Arabic course is awful
The Arabic course not only is not good but actually it is AWFUL and I'll tell you why.
Duolingo focused too much on the Arabic script and pronunciation. it should focus more on Language structure and new words.
Someone who is trying to learn Arabic using Duolingo have to spend 60 percent of the time on learning sounds and pronunciation and scripts. and I'm telling you, it is boring! you have to do really ridiculous exercises over and over again just to learn "how Duolingo use English to write Arabic!! "
And one more thing to assure you that this course has nothing to teach you (or at least not enough): I finished Arabic course easily (got through all checkpoints) , simply because I know some primary words and know how to pronounce Arabic words!
Make something like French course. It's Perfect. Or like Chinese. i'm sure that Arabic Script isn't harder then Chinese!
I understand it would be discouraging for new learners but I really wish they had put all the writing lessons at the very beggining so people who can already read could just skip them. Hopefully the future modules won't have any.
I actually think it is rather good. I have lived and worked in an Arabic speaking countries for a long time. Many years ago I taught myself the script and I could communicate on a very basic level. In recent years having moved to a more developed Arabic speaking country, much to my shame, my Arabic has shrunk to a few stock phrases and I have forgotten the script. I have found that the approach taken on the duolingo course has helped me to retrieve some of the Arabic I had forgotten and I'm sure in the long run it will improve it. I've only been studying it for a week, so it is early days, but so far, I am impressed.
I was sure that they are going to add new skills soon, but they got the Arabic course out of beta so early. I know that they will probably add skills anyway, but I really don't like the fact that they felt confident enough in the course to take it out of the Beta. I am, however, still thankful to the contributors.
I agree with you. But for a beginner who knows nothing about Arabic sounds a time of 3 to 6 months is logical to learn how to read and write and pronounce Arabic sounds. This tree is in beta and since it not full it should be longer and more difficult than the German tree for instance, considering grammar and declension system etc. Arabic is a difficult language including the sounds and the alphabet for sure. I guess one of the most difficult ones.
I agree with you. Before I started the Arabic course I didn't know anything about Arabic and the repeating things over and over again helps.
It suits me just fine as it is. When I started the Arabic course my objective was only to learn the script and not to learn the language. All the language I have learnt so far is a bonus. If I wanted to learn the language in detail I would probably look for other materials to help, but this course suits my needs very well.
Yes, as I keep on saying this tree is a trainwreck. I already gave it up. Also, the creators of the course are mysteriously missing, which doesn't give me hope that the course will ever be improved.
I totally agree. You don’t actually learn any words for a ridiculously long time in each lesson - alphabet recognition just repeats and repeats. It’s crap.
I completely agree. I had been very excited for the Arabic course to be released and I was rather disappointed when it finally came out, as by that point I already knew the script and a lot of basic vocabulary. I'm sure they'll improve it a lot though in future course updates.
I hope so. My real intention was to let Duolingo know that Arabic course is not good and try to do better, and of course share my experiences with others.
"The Arabic course not only is not good but actually it is AWFUL"
Not only do I not agree, I don't see that you've justified either using the word 'awful' or capitalizing it.
Fair enough. sorry 'bout that! maybe I just expect much more from Duolingo.
Honestly, I was happy that they finally added Arabic, but I was annoying to go over learning the alphabet when I already knew it. They should have done what they've already done in the Hebrew lessons
I kinda agree, from the first 2 chapters I tryed. There are some easy things that would improve it a lot from my point of view. Starting with the alphabet chapter, it assumes that you are not yet familiar with the new letters. Therefore I think it would make sense to use a larger font for the Arabic words, that you are supposed to translate into English. The task translate is bold, black and in larger letters while the still unfamiliar words to be translated, are not bold, smaller font, orange and in the corner. This could e.g. be optimized fairly easy.
I agree, I for one speak Arabic and I tried this to see how well it is, trust me, it's terrible. I speak 5 different dialects and this doesn't help with people learning more than one type.
I completely agree. I'm passionate about learning Arabic and was super excited for its release on Duolingo, but so far it's just been too boring to motivate me. I learned more about pronounciation and writing the alphabet from a short YouTube video. For now, I'm learning elsewhere.
Can you share where you are studying? I have about a month to go to finish duolingo and I am looking for the next place...
I agree with you. As I think, just exchange the language of the English course for Arabic speaker to replace this one will be even better
What's your native language pal? It seems you don't even know the difference between "then" and "than".
"oh, it's awful"
"I'm telling you, it is boring!"
You sound like a typical spoiled millennial. hahaha
You really shouldn't be using mistakes someone makes in a language that isn't their native one as justification for their point being incorrect, especially not on this website. Not speaking perfect English doesn't make you stupid, and "then" and "than" can sound VERY similar to speakers of many other languages so that's really not a good example of a mistake worth using as an example of how good someone's English is (I'm a native speaker and I could easily make that mistake by accident just by pressing the wrong key and not noticing). Also "you sound like a typical spoiled millennial"? Really not doing yourself any credit there bud.
You really shouldn't be using mistakes someone makes in a language that isn't their native one as justification for their point being incorrect,
Congratulations, you just fired a bunch of words from a false perspective. We simply don't know who people are here, that's why I have asked to OP what was his native language... if he was a native English speaker I was just trying to show his basic mistake to him so he could perhaps rethink that he should be less harsh on the work of others that are trying to spread the knowledge here.
So all your speech on how I shouldn't "using people's basic mistakes to make less of their opinions" is coming from a wrong interpretation by your side.
Also "you sound like a typical spoiled millennial"? Really not doing yourself any credit there bud.
Oh yeah, because what give credit to people is to be an ungrateful being that go around using "AWFUL" and "BOOOORING" like you're a 12 years old kid with a bad temper (which is the case of at least 50% of Western millennial personalities unfortunately).
guess what? I'm not western :) and you must be a typical spoiled millennial to categorize people by their living place :) take care pal
"that's why I have asked to OP what was his native language..."
"So all your speech on how"
"Oh yeah, because what give credit to people is to be an ungrateful being "
What's your native language pal? It seems you don't even know how to make basic grammatical constructions.
hahaha . I'm OK with My English, But Maybe it's not good enough for you. My bad. by the way my native language is Persian. and just for you to know, Persian script is similar to Arabic's. And I've been through Duolingo Arabic course and eventually I decided to use another source for Arabic! it's for you to decide now.
I think For Arabic "Rosetta Stone" and "Pimsleur" have good structures. Pimsleur Arabic has different sets for different accents. One small thing that bothers me about Rosetta Stone is their app menus and animations. animations (fade out effects and transitions) are really slow. if you're not familiar with these sources, I can explain more.
I would love to hear more recommendations for after duolingo arabic. I'm getting close to finishing and looking for ideas.
I think Pimsleur would be a good choice for after Duolingo. There are 30 minutes podcasts. It starts with primary words and small sentences and useful dialogues. also, it contains a reading booklet and after each lesson, the speaker will read the related section from the booklet (except the few first lessons). you can skip reading practice if you want to.
"and just for you to know, Persian script is similar to Arabic's"
Good for you, but it's definitely not the case for Western languages, so perhaps you should think lets egoistically only using your own perspective and think about how useful the content of the course could be to others instead of going around calling things awful?! It's for you to decide now. : )
Calm down man. we're not at war or something :) - I explained everything in the main post and I don't think that I owe you something for posting my opinion (Explained!) and thanks for your perspective :)
Thanks buddy. I really appreciate your words. the fact is that English is the World language and everyone should know it cause you will need it no matter what you’re doing, but you don’t have to know Persian :) . Maybe that’s the reason. (of course there are a lot of great unique stuff in Persian and that could be a good reason for you to learn Persian)
I don't think that I owe you something for posting my opinion
Don't worry, I'm not like you that think that people that offer me a free service owe me stuff because they're doing it "too boring" or "awfully". haha
and thanks for your perspective :)
Sure, have a nice weekend!