https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMHMD

Arabic course is awful

The Arabic course not only is not good but actually it is AWFUL and I'll tell you why.

Duolingo focused too much on the Arabic script and pronunciation. it should focus more on Language structure and new words.

Someone who is trying to learn Arabic using Duolingo have to spend 60 percent of the time on learning sounds and pronunciation and scripts. and I'm telling you, it is boring! you have to do really ridiculous exercises over and over again just to learn "how Duolingo use English to write Arabic!! "

And one more thing to assure you that this course has nothing to teach you (or at least not enough): I finished Arabic course easily (got through all checkpoints) , simply because I know some primary words and know how to pronounce Arabic words!

Make something like French course. It's Perfect. Or like Chinese. i'm sure that Arabic Script isn't harder then Chinese!

September 13, 2019

40 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ZidaneLeBG

I understand it would be discouraging for new learners but I really wish they had put all the writing lessons at the very beggining so people who can already read could just skip them. Hopefully the future modules won't have any.

September 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMHMD

Totally agree.

September 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nicholas195170

I actually think it is rather good. I have lived and worked in an Arabic speaking countries for a long time. Many years ago I taught myself the script and I could communicate on a very basic level. In recent years having moved to a more developed Arabic speaking country, much to my shame, my Arabic has shrunk to a few stock phrases and I have forgotten the script. I have found that the approach taken on the duolingo course has helped me to retrieve some of the Arabic I had forgotten and I'm sure in the long run it will improve it. I've only been studying it for a week, so it is early days, but so far, I am impressed.

September 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NaericaS

I was sure that they are going to add new skills soon, but they got the Arabic course out of beta so early. I know that they will probably add skills anyway, but I really don't like the fact that they felt confident enough in the course to take it out of the Beta. I am, however, still thankful to the contributors.

September 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Stergi3

I agree with you. But for a beginner who knows nothing about Arabic sounds a time of 3 to 6 months is logical to learn how to read and write and pronounce Arabic sounds. This tree is in beta and since it not full it should be longer and more difficult than the German tree for instance, considering grammar and declension system etc. Arabic is a difficult language including the sounds and the alphabet for sure. I guess one of the most difficult ones.

September 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MrP1zza

I agree with you. Before I started the Arabic course I didn't know anything about Arabic and the repeating things over and over again helps.

September 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IainBowie1

It suits me just fine as it is. When I started the Arabic course my objective was only to learn the script and not to learn the language. All the language I have learnt so far is a bonus. If I wanted to learn the language in detail I would probably look for other materials to help, but this course suits my needs very well.

September 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/YPSILONZ

Yes, as I keep on saying this tree is a trainwreck. I already gave it up. Also, the creators of the course are mysteriously missing, which doesn't give me hope that the course will ever be improved.

September 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caity393042

I totally agree. You don’t actually learn any words for a ridiculously long time in each lesson - alphabet recognition just repeats and repeats. It’s crap.

September 24, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JackHorne

I completely agree. I had been very excited for the Arabic course to be released and I was rather disappointed when it finally came out, as by that point I already knew the script and a lot of basic vocabulary. I'm sure they'll improve it a lot though in future course updates.

September 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMHMD

I hope so. My real intention was to let Duolingo know that Arabic course is not good and try to do better, and of course share my experiences with others.

September 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alex112823

"The Arabic course not only is not good but actually it is AWFUL"

Not only do I not agree, I don't see that you've justified either using the word 'awful' or capitalizing it.

September 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMHMD

Fair enough. sorry 'bout that! maybe I just expect much more from Duolingo.

September 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alex112823

Nothing wrong with that :)

September 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TysonSchoe1

Honestly, I was happy that they finally added Arabic, but I was annoying to go over learning the alphabet when I already knew it. They should have done what they've already done in the Hebrew lessons

September 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TysonSchoe1

But it is good for beginners

September 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Steffi558104

I kinda agree, from the first 2 chapters I tryed. There are some easy things that would improve it a lot from my point of view. Starting with the alphabet chapter, it assumes that you are not yet familiar with the new letters. Therefore I think it would make sense to use a larger font for the Arabic words, that you are supposed to translate into English. The task translate is bold, black and in larger letters while the still unfamiliar words to be translated, are not bold, smaller font, orange and in the corner. This could e.g. be optimized fairly easy.

September 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/1GermanJoe

I agree, I for one speak Arabic and I tried this to see how well it is, trust me, it's terrible. I speak 5 different dialects and this doesn't help with people learning more than one type.

September 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EstherElli6

Wow.

September 24, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/takoniku

I completely agree. I'm passionate about learning Arabic and was super excited for its release on Duolingo, but so far it's just been too boring to motivate me. I learned more about pronounciation and writing the alphabet from a short YouTube video. For now, I'm learning elsewhere.

September 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wendya1

Can you share where you are studying? I have about a month to go to finish duolingo and I am looking for the next place...

September 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/voillyied8122

I agree with you. As I think, just exchange the language of the English course for Arabic speaker to replace this one will be even better

October 10, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MacBasse

What's your native language pal? It seems you don't even know the difference between "then" and "than".

"oh, it's awful"

"I'm telling you, it is boring!"

You sound like a typical spoiled millennial. hahaha

September 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JackHorne

You really shouldn't be using mistakes someone makes in a language that isn't their native one as justification for their point being incorrect, especially not on this website. Not speaking perfect English doesn't make you stupid, and "then" and "than" can sound VERY similar to speakers of many other languages so that's really not a good example of a mistake worth using as an example of how good someone's English is (I'm a native speaker and I could easily make that mistake by accident just by pressing the wrong key and not noticing). Also "you sound like a typical spoiled millennial"? Really not doing yourself any credit there bud.

September 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MacBasse

You really shouldn't be using mistakes someone makes in a language that isn't their native one as justification for their point being incorrect,

Congratulations, you just fired a bunch of words from a false perspective. We simply don't know who people are here, that's why I have asked to OP what was his native language... if he was a native English speaker I was just trying to show his basic mistake to him so he could perhaps rethink that he should be less harsh on the work of others that are trying to spread the knowledge here.
So all your speech on how I shouldn't "using people's basic mistakes to make less of their opinions" is coming from a wrong interpretation by your side.

Also "you sound like a typical spoiled millennial"? Really not doing yourself any credit there bud.

Oh yeah, because what give credit to people is to be an ungrateful being that go around using "AWFUL" and "BOOOORING" like you're a 12 years old kid with a bad temper (which is the case of at least 50% of Western millennial personalities unfortunately).

September 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMHMD

guess what? I'm not western :) and you must be a typical spoiled millennial to categorize people by their living place :) take care pal

September 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ilias339

"that's why I have asked to OP what was his native language..."

"So all your speech on how"

"Oh yeah, because what give credit to people is to be an ungrateful being "

What's your native language pal? It seems you don't even know how to make basic grammatical constructions.

September 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMHMD

hahaha . I'm OK with My English, But Maybe it's not good enough for you. My bad. by the way my native language is Persian. and just for you to know, Persian script is similar to Arabic's. And I've been through Duolingo Arabic course and eventually I decided to use another source for Arabic! it's for you to decide now.

September 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MrP1zza

What source did you decide to use to learn Arabic?

September 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMHMD

I think For Arabic "Rosetta Stone" and "Pimsleur" have good structures. Pimsleur Arabic has different sets for different accents. One small thing that bothers me about Rosetta Stone is their app menus and animations. animations (fade out effects and transitions) are really slow. if you're not familiar with these sources, I can explain more.

September 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wendya1

I would love to hear more recommendations for after duolingo arabic. I'm getting close to finishing and looking for ideas.

September 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMHMD

I think Pimsleur would be a good choice for after Duolingo. There are 30 minutes podcasts. It starts with primary words and small sentences and useful dialogues. also, it contains a reading booklet and after each lesson, the speaker will read the related section from the booklet (except the few first lessons). you can skip reading practice if you want to.

September 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMHMD

you can also give Rosetta Stone a try. it has a limited free trial.

September 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MacBasse

"and just for you to know, Persian script is similar to Arabic's"

Good for you, but it's definitely not the case for Western languages, so perhaps you should think lets egoistically only using your own perspective and think about how useful the content of the course could be to others instead of going around calling things awful?! It's for you to decide now. : )

September 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMHMD

Calm down man. we're not at war or something :) - I explained everything in the main post and I don't think that I owe you something for posting my opinion (Explained!) and thanks for your perspective :)

September 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EnlightenmentV4

Ignore’m man. Your English is great for someone who isn’t a native and doubly so for someone who natively speaks a language like Persian which is so different from English. Wish I could speak Persian like you speak English.

September 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMHMD

Thanks buddy. I really appreciate your words. the fact is that English is the World language and everyone should know it cause you will need it no matter what you’re doing, but you don’t have to know Persian :) . Maybe that’s the reason. (of course there are a lot of great unique stuff in Persian and that could be a good reason for you to learn Persian)

September 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MacBasse

I don't think that I owe you something for posting my opinion

Don't worry, I'm not like you that think that people that offer me a free service owe me stuff because they're doing it "too boring" or "awfully". haha

and thanks for your perspective :)

Sure, have a nice weekend!

September 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlexLehn

Hell yes, let's thank Facebook for their free service, too...

September 14, 2019
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