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Croatian For English Speakers

As the title says...

What do you guys think of doing a Croatian for English speakers? Anyone here willing to make it?

June 22, 2014



I want to learn Croatian badly! I know it's silly to say, but I saw Croatia on the Amazing Race years and years ago, and ever since then, I've been obsessed!


That is not silly to say. A language is like a beautiful woman, and she can draw you in many different ways. On a deep level, you are meant to learn Croatian, and you will.


Thank you for saying that. I have also felt silly for learning and wanting to learn so-called "random" languages, that, when I get that pull, I know I just have to find out more, and start to learn at least a little of the language which fascinates me. I can tell which ones I am "meant to" look into, and which ones hold no appeal at the time, even though they would be more useful or practical to learn. Glad all this makes sense to someone else.


I thought about applying, but searching through some old discussions I found posts from people who had applied 8 months ago (when the Incubator was first launched) - I looked up their later posts and found that after all these months they never received any kind of reply. Not even a "No, thanks." Very discouraging. :/


The application process on Duolingo is a big problem. It pushes away enthusiastic, talented people who could otherwise be contributing to the platform.


I actually did receive a reply saying that they'll contact me when they'll need native speakers for the course.


People, feel free to up-vote Croatian here on this language poll
https://www.duolingo.com/comment/3451916 If you've already done it, awesome.


I could help, I am Croatian! :)


I'm interested. My boyfriend's family are from a Croatian background and some of his family members are more confident in Croatian than English - I'd be interested with Croatian for English speakers with the knowledge it maybe become a reverse course in the future. I've actually been silently waiting for it to slowly become added to the incubator one day... So yeah! Definitely would be interested!


Although it wouldn't have the same popularity as other languages, I personally believe it would be really constructive. I really like Croatian (My grandfather was croatian). So here you have another person interested in it. Keep trying to create Croatian for English speakers!


So true! Things don't have to be popular in order to be valuable. I have a Basic Croatian lessons book from the seventies that is falling apart, but I keep its binding and pages in plastic bag. It's a neat little book, full of the raw grammar that you don't see anymore with the colorful new books that are out today. I got a Croatian dictionary at a white elephant Christmas party once. I would love to see a Croatian course and imagine it's a very helpful language to learn in order to study Russian!


Croatia is a very popular touristic destination nowadays,i'd imagine there is a growing interest to at least master the basics


Duo please introduce this


I hope they do. I've been waiting for years :/


Seeing the amount of people here, I think Croatian has potential to be slightly more popular then Romanian. And there isn't many free sources for Croatian as with a couple of the other languages here; That might bring in a few learners


Dunno if anyone of the staff would read this, but come on, guys - I mean, I'm not acquainted with the applications quality, but I seriously doubt that there aren't any capable people on the list. Also, there's a Klingon course in the preparatory phase and an Esperanto one in Beta, and that's fine, but why not then to allow those who are motivated to learn a language of a country one could visit and talk to the native speakers? Didn't mean to put on any pressure; it's just bewildering in a way.


That's exactly what I thought when I saw that they have multiple fictional languages, but lack some basic popular, actually spoken languages.


Ok, something I found that may intrest you guys. This dude's name is Grgo Petrov, he is on youtube and explains Croatian grammar cases very well.




I was thinking to create simulation of some categories from Duolingo what it would look like if there was Croatian. Though you all must have noticed that it's not going to be so easy to set all the rules from the beginning like for languages with much simpler grammar. I'd like to see what other Slavic language courses look like, if there's any possibility.


especially when you consider palatalization, iotation, sibilarization, fleeting A, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbo-Croatian_phonology#Morphophonemic_alternations


I am Croatian native speaker and in any time if you decide to make Croatian course for learning then let me know because I would love to contribute :D I have friends in Ireland that are interested in learning Croatian.


I'm Croatian and I have a friend who would really like to learn it. :) I was thinking of making the course myself as I didn't see it listed on Duolingo website, and now I found this discussion. I will apply on the Incubator, maybe I'll have some luck. I'm happy to see that there are so many people wanting to learn Croatian :D And that there are other Croatians interested in making the course alive! I'm sure we can do it together! :)


I am willing to help. Croatian is my native language.


With the people here who know it, I know I'm interested in learning it. :)


any progress? As native speaker I would also like to contribute!


I applied as well, even willing to admin. We'll just have to wait and see


vrijeme je da se krene, da citiramo Bareta


i prošlo 5 godina...


I would also add my interest! I really hope this gets going!


I have applied to help making Croatian course! :) No news so far.


Any updates yet?


I also applied but nothing so far


I would love to help you guys. I am Croatian, but I've been living in Norway past 10 months. I have Norwegian girlfriend and she would love to learn it, also I know plenty of foreigners who own a vacation house, but they don't speak any Croatian, due to poor courses.


I keep checking all the time to see if croation is added, please make a course. My parents come from a place in Italy that speaks a very old dialect of croation which I also speak, I would really like to be able to learn the current croation spoken as our languages are very similar. Thanks

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    I would recommend you to check "Easy Croatian" which is a very good blog that introduces Croatian to a pretty good degree. It is pedagogical and a good place to start :



    Thank you. Great website


    Jesi li naučio?


    I'm also willing to help making it.


    This discussion is not going anywhere. If you are a native speaker, like me, please apply for the incubator. :)


    I am very very intrested in learning Croatia. I cant describe how badly I wanna learn it. I became a member on duolingo just to learn Croatian but I cant chose the language :( PLEASE can someone make this happen? This thread have been up for 2 years, there are plenty of interest from the user but yet there is no Croatian Course? Why? Can someone please tell me what the admins have said about it? How can I know if there will be a croatian course in the nera future? if there will not be one in the nearest week or so then I will unsubscribe to this site and start searching for another site with a croatian course. But the thing is its very hard to find one.


    I would definitely be intesrested. Učim hrvatski!


    I jesi li uspio?


    I think it could be an interesting course, but would it start out with English for Croatian speakers? I know Irish, Danish and Swedish didn't start that way, but apparently there isn't demand for the reverse of those courses (there's definitely no demand for EngGa course). Would there be more immediate demand for a course teaching English?


    It probably would, seeing as Czech and Ukrainian are doing it that way... Personally, I'd rather see it start with Croatian for English speakers.
    I feel like there would be a lot more interest in that considering the population of Croatia, and the fact that English is an obligatory subject at school. There can't be that many people desperate to learn English through this app...
    And while I don't know exactly what goes into creating the whole course, I get the impression that creating a reverse course would be much easier if Croatian for English was done first..


    I would think an English course for Croatian would be easier because that way, the team would not have to create their own tree and they could just use the template given to them :) I think many people would find it very surprising how little two courses with the same language pair have in common. I have talked a lot with the Dutch team and they have said that having a reverse course already finished helped very little.


    Good point there. Seeing as the English is obligatory in school, kids start to learn it as soon as in kindergarten. Another thing is that it's the language of today, rather you talk about surfing the internet, watching TV or listening to music. English is the language of pop-culture and we're constantly in touch with it. Croatian is not that popular (yet) and I think many people would benefit from the course.


    And we have language schools on every corner. I've got, like, three of them withing a 5 minute walk from my home. Most people who don't speak English are the older generation that had things like French and Russian at school, but considering their age, if they were serious about learning the language, they would probably look for real language courses at one of those schools.


    Croatians generally speak English well,i don't there's a big interest in that.We do learn through school from first grade now i think


    Older people could still use it


    Would love to see this. Moving to Croatia in April possibly.


    Volim Hrvatski!!!!! :)


    I'm making a new discussion, I'm going to try to get moderators and admin's attention, if you want show support on the new discussion, lets win this thing!


    link to the new one here!


    Im from Crioatia and I would LOVE to see a cratian course happen. Lots of love fron Zadar (´ε` )♡


    I would be glad to contribute in making it :) I think there are things in croatian culture that you simply have to understand the language to understand it compleatly, and think duolingo is a great way to bring our language and culture closer to other people


    Please can we make this happen !



    Hi, native Croatian here! The idea sounds really great to me. You can count on me, and if you need any help, feel free to ask :)


    Hello Idah, thanks for your interest..

    I am an American. I speak a little Croatian. I think we need someone to take the lead on this, a native speaker, to contact the Duolingo folks..

    => Would you be willing to get the course started? Croatian, for English speakers.

    You do it at the incubator site: https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply

    How many native speakers do have at this point? I think it would be best to have native speaker take the initiative here.



    Hello Glenn, I did it already 2-3 weeks ago and I didn't receive any response from Duolingo so I think I should do it again.. And yes, I totally agree with you that it's the best that some native speaker take the initiative!

    Greetings, Ida :)


    Hi, I'm a native Croatian speaker as well and would like to help :D


    Tajana, I appreciate your willingness to help.

    Could you take the initiative to apply for a Croatian course? If you did that, we could get a small team of people to contribute. I would also contribute, although my knowledge is not great. My brother Dana, although American is actually fluent in Croatian. He might contribute..

    We do need someone to "apply" to set up a Croatian course, at this url: : https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply



    Hi Glenn, I've just applied for the Croatian course. I don't think I would be able to be a moderator though, I don't think I would have enough time.



    Thanks.. I appreciate it. Maybe we can also get some other native speakers involved.



    I just returned from a week in Croatia, and completely fell in love! Already making plans on going back next year, and would love to be able to holiday there without having to resort to English or German all the time. I don't mind, but not a lot of people I met there spoke either. Was surprised to see there's no course yet, hope it'll be fine soon. Can't wait to start learning! Even bought two English-Croatian dictionary/phrase books while I was there.


    That would be great!


    I would be interested in a Croatian language course.


    I am native Croatian speaker, and if the course sets off, I would gladly help to make it happen.


    Please apply to incubator. They are waiting for enough people to help with it.


    Having a Croatian course would be amazing! I am half Croatian and this course will give me extra source of me being taught after my mom teaching me. Duolingo and creators please make this happen i would appreciate it so much and everyone liking and commenting will love it! I could contribute on some parts!


    I get notifications almost every day now, when is it finally possible for Duolingo to make this course? I mean, the interest must be really high!


    Let's get this party started. Right?


    Where is this course already!? Discussion is going on for ages. I have applied multiple time to do the course myself in the past 6 years and got no answer whatsoever. Duolingo, where are you?


    That's a very generous offer. We are also all very frustrated now with the lack of response from Duolingo on this subject. Please can we hear from you one way or the other. I just have a bad feeling about the fact that there are no former Yugoslavian or southern slavic courses available here, and I fear the reason is political somehow. I don't mean to sound paranoid, but we would very much like to hear something, at all. Duolingo would be the most user friendly way of learning Croatian. I have listened to it on Glossika, and it is beauuuutiful!!


    That would be cool. :) I couldn't make it because I'm not fluent in Croatian, though.


    Same situation with me. If I were fluent I would contribute.


    If I had good enough Croatian I would apply, but my croatian is not good enough yet.


    Would you be interested in taking the Croatian course?


    Yes, I would. It would give me vocabulary in the main area that I lack -- everyday objects.


    Just applied for the Croatian course and I already see that a lot of people have applied too but they didn't get any feedback. Makes me sad yet I hope that that will change


    I would be very interested in Croatian for English speakers I am Australian and I know many Australians who would want to learn due to their families in Croatia!!


    i am from croatia and i can help


    Any news on getting Croatian on here?




    there are some news about the Croatian course?


    Well, I'd be willing to do it. I have a friend who teaches Croatian who'd be willing to co-operate. But then again, I don't know if it's gonna work out that well.


    What do you mean? All tools to learn will be welcome! Not matter if they are perfect or not at the beginning, always can be improved. And, of course, you will have a lot of beta testers to give you inputs and suggestions. I will do my best to collaborate this way.


    IDK, maybe it happens. I too, am busy at the moment, but I'll really think hard about contributing, i.e. if I get approved to start making the course.


    I have to correct you, Euterpa, "moram ići/moram da idem" as we in Serbia, well at least in Belgrade, where I live, use both of them equally without any preference for either of them.

    Furthermore, I've been to Croatia many times and I never had a single one "misunderstanding" or whatsoever, doesn't matter if I was in Zagreb, Rijeka or Šibenik and yes, "Serbian language" made a lots of sense to them. :) So your second argument falls short of a reason, too.

    To put it in a different perspective, more independent, a Belgium friend of mine after having graduated in serbo-croatistics at university in Bruxelles had left for Montenegro as a part of his postgraduate studies. He was offered by his university to do it in Novi Sad or Kragujevac (cities in Serbia) or Nikšić (a city in Montenegro) after he opted for the third option. After having mastered it there for one year, at the Montenegrin university, he went to travel all around ex-Yugoslavia. He told me a story of a Croatian guy who had lauded his "perfect Croatian" after which my friend thanked him saying that he "learned it in Montenegro". He knew that "a lots of bad things happened in ex-Yugoslavia", as foreigners like to put it, but he also added that he never expected for people to be so heavily political, especially in Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro and Serbia.

    The only true confusion that may arise is making choice of learning it either on latin or cyrillic, but then again, with all the programing possibilities we have today, that shouldn't pose a big problem. I am sorry and sometimes truly embarrassed when I realize how much we, in ex-Yugoslavia, are political and brainwashed and all of it to our own damage.

    I see no reason why should anyone, who is of healthy mind and spirit, hate "Serbo-Croatian"? I met a lots of people who doesn't like French because of its heavy grammar full of exceptions and complicated pronunciation, but I never met a single one person who doesn't like it because French spoken in Quebec or in Alsace is different to standard one taught worldwide. You either have an affinity for a certain language or not.


    I don't hate Serbo-Croatian, I've never said that. I said that it would be complicated to learn. It's not just a matter of script. For example, you are mentioning Belgrade. Now, notice how in Serbian, it is called "Beograd". Now, that is a matter of a sound change that happens, it's called "L-vocalization". It means that l becomes o, in some situations. Serbians vocalize "l" when they want to say "white". White city = beo grad, Beograd. Croatians have l-vocalization, but they don't vocalize the word "white". So, while in Serbian it is "beo grad", even in Croatian ekavian it is "beli grad". "L" stays, no vocalization. It's easy to Croatians and Serbians to know which rule belongs to which language, but I think if foreigners are to learn these rules simultaneously, they will speak some weird mix of Serbian and Croatian. Every learner will speak it differently, depending on which rule he remembered or chose to remember for the same thing. :D

    And that was my main point, I didn't say anything about hating or not hating Serbo-Croatian. But while we're at it, I know that the issue is political. But while everyone else is also aware that the issue is political, they look at it the wrong way. Yes, modern Croatian and modern Serbian are very much alike. But, we don't have Croatian as a separate language because we are independent so we want to have our own language to distance ourselves from Yugoslav period. Everyone is talking about modern era and 1990s when talking about Croatian/Serbian/Serbo-Croatian, but the issue is old several centuries. Croatian and Serbian were separate languages for a long time, Croatian was a language long before any political connection with Serbians and Serbian language. But - politicians eventually wanted the two languages to be one, to make them more 'alike'. Old Croatian was in fact more similar to modern Slovenian than it was to Serbian. Reforms had been done. And reforms had been done because of politics. Politics didn't separate the two languages, it had been trying to unite them since 19th century for the sake of "Yugoslavia" in whatever form it appeared throughout history. In 19th century, they were actually tries to forbid, erase from dictionaries every difference Croatian had comparing to Serbian. It didn't fit their idea of unity, they were seeing different languages as something that separates nations. Croatian as we have it now is a result of these efforts to minimize the differences. So Croatian language has been for a long time a victim of some ideology. I'm not brainwashed, it's history. But after we got our independence, changes have been made to return some Croatian words, put them in use again instead of Serbian words.

    Plus, there is a difference between what is standard and what is in use. If we are thinking about what is in use, then we might as well say that Slovenian is also not a separate language, because there are people in Croatia that speak more like Slovenians.

    Here is an example when Serbians don't make any sense to us: "Mrzi me da idem..." That sentence means absolutely nothing in Croatian while Serbians use it to say they don't feel like going somewhere.


    Let me just begin by correcting you, I never even indirectly implied that you “hate” Serbo-Croatian. I was merely wondering why would anyone “hate” any language, as you put it.

    “Beli grad” is a very poetic way to call Beograd and in Serbia, as well as elsewhere, people say it whenever they want to express their positive sentiments towards the city. Croatian Wikipedia doesn’t even mention anything close to “beli grad”?? Are you sure you didn’t take it from some epic or something?

    While I really can’t go into discussion you proposed, as it is the subject that is quiet murky to me, as well as many other things when it comes to Balkans and its traditions and politics, I am having a problem to think of single one relevant linguist, both Yugoslavian and international, supporting the theory you brought up which, then again, looks more of a speculation than it is having a ground in scientific facts. What is the most important, I think, is that people communicate and our people have been communicating for many, many centuries without giving too much thought if its Serbian or Croatian enough. Sure enough, there are bunch of dialects to be found in both countries, one of them for example, being found in the east of Serbia where many things “don’t make sense” to me either, but you don’t proclaim its a different language just because that there are two different ways to order a coffee. Language is like a living being, it is always developing, dialects enrich them, rather than impoverish.

    Further on, Serbian book publishers are selling a great amount of books printed in Serbian language to Croatian readers that specifically come to Serbia to by them as books in Croatia are 3, sometimes 4 times, more expensive. Ask Geopoetika, for example, where bunch of copies of Erlened Loe and Haruki Murakami go to. To Croatia, of course. Does it say anything to you?

    At most of the universities in Europe and elsewhere there exists only one department for our languages and it is called “serbo-croatistics”, which is no wonder, so why should anyone on ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Earth have a problem to mix Serbian or Croatian dialect in an attempt to learn and to express him/herself in that beautiful language?? I don’t want to even think of how many different English dialects I used, or mixed, just in this message! And in the normal world of tolerance it doesn’t matter if you express yourself like a Canadian, American or Scottish as long as communication flows. Of course, you always have certain nazis everywhere, but I don’t see why they should be considered given that communication with them is never two-way.

    I am signing out from this discussion as it is complete waste of time with broken arguments. I just want to support once again Serbo-Croatian and I hope it will find its way on Duolingo and I am ready to help as much as possible, both in Cyrillic and Latin. Бок/Pozdrav!


    Right on nektarije. Everything euterpa just said was a complete joke. Seriously? Just because Beograd/Belgrad different makes it all a different language. Ok if you say so. I never read anything anywhere where it says they are a different language from a linguistic viewpoint. All that "oh it's two different languages" are all from a biased and purely political viewpoint.


    Like Swedish, Danish and Norwegian.


    Please, check out the comment I just posted regarding the Serbo-Croatian and why I'm against it.

    TL;DR? Sociolinguistics.


    I also applied and sent a request to start the "incubation" process. I'd be more than happy to help with this course, and also have friends who use duolingo who're also very motivated to develop the curse. However, we received no feedback.


    Please apply again.


    I also want Croatian course to be on Duolingo. Lots of people wants it.


    I realise this is an old post, however, I would love to learn Croatian! I used to know it quite well as I had a Croatian friend however she moved away and my Croatian now is almost non existent ):


    Yes, I want to learn Croatian. I am waiting for sooooo long. Duolingo, make this happen soon!


    I am super interested and would love this!

    Unfortunately it seems there are a lot of threads regarding Croatian on here and Reddit but still no course approved.. :(


    That's a great idea! I would be willing to make it, but I don't think I know enough Croatian to create a course. My grandparents are Croatian and my dad is fluent in Croatian. I feel so left out because everyone in my family knows Croatian!!!!!


    I would love a Croatian for English Speakers course!! My mom's parents immigrated from Croatia and I've very interested in learning their language! Any word from Duolingo, as I see this post was created 4 years ago?


    Drops and Clozemaster have Croatian


    I would still love to learn Croatian. Are not there any Croatians on Duolingo who would like to create one?i would highly appreciate it because I really love Duolingo and I can’t find any good learning resources to learn Croatian like I found them on other Duolingo courses.

    Cˋmon!!!! :)


    There are but it is up to Duolingo to allow us


    I'd love to learn the language, I'm already trying using other not to be mentioned sites, but Duolingo is incredibly good at getting the basics learned. I'd for sure pick it up if it became an option!


    This is ridiculous. Duolingo has 2 fictional languages, but doesn’t have Croatian! How can that be? I took the Italian course and it was amazing. I’d love to learn Croatian, being that there are no good Croatian courses available on the internet. I think adding Croatian would seriously attract a lot of people.


    We are fighting for a Croatian course for 4 years, and Duo just doesn't seem to understand that everyone is requesting it. We tried contacting them in every possible way, but we aren't making any progress. Duo probably will make a Croatian course and it's just a matter of time, but it's possible that we will have to wait very long to make that happen. Thank you for your support and we just want to let you know that you are completely right about that.


    Im a native Croatian and i would like to see Croatian on duolingo. I'm also looking for a language buddy as i am studying German and Norwegian so if anyone from Norway or Germany wants to exchange language knowledge hit me up!


    Hey! My Croatian knowledge almost equals 0 haha by I am learning step by step. I could help you with German :)


    Drops has Croatian, also check out Clozemaster


    Please make this happen!!


    I've spent 3 months in Croatia this summer, and I've spent some of the time learning basic conversational skills and phrases. It's hard to self-teach a language, so it would be amazing to learn more efficiently from a platform such as Duolingo - writing from Hrvatski to Engleski, vice versa, listening, and speaking!

    There are a tonne of people from different countries visiting here throughout the year, so it would be great to see somewhere where everyone can breach the language barrier before visiting, learn a life skill, and contribute to web translation!

    Molim te Duolingo, molim te!


    My wife is Croatian and willing to make major contributions to the course.


    My boyfriend is part Croatian and hes always saying little things to me that he wont translate. I'd love to know what they are. Please this would be great!


    Maybe you don't want to know what he's saying! :)


    I know he says Slatka which means cute or sweet.


    I want to learn Croatian! I work directly with a lot of Croatians and it would be so helpful to speak at least some of the language for when I visit.


    Where is the Croatian course?? I am waiting for 3 years now!! Come on Duolingo!!


    DuoLingo, please look into starting Croatian! A course on here would be really great, so far I'm using a textbook but there aren't many and they are quite limited, hopefully there seems to be a lot of interest so I'll keep an eye out for a new course :)


    Hi. I actually have the same idea! A Croatian course would be perfect!


    I would love to see this added as a language! I'm sure there is a ton of interest, and enough native speakers that would be willing to help contribute.


    I am very interested in a Croatian course, in fact I stopped using duolingo because there was no Croatian. There are very poor resources to learn it elsewhere online so it would be very much appreciated! :)


    It is already more than year and noone called or answerd for course and i was like 1 week after wondering why no news so i amde new acc and tried to find even how to call myself to go there to enter clue on my otehrs acc,but nothing...


    Been waiting forever for this course! Please do approve and make it.


    If you want to make this happen, do the following: 1. give this thread a lingot or 10 or a 100 2. vote up this thread 3. write a comment in the thread 4. go here: https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply scroll to the bottom of the languages, and pick "Enter Other" and enter Croatian. Then write a passionate plea as to why Croatian should be included and how awesome your contributions will be. Thanks!


    El croata pa' cuando @Duolingo


    Please add this course. I would love to take it!


    I am very interested, I lived there for a year and I graduated in Croatian language and literature. Since I moved back to Italy I'm afraid I will forget this beautiful language.. Let's make a course together! :D


    Please someone make it.


    Please make a Croatian language course Duolingo!!!!!!!!!


    yes!!! I'm italian but...I really need learn a croatian!!!!


    same here!I do not need an Italian-Croatian course, I just need it to be Croatian-something!!!! Come on Duolingo!!!!


    It’s been 4 years and we still have not gotten any support from duolingo :( so many people applied and there is obviously interest, but still nothing. Hopefully it happenes soon. Would love to learn the language


    I am still waiting too! Let's get with the program on this, Duolingo.


    Make this course please :)


    As someone who is learning Macedonian with a strong Serbian influence I would love to expand my knowledge and learn some Croatian!


    Macedonian today is really just a cross between Serbian and Bulgarian.Although us Croats can understand them for the most part,it's a bit like with Nordic countries.Maybe Norway vs Sweden would be a good comparison.


    Yes! Croatian!

    Half of my family lives in Croatia. Whenever my dad is on Skype with them, he's always talking to them in Croatian. They always want to talk to me, but they know very little English just like I know very little Croatian. If Duolingo made a Croatian course, I would take it in a heartbeat! I would finally be able to talk to my family over in Croatia!


    I've been wanting to learn Croatian forever and I would be so happy if there was a Croatian course :)


    Here! I want - and need to - learn Croatian very much! :)


    yeah i speak Croatian so i would be willing to help


    I want to learn a few croatian phrases :) There's esperanto,klingon and greek, why not Croatian?


    You will learn a lot more than that when this gets up and running. But yes, considering we have artificial languages on here already...


    Now there’s a challenge I could appreciate, a Slavic language with linguistic purity policies AND a tonal system... Good luck to us all.


    I am interested for making it. Ok - help to make it :)


    yes please, I would love to learn it! I'm learning Croatian right now and it's so hard without Duo...it would really help me


    I really need to learn Croatian and I would be really happy if there was a Duolingo course to help me!


    I'm a native speaker so I can help you with the basics of the language, if you want :)


    I'm willing to make it to, but i'm more interested in vice versa!


    I was just looking for this class! Yes please!!


    i would really like to learn Croatian.


    I would like to help make it.


    If you want to make this happen, do the following: 1. give this thread a lingot or 10 or a 100 2. vote up this thread 3. write a comment in the thread 4. go here: https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply scroll to the bottom of the languages, and pick "Enter Other" and enter Croatian. Then write a passionate plea as to why Croatian should be included and how awesome your contributions will be. Thanks!


    That link currently does not allow one to request languages, it is only an invitation to work on a language they are already developing.


    I sent an application four days ago, I will help.


    Would love for this to be a thing, if it's still under consideration. Been wanting to impress my cousins with a little Serbo-Croat.


    Just wanted to mention that I'd be super happy about a Croatian course - I've spent quite a few summer holidays there but still don't speak more than half a dozen words at most, which is quite frankly embarrassing. Alas, courses that aren't solely text-based are pretty hard to come by. Especially, y'know, for free, as I'm a pretty broke university student.


    please try to do croatian that would be great since im half and i want to know more


    I would love to learn Croatian!


    Bumping this thread. I think Croatian on Duolingo is a must! What else do we need to start this development.


    Ammo ljudi! Hrvatski! :)


    All of the languages of former Yugoslavia NEED to be on duolingo. Actually every language in Europe needs to be on duolingo.


    We're all still waiting. Has ground been broken yet?


    Hope this is still being considered


    I'm super interested in this. I know this is a three year old post, but is there any progress on this?


    I am super interested if this is still an ongoing conversation!


    I am there! Please, yes, let's get Croatian on Duolingo.


    YES would love croatian


    I'd love to learn Croatian. My grandfather was Croatian and I really love the language. Apparently there's a lot of interest in this course and many people have already applied to contribute. Still, it seems that there is no progress. How can we make it happen? Can I subscribe somewhere to express my interest?


    Hey Eleonora, I'm so glad that you would love to learn my language, but as you see Croatian course is not here yet. I was thinking to make an email so interested learners can ask me (native speaker) some questions, frazes, grammar and other. Can you tell me your thought on my idea?

    I hope that Duolingo will some day make Croatian course so you can impress your grandfather :)


    Halo! I would love to learn Croatian and would definitely sign a petition email or something. I have a whole load of Croatian in-laws I would to be able to talk to properly ! Hvala, Cat


    Bok :) I actually made an email a few seconds ago! Send us any kind of question or if you whant we can give you quick Croatian lesson. learn.croatian101@gmail.com

    Uživaj, nema na čemu (Enjoy, no problem)


    Would you be willing to sign up for the incubator so we can get Croatian on Duolingo started?


    Hi ginger.princess, I alredy applyed for many and many times and I think that Croatian course will not be here any time soon. My friend LarisaSab and I sent Duolingo messages on all of their emails, and didn't get any kind of response from them back. I hope that we will get the course someday :)


    I'm a German native speaker and I just can't wait for a Croatian course! :)


    it's time to make croatian 800+ upvotes...

    make serbian too :D


    Since Duolingo still hasn’t tried to make a Croatian course despite 4 years of requests (they have the fictional language from Game of Thrones but not the language of the country it was filmed in...really?) some other good options are:

    • hr4eu.hr is probably the best free option. It’s a Croatian language learning website developed by the Humanities department at the University of Zagreb. There’s no app and you have to register through the website, but so far it’s been the most comprehensive resource I’ve found.

    • easy-croatian.com is another good website that has a lot of information specifically on grammar, pronunciation, etc. It’s like a free textbook online written by someone who lives in Croatia who learned it as their second language, which is helpful, since they breakdown the grammar rules in a way that someone learning it as a second (or third, fourth...) language can understand.

    -Mondly. It’s similar to Duolingo in the way it teaches you, but you have to pay to use it. Also, the grammar seems off in some of the lessons and the lessons become redundant after awhile.

    -Mango Languages. Another paid language learning app but at least you can listen to native speakers have conversations and see the sentences broken down by grammar and definitions. It’s a listen and repeat type of learning so it’s hard to feel like any of the lessons are sinking in.

    -Memrise. This one’s free but I don’t think the Croatian lessons are offered on their app (you have to use their website). The actual lessons seem a bit scattered, too, so it’s difficult to know how your learning is progressing.

    Some other websites that have resources/blogs related to the Croatian language are eurolinguiste.com and chasingthedonkey.com.

    Chasingthedonkey.com has some pretty funny blog posts on Croatian swear words which are worth a look even though they’re more of a travel website than a language learning one.

    I’m not affiliated with any of these websites or apps, they’re just some of the resources I’ve found on my own while waiting desperately for Duolingo to make a Croatian course so I can speak to my relatives.

    Hope they help! Hvala!


    Thank you so much!!! I will check out these sites. I only knew about Mondly and was put off by the expense. I'm going to see if I can also use Anki to set up flash cards for Croatian. It is an interesting learning program and it's free. To use Anki, you have to make your own cards for learning but that is part of the process. Thanks again for sharing all these wonderful resources!


    Great comment! Thank you for sharing these resources.


    Thank you so much / Hvala for the collection of resources and even individual statements for each platform, much appreciated! Testing the hr4eu.hr right now! Hopefully Duolingo will finally find its interest in Slavic languages!


    If anyone speaks Croatian or has Croatian speaking friends or family who would be interested in contributing please apply so we can get this started. Thank you to everyone who’s already applied


    Hvala vama for your support! Don't forget to support other dialects of Naš/Наш too! https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/9547056 https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/3750383


    I am willing to make it.; I am just wondering about the general interest for the course. Few months ago I applied for creating the course but still haven't received any feedback. Hoping that will change.


    I'd also be very interested. I'm 1/4 Croatian, and would love to learn more of the language my grandmother grew up with . She was born and raised in Rijeka.

    DUOLINGO - Make this happen!


    Ya know whats sad, being half Croatian, being born in the capital, being raised there for a good 3 years, being fluent in the language, then going to Canada and forgetting the language completely. I'm pretty ashamed.


    My mom is 100% Croatian but moved to the US during the war and forgot the language too. She becomes fluent when surrounded by the language though so try and it might work for you


    exactly what happened to me


    I have been to Rijeka, Its beautiful XD


    I want to learn Croatian!


    want it so bad!!


    I really hope Croatian course is made!


    I would be SO excited for a Croatian course! This is my favorite language, but sadly there are not a lot of good free resources out there for learning it.


    Hey, I spent a year in Germany and most of my non-German friends were croatians and serbians. Had such a fantastic time and went to Serbia and Croatia to visit. I'm trying to learn Croatian-Serbian but it's difficult to get motivated when I'm not around them! I would really appreciate a duolingo addition..I will learn one way or the other but it would be a great motivator haha. Hvala!


    I would be very interested in learning croatian with duolingo!


    I am interested in learning Croatian. Would be very grateful if you made the course.

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      I can also add here that I am VERY interested. Reading a lot about Croatian right now, but nothing beats the immersion of actually answering questions and learning by doing :)


      Any word on this? I'm not optimistic given that this was written three months ago.

      If you combined with the people applying to make a Serbian course, you could make one Serbo-Croatian course which would spread out the workload more while getting more interest than each course individually. The main problem I see is deciding which alphabet and accent to use.

      As long as you're still willing of course :-)


      No reply received. Sorry. I guess we'll just have to patient for some time. If there won't be any reply, I think that we'll have to get a bit more serious about it. Send more applications - a lot more applications. On a weekly basis - mwahahaha.


      It has been three years. Can you please apply again? Please please please... I would love to learn it.


      The problem is, Croatians write with standard Latin alphabet while Serbs on the other hand, write with Cyrillic. Also, there are lots of words in Serbian 'I' (as a native speaker of Croatian) wouldn't even remotely understand.


      Although mutually intelligible, Croatian and Serbian are two separate languages. Apart from the aplfabet, vocabulary is different as well as the grammar, dispite the similarities. It is something like Czech and Slovak language - similar but not the same.


      I would really love a Croatian course! Hvala!


      I would love to take your course!


      I would LOVE a Croation. My best friend has Croation roots and parents, I would love to speak it!


      I am interested too. Already started learning Croatian from a book, but it is not as handy as Duolingo. After I discovered Duolingo and started learnind Danish, I wish I could continue my Croatian learning via Duolingo too :) I love spending time in Croatia and I wish I could speak the language to better communicate :)


      I am very interested. :)


      I want to learn it super badly!


      please make it ill contribute $1


      It's quite a popular tourist destination for those from northern europe generally, so I could see some appeal to a basic-intermediate level.


      I would LOVE to have Croatian or Slovenian. I am first generation Canadian with both parents deceased, who were Croatian and Slovenian. I would love to be able to converse with my surviving relatives. Last visit was with a dictionary...not so easy :)


      I will leran it\


      You got my full support ...


      100% interested.


      Hey, did you receive feedback? I'd be willing to help with the course if Duolingo lets us start it.


      Hello! Nope, nothing yet. It's still summer and winter is far far away, but maybe, just maybe, they surprise us with a little Christmas gift, a course.


      I'm interested


      There are a L O T of people who want to learn Croatian on the course, including me.


      I am interested. I love your culture, the people, the places, and the language - although I've never made it to seriously study it. (I still have a little bosnian/serbo-croatian -> english dictionary though, since the last time I've been there... :-) )

      So, I'm with you guys,

      Cheers from Greece! ;-)


      I love so much the Balkans and countries from ex Yu, the language is so beautiful, it's like a slavic italian, people is so nice there too, and many things to do


      I would love to learn. I know a little but need to improve my skills.


      Would love Croatian! We have Polish and Russian in the incubator, so why not? We have multiple Germanic tongues and Latin languages. We need multiple Slavic languages in the incubator as well!


      Awesome! So the interest does exist.


      I would sign up! From Montreal Canada~ Living in Beijing :)


      I would sign up too, cheers from Argentina


      I recommend www.penpalland.com its a language exchange-based social network website.


      Duolingo guide: "I would like a new course: What should I do? - vote for this thread and/or add your comments to it. Duolingo asks us to sum up our votes and comments in an already existing discussion."

      So, if you want to see Croatian on Duolingo, VOTE UP Terrapod's opening post above :)


      Yes, do this. Maybe they are waiting for 1,000 upvotes. We already have nearly 700, so what are you waiting for?


      I'm with you 100%. Let's get this ball rolling.


      I really hope that there will be Croatian soon!


      Yes!! I'm applying for my Croatian citizenship and I really need to get my language skills up - tutors are so expensive!


      Yes~ Please someone make one, and I'll sign up!!!


      there is some croatian lessons here? i'm leaving in zagreb and i need it


      I would like to start creating an english course for croatian speakers. How do I start?


      I really hope someone makes it.



      New language want poll; remember to write for Croatian


      My girlfriend wants it too and I want it for her!!!


      Hopefully the more demand this gets the more likely it will be developed. Would love to learn


      I am interested! Would love to learn Croatian with Duolingo. I could use this for work...I'm sure there would be 10-20 people at my work who would also use it.


      Very, very, very interested!!!


      I've been waiting for this ever since I discovered Duolingo! I'm a beginner in Croatian, but if there's anyway I can assist, let me know!


      Very much interested!


      I've been wanting to learn Croatian since I lived there for three months last year. Started learning it there but I'm back in the States and I really like using Duolingo.


      Me too, I find Duolingo to be the most user friendly language learning site. Haven't much experience of the app yet, but obviously it is very similar. I would like to have all of my little collection of languages on Duolingo. Already speak French, and am on Duolingo doing Spanish to refresh and improve my knowledge, beginners Romanian and Catalan for Spanish speakers. Desperate to study a slavic language, and Croatian and Slovenian really appeal. Looks like we will have a wait for any news, so thinking of starting Russian on here. Can anyone recommend it?


      Croatian please!!


      I am very interested in Croatian!! My great-grandfather was Croatian and I think it is a beautiful language, but it was not passed on to me. I would be so happy to see a course on here!


      We need to add: Serbian,Croatian,Latin,Finnish,Belorussian


      I am Croatian too, how can I help you?


      apply for the incubator, please :)


      Absolutely! My wife is Croatian and it is time I learn how to talk to my IN-Laws... even if I don't want to }P


      i would love it!


      Yes! I am Croatian, and fluent in english, so yeah, that would be amazing!!!!


      I would LOVE a Croatian course. My dad is Croatian but I have never learned it.


      i would definitely be interested in doing this course, my girlfriend is Croatian and I'd love to be able to communicate with her family in there mother tongue =) I really hope someone makes it soon!


      PLEASE add croatian! i need something as duolingo to improve


      We have close friends in Croatia. Would love to learn the language so we can visit with them!


      I would be interested in learning Croatian.


      I would love to re learn, was my first language but i have since forgotten it as i haven't lived in Croatia nor have i spoken it for over 12 (i am 18 now)


      I would LOVE it!! I have Croatian roots and haven't spoken the language in so long I forgot it, so I would LOVE that!!


      I am Croatian but can't speak it. And I would love to be able to. If someone is debating on making one or not, I strongly encourage you to.


      I'd love to learn it! :D


      Could be awesome. There are a lot of croatian diaspora around the world who will like to learn and improve the language. I'm one of them.


      That would be awesome. I would definitely take it.


      Someone should definitely make it


      Yes, please! I'm half croatian, speak the language but would love to improve it, as I don't live in Croatia, but half of my family is living there.


      i think it would be very useful


      Yes! I would love this. I am 1/2 croatian and my mother came from the Vranik valley.


      I want to learn Croatian in the future:-) too I hope there will be duolingo for Croatian.


      I really need this course! It would be really great to have it


      I hope dearly that they do create a croatian course. I have always wanted to be able to call my Baka and talk to her in her native tongue.


      I am also eager to see a croatian course appearing on duolingo! I am constantly waiting for it and checking the website! Duolingo would just be the best way to learn it! Thank you!


      I would like to take Croatian. I've been struggling to find a good course online, and a duolingo course would be great!!


      I'd really like to have a Croatian course.


      I would be very happy for Serbo-Croatian to appear one day. My wife is native French and she has a great interest in learning it. I am sure Duolingo course would make it easier. I am coming from a Serbian part of the language and I am willing a lot to contribute.


      To misliš u slučaju da naprave kombinirani tečaj?


      I would love to learn croatian! Its my mothers tongue but I don't know much.


      I'd love to learn Croatian!!!!!


      I am interested at many levels, being an etymology freak.

      I've always thought that Croatian was just a "bastardized version of Russian without cyrillic".

      A closer look tells another story, Croatian is often one of the purest language in respect to indoeuropean origins, having many forgotten word stems in common with Sanskrit.

      (And thanks to @Euterpa for having let me know this beautiful language) :)))


      Except I'm Euterpa here :P But I accept it ^_^ You're welcome. :)


      Yep, I had already edited it before reading this :D


      Hahah then I read the email and replied here too fast :D


      i am also interested in !! definitely they should add serbian crotian and bosnian


      I would absolutely love to have a Croatian course for English speakers! Kind of surprised there isn't one yet, actually ... especially after reading some of this thread. There seem to be plenty of willing contributors!


      I also support doing Croatian for English speaker...we have an interesting history and culture :) and it would be useful not just for the people who are interested because of the language itself, but also for Croatian diaspora :)


      I would love to learn Croatian! I go there often and have tried form books, but it would be far more fun on this site! I look forward to seeing a Croatian course created soon!


      I really need this to be a course since then I could communicate with my mom's side of my family. Also itd be able to speak to my ill grandmother in her native tongue


      It would be really helpful, and great, if there was a Croatian DuoLingo course. I spent a year or so in Croatia as a kid and learned a little of the language. I visited Croatia as an adult one time, and after a couple of days on the Dalmatian coast, my Croatian came back. It would be REALLY helpful to learn the grammar of the language properly. Also, before I visit it would be helpful to refresh the language. I am also looking into business trips to Croatia (as I am a professor). I know several other people who would welcome a DuoLingo course on Croatian. -Glenn


      New free portal for online Croatian learning launched http://www.croatiaweek.com/new-free-portal-for-online-croatian-learning-launched/

      It's not Duolingo but it's a good start until we get the course! :)


      I am definitely interested in learning!

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        I am One quarter croatian and would love to be able to learn another language from my heritage!!!!!!!!!!


        I'm willing to contribute. Got some things I need to take care of first, but I will most probably apply as contributor soon.


        I could also contribute. I studied the language and I've lived in Croatia for 4 years now.


        Is there Croatian???? I can't find it - please add it! My boyfriend is part and his dad is full and I'd like to learn the language. I really love this program, please add Croatian to Duolingo.


        go for it. i can do some study and help if you want


        This would be cool as. I love seeing more Slavic languages and it'd be cool to learn. Also I know a lot of people who would love to learn the language as well.


        I would really like to learn and contribute to a Croatian course either from English or Dutch.


        I would love this course to happen! My parents are Croatian and I would love to make them proud by learning it!


        Oh that's so awesome! I've always wanted to meet someone who's from the same kind of part of Europe. Do you know any bits of Croatian or are you like me with my second language (Polish) and can't really say or translate anything useful? :P


        yes! is this gonna happen?


        I'd be super happy if Duolingo made a Croatian course! Love the language!


        I am Croatian native speaker, already sign in incubator, but no response yet. If anyone needs help with learning croatian, I would be glad to help.


        Yes please create this course!


        I'm 1/2 Croatian and pretty new to Duolingo and I would love to learn the language!


        I have a house at the Croatian seaside where I have been going every summer since I was born. All my summers have been spent there and continuing but still I haven't learned how to speak the language because it is hard to learn. During the years I have made some wonderful friends which I have to talk to in English because I don't know Croatian. I also have relatives who don't know English that well and I can't talk to them either. All my life I have wished to speak Croatian becuase it is such a beautiful language to me and it would tremendously help me in my life. I have searched a lot over the internet for a good course and I've come across a lot of different options but none seem to help me that much. On this site I have learned some languages and this site is the best one I've come across. For 2 years, I have wished for Duolingo to add a Croatian course. I am very happy to see that so many people would like it as well and are willing to help making one. I don't see a reason to why Duolingo would not add a Croatian course since it would help a lot of people like me. I really hope that one day, I will see a Croatian course on here and finally be able to learn the language.


        I fly out to Croatia every year for festival season in Pula! I love croatia!


        I would love to learn it!


        I really hope this is made: I'm already learning. For now I've made some decks on TinyCards and soon and am gonna go through them with my native-speaker teacher to check if I've made any mistakes (my native language is English, using vocab and phrases taken from Croatian - German books to make Croatian - English cards).


        Croatian, yes please! I need more practice to stop pronouncing it like a typical Slovenian.


        I think that would be awesome! Since I am about 1/5th Croatian I am really enthusiastic about learning it.


        If Duolingo starts doing this course, which standard do you think we should use? I'd opt for "Hrvatski školski pravopis" by Babić, Ham, Moguš since it has been in use for the longest time and was (I think is still recomended by ministry of education). This question is imortant since those standards vary a lot.


        looking forward to a Croatian course!


        I would love to be able to learn Croatian on Duolingo. I am afraid that it may take ages for it to be admitted to the incubator, because the Finnish course is even more in demand and they have been waiting for a while now. But I wish you good luck!


        I see that this post is quite old, but I'd be very interested in a Croatian course. Any recent news?


        Unfortunately, no :(


        That is unfortunate. This is one of the few things I do not like about Duolingo. If qualified people are excited to make a course, they should be allowed to. It seems like Duolingo cares more about the amount of people they can get to learn a language than the languages themselves.


        Does anyone know any other free resources for studying Croatian, since Duolingo has been dragging their feet on this one for two years now...?


        I'm Croatian and I've tried several apps that claim they teach Croatian in search for something I could recommend to foreigners, but almost all of them have many flaws (including Memrise). So far, I found only one website/app that is very good and that is "Mondly". Their way of teaching is very similar to Duolingo's.


        I'll look at that one. Thanks!


        What about Glossika? Only the first thousand sentences are free, but that gives you an introduction to see if you would like to purchase the full course. I am seriously interested myself.


        Yes! Please add it!! My cousin works in Croatia and I love to visit! :)


        Is the discussion still ongoing? I noticed the replies here are over a year ago.


        yes! I am learning independently/have some heritage knowledge but would LOVE to see this in duolingo!


        Yeah why not. If anyone needs help,I could team up and make English to Croatian or Croatian to English.


        Hrvatski jezik, please Duolingo!


        This course would make my day...week...month...and the rest of the time I was working on Croatian. Molim Duolingo....make this happen.


        Yes please. I need to learn this to convince the parents of the woman I'm in love with that I am not a loser. Thanks in advance.


        That's so romantic. Good luck, and I hope you have now won the hearts of your new family.


        I hope so much the Croatian course will be created! This is such a beautiful language and having the chance to learn it on Duolingo would be awesome!


        Hey, I am willing to help with this course!


        Hmm,for some reason I cannot find my previous comment anymore. Well anyways, I am a native Croatian speaker and I'd love to help (I also entered the incubator).


        I'd love to have a course of Croatian!!


        I would love for there to be a Croatian course!


        I am willing to make it but duolingo didnt say anything yet

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          I can help in making croatian for english speakers

          [deactivated user]

            So many people speak Croatian, it's such a beautiful country, and yet there isn't a language for this on Duolingo? Especially as the tourism is increasing over there! This would be brilliant to start. :)


            I just don't get it. I've read so many people have been willing to help create such a course, for a couple of years and to no avail. What's wrong with DL? I just don't get it ... I wish I could learn Croatian, hence I spend most of my holidays there.


            It would be great to see Croatian on here and I'd be happy to contribute as well. So, my vote's in! :D


            https://incubator.duolingo.com/ Please sign up to contribute to make this possible

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              I would absolutely love to see this language hosted on duolingo. I've been trying to learn Bosnian on and off for some time now, owing a large portion of my struggles to the fact that support for this language (and Croatian/Serbian) is extremely limited. I'm lucky to have found a free resource put together for Croatian. :) Having said that, seeing this course on here would be a huge help in supplementing my studies and keeping motivated when time and energy is scarce.

              Also, not wanting this to become a political post as there are plenty already, but we need to move beyond the debate on what this should be called. For those people saying "you can't call it Serbo-Croatian" because they are different langues: perhaps you are right. I'm not a native to these countries so it would be unfair of me to comment or say decisively either way. All I know is that they share similarities and if you learn one, you can transition to the others with relative ease (ignoring the Cyrillic/Latin alphabet split).

              Having said that, I'm not at all sure why people are coming here to argue about which language should be first. This is "Croatian for English Speakers", a thread set up specifically to raise awareness and support for getting the Croatian language on duolingo. I admire your determination to have Serbian and Bosnian represented, but it would be more productive to set up/contribute to individual, relevant threads. Please keep this thread for discussions on getting Croatian supported in duolingo. Aside from this, something always has to be first. Why were German/French/Spanish first on this site? Why not other languages? Because they are the most popular and widely spoken of languages foreign to English and it makes sense to cater for a broader community's interests. In the same vein, Croatian is possibly a logical first choice of the Balkan languages to get on duolingo. I say this because it is the most likely of the languages to be available on devices, programs, subtitles, etc. and is also a far more likely/advertised holiday destination. From what I can see, there are actually more Serbian speakers in the world than Croatian, so there's also an argument for Serbian to be the first.

              Either way, these languages have so little exposure to the world and aren't supported or taught widely at all, and it'd be a shame for these debates to prevent progress on changing that. Please, for those from Bosnia/Croatia/Serbia, please just choose one of your languages between you and promote it furiously, by arguing incessantly you are merely keeping your language in the dark, away from those desperate to learn it.


              That would be awesome!!


              Please do Croatian!


              What happened to this?! Lets bring it back. How do we create this course???


              I also would love to see this course! Waiting for it to happen since more than one year!!!!


              I'm interesting in a Croatian course


              I am half-Croat raised in England. I speak the language decently but would love to improve, both for myself and to improve communication with family. I could maybe help with making the course as well, at basic level, but not sure I'd be much use when getting to the more complicated stuff. But yeah, I'd love a Croatian course at any rate. Daj nam Hrvatski Duolingo!


              you should apply for the incubator :)


              Please sign up to help make this course a reality


              I would sign up for Croatian.


              https://incubator.duolingo.com/ Please sign up and make this dream a reality


              I go to Croatia every year I would love to teach Croatian to others!!!!!


              I want to learn croatian


              Mi volas lerni kroatan lingvon!


              I want it so bad!!!


              i really wish they would!!


              Duolingo helped me learn german and taught it to me well. I am half croatian and i live in Australia ive been back to meet family relatives but i cant speak any croatian all the other apps that offer croatian courses you either have to pay for or they dont teach it as well as duolingo could. Please make croatian for english speakers!


              If this course is created it will gain popularity because there is allot of people who are croatian living in english speaking countries because of ww2 and the yugoslavian war that would love to learn it. Some of the people on this page even


              Please make it! My mother's side of the family is Croation but she didn't teach it to me when I was younger. For my New Years Resolution I would love to learn the language! But I can't seem to find a decent website where the coding isn't terrible and my mum even says the audio speaks too fast. I would love a Duolingo course (:


              I've been married for 41 years to my beautiful Evica. Unfortunately I only speak a handful of Croatian words. I have been learning Spanish with Duolingo and think it is The Best App on my phone. I would love to one day speak to my wife and her friends in Croatian. Come on Duolingo, I'm running out of time. I just retired from work today. I'll need something to do in my spare time. C'mon mi companeros. Let's do it!!!


              Congratulations on your retirement, and on 41 years of happiness!


              Gosh.. I just wonder how many comments will there be on this subject? Getting tired of these notifications, yet no action from duolingo...


              Commenting to make sure my vote goes through for croatian. I am croatian but have lived in sweden my whole life and would love to learn more. I have many in my family that feels the same way and i have seen many requests here. please pick croatian duo <3


              Hey Everyone! I'd love to see a Croatian course here on Duolingo! My vote goes for Croatian seeing as it my mother tongue!

              I have been following this thread for about a year or so and I see a lot of the concerns from wanting to mix the course to be a Serbo-Croatian course, I get that and see how it kills two birds with one stone, however for me its nothing against the Serbian language but just as Russian and Ukrainian share most of their language, they are considered different languages and are taught as such, in that respect I think Croatian and Serbian should be treated as two differently beautiful languages.

              I don't think it would be beneficial to treat Serbian as the same language as a DuoStudent learning Croatian would have to go through the process of learning the Cyrillic alphabet only for it to not be used and grammar that isn't applicable. I guess some would argue "why not?" cause it could be seen as learning two languages that are similar and are absolutely beautiful, but again its a matter of preference. In my own personal opinion I would like to avoid learning an alphabet.

              I think a happy middle ground would be to have someone who is willing to make the Croatian course and do such, but then coordinate with others who might want to make the Serbian version and provide the Croatian criteria as a guide. That way those wanting to create the Serbian course will have a base to work off of and will be able to reshape the course to fit the grammatical/alphabetical and cultural differences from the Croatian language. That way both languages could become active within a short time of each other but also satisfy the preferences of those learning each respective language despite them being so similar.

              I'd love to hear what you guys think about this, any thoughts? I really would love to see this course be made :)


              Just to add a pebble to the pile, my wife and I are interested in this


              I can make it my native language is Croatian !


              Hi my native language is Croatian an I'm very interested in building this course! Kisses from Croatia! :)


              yes please, I need to learn Croatian desperately and I can't find a good place to learn it.


              If contributors could somehow find a way to integrate Croatian, Serbian, and Bosnian into a single course, there would be more than enough demand to get Duolingo to go along with this!


              Remember you need to have lots of upvotes on the request before they will consider adding it. About 800-1000 upvotes will go a long way to convincing the admins.


              My parents are Croatian and I know a bit of the language, but they usually speak English in the house because it's the easiest and fastest way to communicate with me, so I never learned the language too well. I've been learning Japanese the last month or so and Doulingo has been one of my favorite ways to practice. I was never that motivated to learn Croatian, but I can easily see myself switching to it on Duolingo every day after I finish Japanese for that day. Then after a while I could surprise my family with my vocabulary that's finally better than kindergarten level! lol


              What a shame that it hadn't been spoken to you from when you were a baby. That would have been awesome for you, in my opinion. Being truly bilingual is such a gift and an advantage. Never mind, you are interested now, and if we get Croatian on Duolingo I will be excited to learn it alongside all of you.


              Please please make this happen !!


              I'll love it! and really need it


              We really need this. Croatia joined the EU and now we want to speak her language.


              If I had a chance,I'd love to teach people my Native Croatian language.:) Contributing to Duolingo is the least I can do. It would be my pleasure.:)


              Yes, please and thank you!


              I'd be happy to contribute if the course is ever approved.


              This would be amazing. I've always wanted to talk to my grandparents in their native tongue and it would be nice to be able to speak it when i go.


              We need to spread this post so people can vote for this post/Croatian language course. Is anybody in a huge duolingo group e.g. on facebook and could motivate people to help us reaching finally the needed votes to creata this course? The more attention and votes this post gets, the faster it will be visible for duolingo!! :)


              Being such a slut for Balkan languages, I would love it if we would have Croatian! <3


              It would be ideal to pool the upvotes for Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian together. After all, it is the same language. I upvoted all three, hopefully someone at Duolingo we put the votes together.


              Duolingo CAN YOU HEAR US? 691 comments over 5 years and not once have you responded. Not much reputational management / customer care going on. At least you could reply and put us out of our misery. For some reason Klingon and Esperanto is deemed more relevant to you than Croatian / serbo-Croatian but obviously not to these 691+ people who have expressed interest. At least have the decency to reply


              I am a native English speaker, and I'm very interested in a Croatian language course for English speakers!


              Yes please I love these languages!


              I've only just started my second year in studying the language, but I'd be interested in helping out as much as possible if this course ever became a reality.


              i'm just looking on the internet to learn Croatian. It would be great if Duolingo offers the course!


              I am from Croatia.I willing to make it because Croatian launguage coverse Bosnia and Hecegovina,Serbia...


              I applied to contribute,but it doesn't look likely to get started.If anyone has suggestions for alternative way to help out please do tell! Or if you are intersted i could help you personally,only English speaking people tho,as i am not fluent in other languages

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                Already applied, but for Bosnian, though Croatian, Bosnian and Serbian are awfully similar


                I would be very very great full if someone made a Croatian course.


                I NEED this course!!!! Molim!!


                I've visited Croatia three times, and hope to return there soon. My first visit there was in 1990, when it was a republic within Jugoslavia. I think that with the growing number of English-speaking tourists visiting there, this would be a very popular language for Duolingo to take on.


                I would love to speak and understand even a little Croatian. I've been visiting Medjugorje since 1995 and still find it hard to say even the simplest words. Would dearly love to study this language on Duolingo. Hvala!

                • Here's the letter I emailed to Duolingo some time ago:

                "I'm currently using Duolingo to learn Russian. I's very good but there are slight inaccuracies here and there... I'm native Croatian speaker but my English level is somwhere between C1 and C2. I have a friend (also Croatian) who works as a professional English translator and has C2 certificate. Recently he married some girl in Kenya and they live here in Croatia now. We tought it would be awesome if Duolingo had a Croatian course so she could use it to learn the language better and faster...

                Croatian is very similar to Russian - they are Slavic cousin languages. But Croatian uses Latin script instead of Cyrillic and has a rule of writing letters and words in the same way they are pronounced, so it's actually a bit easier to learn. So once you know the alphabet - you already know how to read and pronounce words (altough your accent will probably be slightly wrong)! I think that existing Russian course would be a very good base for making a Croatian course - it only needs little modifying. I have free time to spare and I'm willing to do it. I have some basic knowledge of coding and programming (HTML5, CSS, JS, Python, Ruby, PHP, SQL...) that I picked up at codecademy.com few years ago. I believe I could manage creating a simple course (Duolingo was made with Python)... My friend will also help of course with his certified translation skills.

                So if you provide me with the proper tools and documentation - I would be happy to create this course for you! Croatia doesn't have large population but it's one of the top tourist destinations, so I believe that people would be interested in Duolingo course if they plan to spend their vacation here..."

                • Sadly, I never recieved any reply from anyone. But now I discovered this topic and I see that I'm not alone. However the subject is already 2 years old and still there's no progress. People offer to do the dirty work for free and no one's intersted! How unfortunate...


                Thank you very much for your initiative ! I am really waiting for this course, I am Russian and my boyfriend is Croatian and I would love to have such a tool as Duolingo to learn the language faster and be able to communicate with his friends and family. I go to Croatia every year for almost 20 years and I see that people travel to Croatia more and more and I am sure that there will be the demand for this Course from people who want to discover this beautiful country ! Let's hope Duolingo will help you with your initiative - it will be highly appreciated !


                Please apply again


                I want one too.


                Croatian is a wonderful language...I would love to have the possibility to learn it through Duolingo!


                Hi, I'd love to be part of a Croatian course. I have a beginners book/workbook and have done 2 beginners courses in Zadar University. Duo would be a great learning facility! Any takers to help put it together?

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                  I would love to have this language created. I don't know any of it, so I can't contribute to making it available. but for those that can please do.


                  https://www.duolingo.com/comment/21647886, this will help you be motivated to learn more on Duolingo.


                  i would absolutely love to learn it

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                    I am willing to make it. I teach croatian on LE Amino and I think that this will be a good thing for them to learn easier


                    Many are willing to help create the course, but it doesn't change a thing. I wonder why? Perhaps you should visit the Incubator and apply ...

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                      I just did it and I wait for reply from them.


                      Sretno! I am actually looking forward to being able to practice and improve my Croatian. Puno pozdrava!


                      Any updates on if they’ll let you make the course? Maybe you can sign up to put it in the incubator


                      Very interested!


                      I seems like so many people are interested in a Croatian course.....I wonder why duolingo hasn't even started yet....any suggestions on what we could do?


                      Keep knocking .... ;-)))

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                        I'm desperate for this course to be made! I've been wanting to learn for some time now but it's not a well supported language generally speaking which I think is a shame, it's such a beautiful language! I'm 100% behind this.


                        I would love to learn croatian. I play online games with croatian players and would love to learn the language as I am learning the culture. Please make this if you can. It would be appreciated very much!


                        Please, add Croatian! It is such a beautiful language! <3 I love croatian culture and football so much!


                        i really wish someone would do it! my dad is from there and i really want to learn


                        Definitely would love this! Anything happening with this?


                        I really want to learn Croatian!! I cannot find a good platform to learn it and I need it to speak with my family in Croatia. I hope someone can make it :)


                        I'd like to learn this language. Somebody ought to start making this course.


                        Hi guys, Reading the comments below, I can see why starting a Croatian course could be delayed as it is closely related with the other former Yugoslavic countries. And as I myself am not Croatian, nor contain any ancestry from the part of the world, I really do strive to learn it! Truth is, there are not many good Croatian-learning resources out there. So in a way, coming together to create a Croatian course on Duolingo would send shockwaves throughout the Internet as people now have an affordable, accessible way to enjoy the cultures found in the Balkans. And not just Croatian either. Serbian, and Bosnian, and Montenegrin and so on.

                        <pre> But I am disappointed to see there is much division in the comment section about whether to create a solely Croatian course and a solely Serbian course and a solely Bosnian course and so on, or whether to combine all of them into one course. And I can see valid points from both sides of the argument. For the sake of simplicity, I will be labeling Croatian and Serbian and Bosnian and all Montenegrin and so on as separate languages. I am in no way trying to enforce the idea that they are separate languages, or even say they are dialects of merely the same language. I am only labeling them according to the political geography. Furthermore, I simply want to learn Croatian! And possibly Serbian along the way. And seeing this division, all this in-fighting will only delay the process. So I propose a compromise. I can understand that by combining all the Slavic languages into one language would save resources and time, as opposed to creating a course singularly. I can also understand that there are some differences worth noting if all those languages were combined since Croatian is written with the Latin alphabet, and Serbian is written the Cyrillic. So how about this? We create a course where it simply says "Slavic". But before you begin the course, you have two options: You can either learn Croatian (with the Latin alphabet) or Serbian (with the Cyrillic alphabet). Then assuming you finish one course completely, you can simply go back and learn the other course with the other alphabet. Learning the other sub-course will be easy as from what I have heard and read, you are simply relearning the words, just with a different alphabet. Furthermore, in order to make note of the differences between say, Serbian and Croatian, there could be a bonus learning skill that will note the different and similar vocab the two languages share with each other. What do you guys think? I am open to suggestions and ideas. This is merely a possible plan I have articulated that could help us move past this barrier that has preventing from doing a Croatian/Serbian/Bosnian/Montenegrin course for too long. I hope that we all be respectful towards one another and provide constructive criticism. As insulting one another and becoming hostile to those who you disagree with at first will only be counter-intuitive towards our goal of possible creating a Croatian course. And if indeed this plan takes shape and work, we can also visit the Serbian/Bosnian/Montenegrin comment threads and propose to them our ideas. No doubt there is a similar discussion going in those comment threads as well. Together, we can organize as a community and pull this off. Together! We can create a Croatian course for all to learn! Cilj je ispred nas! Uhvatite ga!* </pre>
                        • I pulled this from Google translate. So forgive me if there are any grammatical errors. If there are, one more reason a Duolingo Croatian course is worth putting our differences aside.


                        I also want to learn Croatian Been going there for the last 12 years and have only a little of it it is hard language to learn Colm


                        I am willing to help with the work since I am a native Croatian-speaker


                        Please someone make it! Can we donate some money or something to make it happen?



                        That sounds awesome


                        Some of you asked me for Croatian lessons. If someone is actually interested in skype/email lessons, you can contact me here. :)

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                          Hi rorypaw, I'd be interested, though not sure how to contact people on here!


                          Oh yeah, there are no private messages here. I haven't mentioned it, but I teach languages (not often) online but not free of charge. It is just because I am a college student so any kind of income is always welcome haha. That being said, I usually charge 5 euros per hour, which I think is an okay price. I completely understand if you (or anyone else) are looking for free lessons though.


                          Uuu, a course would be nice! My boyfriend uses the fact that there is no Croatian course on Duolingo as an excuse not to start learning it :p


                          heard that Duolingo people? Let's make this course!!!!! pfmko*:would you have the time to teach him?I hope he'll learn!It's such a beautiful language!


                          I am with you. Let's get this show on the road, Duolingo!


                          Please do it, Duo Lingo! I am Serbian and my husband is American and really wants to learn the language. We love the Duo Lingo app and it would be so cool/fun for him to be able to learn Serbo-Croatian this way!


                          If it were for croatian course to be made, which ortography and grammar should be used. This is still an ongoing question in Croatia, "Which standard to use?". So What do you think?


                          I would love to have croatian. I can talk in croatian, because my mother and half my family are from there, but i'm not as good as I want to be and I'm not fluent. I want to learn Croatian so I could speak better with my family. Also would love to have Serbian/bosnian since it's about the same language (you all know it's true)


                          I want to learn Croatian, at the moment I have found this if it helps any one https://www.loecsen.com/en/learn-croatian/88-2-66-essentials I do hope duolingo start a Croatian language course


                          I would really love to learn Croatian with Duo !!!


                          I would LOVE to see a Croatian for English speakers!


                          I am also very interested in this :)


                          yes, I'd love to learn Croatian on Duolingo


                          I would surely sign up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


                          Please can we get a Croatian course started, it’s been 4 years :(


                          Yes, please. Let's get this ball rolling.

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                            Well, I've only been involved in this on-going battle for a year or so now, but still no progress on making it happen it seems. Really disappointing that DuoLingo isn't at least vocally considering this course.

                            In the meantime, a resource I found that might prove useful to some is http://www.easy-croatian.com/. Check it out if you feel it may be useful.

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                              Hello, I just applied a course: Croatian for English Speakers


                              Is this debate still alive? I’m British , married to a Croatian and planning to have kids. So I need to learn right? Otherwise my kids will speak a language that I can only swear in and count to ten. If Duolingo can do this that would be magic. Or perhaps there is another “ learn Croatian “ app I don’t know about ?


                              That’s basically my future. My boyfriends Croatian and I would love to be able to communicate with his grandmother in a way other than making gestures and smiles.


                              I believe that Croatian SHOULD BE here on Duolingo.com. Croatia - both the country and people - is amazing. And now, after the World Cup, it has become even more popular!


                              I would absolutely love if they'd introduce this!


                              I think there are a few other threads on Duolingo about developing a Croatian course. It seems there is a huge amount of interest if you look at all the different threads. Is it possible for Duolingo to comment on whether this is going to be feasible or not in the near future? Thank you ! Catherine


                              Please Duolingo, make this happen! I'd be happy to help developing Croatian for English speakers and vice versa, I applied for it too in the Incubator but so far nothing seems to be happening.


                              I hope they allow this soon, I recently learned that I have a Lot of family still in Croatia, and just being able to go over and visit and understand the language would be amazing.


                              i would be delighted :-D


                              Applied months ago, still no answer.


                              thank you for applying <3 let's hope they will soon create the course! Hvalaaaaa


                              I would love to learn Croatian! A part of my family is from Croatia, but sadly I never got the chance to learn it. There is no course on the internet to learn Croatian, so I would be glad if somehow someone will make a course here at duolingo!


                              I'm very interested! Married to a Croatian and most of his family only speaks or prefers to speak Croatian. I've visited and would feel so much more comfortable going back with more understanding of the language!


                              We have to get this post voted as much as possible. Maybe you know any duolingo groups so members could vote for it!!

                              I've read on a duolingo post that they decided which course is going to be developed depends on its among of votes!!!


                              I would love to learn Croatian. Croatia is a beautiful country and on my bucket list of places I have to see before I die. Please make this a reality soon, Duo.


                              I would like to be added to the headcount of voters to start this new course on Duo. Sorry I can not contribute as I have no prior knowledge of the language. I feel a bit pessimistic though as this discussion was started 4 years ago (today is the last day of August in 2018) and it is still not a reality.


                              I think that we should all vote this post, it's the one they're "monitoring" to decide if they should start the course.


                              Has anyone ever tried to sum up our votes on this discussion? https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/15014194/GUIDE-I-would-like-a-new-course-What-should-I-do Maybe there are people interested in the course that commented on this discussion but didn't vote.


                              Good advice, I never saw the item you linked to. I didn’t know the votes mattered! I just voted.


                              It would be awesome! I wanna learn Croatian, too. ^^


                              I would like to help with this course too! I'm a native Croatian speaker


                              I really want to learn Croatian. I would be so happy if duolingo made a learn Croatian course for English speakers! Please make a course duolingo!


                              I posted a new question earlier today, as I had not seen these hundreds of comments, but was kindly referred to this thread. I have visited Croatia many times, but have been unable to pick up more than a few basics. As someone here said, not that many Croatians speak English; the second language in most tourist areas seems to be German, which I am trying to learn, but it would be better if I could try learning the real language of the country.


                              I would love to learn Croatian....


                              I would love to help


                              I would love to contribute in doing a Croatian for English speakers! I am a native Croatian speaker :)


                              Yes, we are still watching the duolingo course list for Croatian! Please!


                              would love to contribute


                              Late to the party, but Croatian, PLEASE! The south Slavic languages are my favourite gateway into the Slavic world!


                              Yes! Please, when will it be available? I have been checking fir Croatian (Hrvatski) to appear in Duolingo every couple of months. And even googled about it, which is how i found this discussion!


                              Would love to learn Croatian, I'm Australian but have a lot of Croatian family and it would be amazing to be able to learn as they are quite old and not really able to teach me


                              i grew up speaking croatian to my family in america, but i dont feel that im that good at it. i would love a croatian course to help me improve in the language.


                              Have been very interested in this for a while now! Been wanting to learn as a sort of surprise for my Croatian boyfriend :)


                              i would love to learn croatian


                              I am highly interested in learning Croatian (I will travel to Croatia and the Balkans next year and I'd be amazed to speak some words). That's a real shame this language has not been available on Duo so far! Looking forward to it!


                              I am half Croatian and have waited 2 years for potentially a Croatian Duolingo.. croatia is such a popular tourist destination please please please put a duolingo croatian on your app!


                              Where are you from? :)


                              Is there any movement on a Croatian course? I can see that people have applied to create the course, is Duolingo moving forward with this? We need this course! I only know bad/swear words and want to learn some basics! Lol!


                              It would you be fantastic to learn Croatian!


                              I guess now 4 years later still no Croatian. They almost won the world cup!


                              Can they combine the requests for Serbian and Bosnian? It's splitting the votes three ways. If they got HR on here I would pay!


                              I'd love to contribute to a Croatian course too! I grew up speaking Croatian in the US. There are so few good resources online :/


                              I would love to see Croatian for English in the incubator. I'd even settle for Croatian for Spanish or Croatian for German.


                              I would love Croation for English speakers! Molim!!!!

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                                I would love this.


                                Yes!!! Please!!!!


                                Would love to see a Croatian course!


                                It would be nice to have a Croatian course!


                                I would definitely be down to have Croatian on here. I have tried my hand at Polish, Russian, and Ukranian before (with Polish being the only one that has really caught on), and I think having other Slavic languages would be a nice addition to Duolingo.

                                I know there are other apps that offer Croatian already, namely Mondly, but they make you pay through the nose in order to learn the language after the basics, with those basics being poorly or only averagely executed. Duolingo remaining free and having the most in-depth teaching and breakdown of their lessons makes it the most attractive and most plausible platform to have a Croatian program on.


                                Thumbs up for Croatian here as well. In a previous life I was stationed near Tuzla in IFOR. All slavic linguists in the Army had to learn it (I was originally trained for Russian). Would be good to review the language. I listen to it on the radio now and again, but after over 20 years of not using it I've likely forgotten more than I remember.


                                i would love it. so many want croatian as a course but duolingo still havent made a course.... this is sad


                                I want to learn croatian!!!


                                I Want to see a croatian course on duolingo

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                                Any progress here?


                                when is this course coming?


                                Don't know how old your post is but very much interested in learning Croatian.


                                I like the idea, but can't help make it.


                                Hi, for those who are (im)patiently waiting for the course, here's another couple of suggestions: 1. language exchange subreddit, if you have an account there, you can try your luck by posting a request. 2. HiNative 3. Hello Talk 4. Join a Discord language learning server.
                                5. Facebook groups 6. Google (YT) 7. LibGen

                                Unrelated to my suggestions, I'd like to give a couple of remarks as to why it's maybe better to make Croatian and Serbian on Duolingo separately: 1. First and foremost, as someone has already mentioned, - sociolinguistics. The grammar is almost identical, but some things aren't, Croatian speakers have different speaking habits than Serbs. It'd be a bit tricky to combine two dialects that don't have the same gender and suffixes for some nouns (ex. kvalitet - Serbian vs kvaliteta - Croatian) and the differences in some nouns and adjectives due to phonetic changes (ex. korišćenje (usage) - Serbian vs korištenje - Croatian, disaoni (respiratory) - Serbian vs dišni - Croatian). Some words used in Croatian don't sound natural in Serbian, let me give you some examples: My girlfriend and I broke up. Croatian: Moja djevojka i ja smo prekinuli. Serbian: Moja devojka i ja smo raskinuli. I apologize! Croatian: Ispričavam se! Serbian: Izvinjavam se! 2. Ekavian VS Yekavian Serbian has the Ekavian reflex, while Croatian has the Yekavian one Svetlo - svjetlo (light) 3. Different words External vanjski (Croatian) - spoljašnji (Serbian) Artificial umjetni (Croatian) - veštački (Serbian) Official službeni (Croatian) - zvanični (Serbian) Personal osobni (Croatian) - lični (Serbian) Oxygen kisik (Croatian) - kiseonik (Serbian) Air zrak (Croatian) - vazduh (Serbian) Etc. 4. Different writing systems: Although the Latin alphabet is widely accepted in Serbia, all the official documents and web sites are written in Cyrillic. [5. Mild phonetic differences. Serbian has a bit more open vowels (o and e) and tends to have a bit 'jumpier' intonation.] The last parenthesis is kind of irrelevant for that matter actually, but the first four points definitely are. That's just my suggestion, because some people may be interested in one dialect more than in the other, so that's why having the courses separately would be convenient.

                                Just for the record, no one should be butthurt if someone mixes up Croatian and Serbian, but I think that building a combined course for SCBM would be very disappointing if the creators failed to point out and examplify the differences between the dialects. Cheers and good luck!




                                You have Klingon and high valaryian but no Serb-Croat language course? Shame on duolingo


                                Plus one for me. I would really love to see Croatian even on the list !! Ta. T.


                                Hello! What better time to contribute to the Duolingo society than while in #Corona quarantine :) I'm a native Croatian and would love to do it!


                                If you have the possibility to apply, do it!!! You need to grab their attention!!


                                BCSM is one of my favorite language families -- please Duolingo make this a course!! And please native speakers apply to contribute to the course: https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply


                                9 months and still nothing ...


                                Ikr. I wish they’d get on with it already. I mean, it’s not as if there’s any shortage of people willing and wanting to help make the course. Idk what’s taking them so long.


                                I applied and also posted on Croatian subreddit, I really hope that it will start soon

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                                  I would love to learn Croatian! Unfortunately I do not speak it, but I support the formation of this course. Croatian is a unique Slavic language that connects people to a very interesting culture. Please consider Croatian Duolingo!!! Thanks and stay safe and healthy everyone! :)


                                  I would love to learn croatian, its my mother tongue but I don't have a lot of family members to practice with regularly.

                                  I know this thread has gone on for a while, are there any updates on when this might happen?

                                  I know another thing that has been brought up a couple times was whether or not it should be a joint course of serbo/cro/bos, I know some might not want to learn the different alphabets, is there harm in just having all 3 courses instead of needing to combine them all? Cause they do have their differences but I get whats being said.


                                  I am half Croatian so I would love to be able to have a app to help with my learning. All the ones that currently exist are quite dated and not user friendly. I know how successful Duolingo is with other languages so would love to be able to learn Croatian this way!


                                  I hope they make at least 1 course soon. Idk what’s taking them so long to at least say something about it


                                  Well? Can we start this course? I speak a Slavic language myself and I'd love to learn this language since my sister's bf is Croatian and I'd love to be able to communicate with his family when I finally get to meet them. For now though, I'll only mess with him.


                                  I signed up and I hope they will enable us to make this course


                                  Also, how many people need to upvote this so that it can be put in run to make a course?


                                  We haven't been able to start this course for 5+ years. You and the rest of us will be waiting a while...


                                  That is just sad and yet we have Klingon and Esperanto...


                                  I would love to learn it :) My boyfriends mum comes from croatia but unfortunately my boyfriend wasn’t raises bilingual so we really want to learn it so we could actually speak a little when we visit friends & family and enjoying vacation there.

                                  Very sad however to see this thread being 5+ years old but maybe one day duolingo can‘t ignore this demand anymore. Left a lot of upvotes and some lingots (if that feature is still working, as they changed the system to gems) in hope that it might help drawing attention to the post. Sorry for giving you all an email update though ^^“


                                  Yeah I hope we wont have to wait another 5 years to get it


                                  I'd love to study Croatian with Duo. Molim vas!!! Please!!!!


                                  And I would like to create it


                                  I’m aware this post is old, but I’m willing to contribute to the creation of the course as I’m a native Croatian speaker!


                                  I want to learn Coatian. I come from Germany so I think Croatian for German speakers is good too. But Croatian from English is the first step. So yes I want to!


                                  I hope we wont have to wait another 6 years

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                                    Make a Croatian Language Course!


                                    This thread has been going on for 6 years! I would still love to see Croatian on here, and would pay for a premium account for that. The political issues are not that hard, keep the languages separate. Once you have Croatian, you can use a lot of that work for Serbian/Bosnian, get the experts to help with the differences and nuances. You already have cyrillic ready to go from Russian. You are a language company! You can do this! Please!


                                    It is an absolute disgrace that this request is so old and still Croatian has not been added. I use this app for other languages but I refuse to pay for it whilst they continue to ignore other cultures. What an absolute disgrace!!!


                                    I wholeheartedly agree


                                    I signed up to create Croatian, still waiting...


                                    Please yes. I would do love to see croation for English speakers on duolingo!!


                                    I would definitely like to add Croatian language to Duolingo app.

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                                      HRVATSKA HRVATSKA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA croatian is also interesting


                                      I would love to contribute. If anyone is interested in making a team for it, let me know.


                                      We cant do anything til Duolingo allows it

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                                        Please Duolingo Support Team, this is one of the most commented and upvoted language request forums, I know so many people that could use a Croatian for English speaker language option on Duolingo, including myself. It has been 7 years, please add Croatian!


                                        It is nice to see there are people who want to learn Croatian language.


                                        Yes, it is. Now if only Duolingo would listen to us.


                                        I'm a native Croatian and would love to contribute!


                                        please open this course I'm waiting since 2015


                                        Fingers crossed! I applied, now waiting for their response. :)


                                        Tell us when they respond!


                                        Tell us when they respond!


                                        Hi, I am a native speaker and I would like to help! Let me know if you get the answer


                                        I'm a native speaker so I can help too! I hope it happens!


                                        Yesssss please people of all the languages I want to learn Croatian is the only one they don't have yet!


                                        Pozdrav ljudi! Vidjela sam da se pokrenula rasprava sa ciljem da se napravi course za " Naš/Наш" . Moja prva misao je bila: "zasto onda ne pomijesat sve slavenske jezike da bude vise šuga?" Osobno mislim da je prevelika razlika u jezicima i s razlogom su to razliciti jezici a ne dijalekti. Prijavila sam se u Incubator sa zeljom da napravimo Croatian for English speaker (-kako i stoji ime diskusije) te se nadam da cemo uspjeti u tom naumu :)


                                        Slažem se u potpunosti! Zašto miješati jezike? Za svaki jezik treba posebno napraviti tečaj jer ipak su to različiti jezici iako dolaze iz iste obitelji.


                                        *speakers. haha. dobro je budjenje :)


                                        Hi people, I am a Croatian language teacher, specialized in teaching coratian as a foreign, willing to make a course. Any tips to whom should I talk about it? I've just runned at this discussion by some random search...


                                        It has been two years. Can you please apply again? I would love to learn this language.


                                        I applied. Fingers crossed they'll accept application. (I'm Croatian too)


                                        It's been already a month, did the apply was accepted? If not, please apply again, I've just started to want to learn Croatian!


                                        I just did, keep fingers crossed :)

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                                          Me too! I really hope they would add it


                                          I applied,but it doesn't seem likely to start any time soon.


                                          Thank you for applying. I wish they would take the applications seriously.


                                          Right? I mean we can now learn Klingon but yet for some reason Duolingo won’t set up a Croatian course that people have been asking for for four years!


                                          This sucks so much Duolingo, do something about it!


                                          Yes, come on, southern slavic languages for Duolingo. They will be globally popular.


                                          Klingon and other conlangs on Duolingo are fantastic, and I hope others will be added. But yes, there are millions of Croatians learning and practicing English. And there are millions of people world wide seeking to learn Croatian with limited resources currently available. It seems like a no-brainer. Let's get this thing started. The people to do it are there. The duolingo plat for is there. This can happen. I am glad the World Cup has brought some attention to Croatia. I am excited to see enthusiasm growing and renewed interest in this thread.


                                          Your enthusiasm is contagious (in a good way of course). Somehow we will make it happen!


                                          As a Native Croatian,I'm very happy to hear your words,Matt :) I would love to contribute to the course if possible some day...there were times I actually wanted to teach somebody my language,and I believe it actually might work..hopefully..even if it's a lil bit of help from my side,but it would make me (and others) happy:))


                                          Thank you, Marina!


                                          nema na čemu:) I put a few lessons here on DL to hook ppl on Croatian language even more and it works:) but I'm not a teacher so I truly hope that the course will be made here on DL cuz alot of Croatian Natives applied,not just me.we want to contribute.:) btw when I see you all wanting Croatian language so much,I feel even more proud of my beautiful country and nation.and tnx for mentioning the World Cup haha!:):* xo


                                          Yes, please apply again, I'm dying to learn this language


                                          Hello Anna , I 'm native Croatian speaker! I have been constantly appliing for the Croatian course , but I asume that I will not get any answer soon. Me and my friend LarisaSab are appliing still , keep your fingers corossed!

                                          Doviđenja iz Hrvatske Goodbye from Croatia <3


                                          Hej! Ja sam se isto prijavila danas jer čitam ove forume i iznenadilo me koliko je ljudi zainteresirano, a još uvijek nema tečaja. Nadam se da će odgovoriti uskoro..


                                          Hvala!!!♡♡♡♡ Thank you for applying!


                                          How do you apply? I want to as well. I'm native Croatian, but live in the U.S.


                                          Just apply to the incubator! http://incubator.duolingo.com/ Thank you so much


                                          I think you would be perfect.


                                          Thank you so much for your effort! <3


                                          Thank you for applying!


                                          Thank you for applying and for your work making this happen.


                                          OMG PLEASE MAKE A CROATIAN DUOLINGO I NEEED IT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


                                          You have to wait for this course.

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                                            I'd love to learn Croatian. Hope they'll accept the application!


                                            I would love to do Croatian. My mother is Croatian, but my father is British. My British family actually stopped my siblings and I from learning serbo-croat and as an adult I would love to interact with my Croatian family.


                                            So sorry to hear that. But you can learn it now you are older. Maybe you already have been doing so, as you left this comment three years ago. It is not looking very hopeful at this point in time that we will get Croatian on Duolingo. Yugoslavian languages are a politically complex issue unfortunately. More on this later, hopefully.


                                            Someone please do this course, I would love to take it!


                                            Yes, Yes & yes :).. would love to see Croatian on Duolingo. Please make it happen..


                                            examples of songs in Croatian (good songs are a rarity)

                                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVQDkTXJQro (the medley includes: Jacques Houdek - Stotinama godina, Tony Cetinski - Blago onom tko te ima, Vatra - Tremolo, Colonia - Svijet voli pobjednike)



                                            And Opća opasnost lead singer is a conservative Christian and I dislike that type of people


                                            Guess what: I am not conservative, I am not religious - but I like the band and the song! :)


                                            I liked few of their songs but stopped listening to them out of principle because they were vocal about being against marriage equality in the 2013 referendum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_constitutional_referendum,_2013


                                            I know a person in real life who said something similar and does not listen to the band anymore, so your comments intrigued me. I even checked to see if you are her, but then I saw that you cannot possibly be her.Funny...


                                            I know about that, but still - their songs are beautiful. Prljavo Kazalište has also beautiful songs, but I really don't like any of the band members.


                                            they are definitely not rarity here are some of my favorites: http://lyricstranslate.com/en/translations/16/0/none/none/Nilson


                                            What's interesting, you'll notice most of those songs (like 90%) are about love. It's always interesting how English bands have various topics, whereas most Croatian songs are more of the same about love. It becomes boring after a while, really.


                                            Love is never boring! If you think so, I feel pity for you!


                                            No, I think songs about love become boring after a while. Just like if you ate the same meal over and over again you'd be sick of it after a while.


                                            Also, Moja štikla is your favourite? You can't be serious...


                                            Of all the songs, you saw that one?


                                            Thanks, I really enjoyed the Nina Kraljić's song :)


                                            Croatian folk song in The Witcher 3


                                            Bura mi je ziparinka bila, Zipjuć me je va morje stavjala. Mornari me va mrižu lovili Prodali me biloj Katarini. x2

                                            Oj, divojko, jabuko rumena, Parim da te, ma, naranča rodila. Nije mene naranča rodila, Za goru me je mat moja rodila.

                                            Katarina dobra žena bila Ka je mene ma bilu odgojila.

                                            Z bilim kruhom i crljenim vinom.x2

                                            translation (some words are very dialectal, as in, I, as a native speaker, don't know what they mean, so I'm gonna guess what they meant to say):

                                            Bora was my wet nurse Rocking me, she put me in the sea The sailors caught me in the net They sold me to white Katarina

                                            Oi, girl, you rosy apple, It seems to me that you were born by an orange I wasn't born from an orange, Beyond the mountain my mother gave birth to me

                                            Katarina was a good wife Which raised, oh, the white me

                                            On white bread and red wine.x2


                                            I would like to learn Croatian!


                                            Yeah they should make either Croatian or Serbian. Because if you do one than it works for the rest.


                                            I can see there are ideas that suggest the integration of the Croatian and the Serbian course into a Serbo-Croatian course. I am against it. I have to say that it is nothing political, but simply because I think that the idea is a complete nonsense. Despite all the similarities, Croatian and Serbian are two separate (living) languages. It's important to keep the social component of a language in mind, the component which allows the people of Serbia and Croatia to identify themselves as Serbians, that is, Croats. Furthermore, that component allows them to identify the language they're speaking as their own - Serbian, that is, Croatian. The integration of those two makes as much sense as the integration of Swedish and Norwegian, perhaps. Lastly, the languages have far too many vocabulary, grammar and orthography differences to be integrated into one course. I am willing to contribute to a Croatian language course, but no, I won't contribute to a Serbo-Croatian concept course.


                                            This user, meSanti, said it perfectly.

                                            "To call Serbian and Croatian different languages just because "some" words are not the same makes no sense whatsoever. Following that exact same logic, the people from England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, USA, Canada, South Africa, Australia, etc, etc they all speak different languages. The same goes for the 20 countries where Spanish is an official language, they all speak different languages. It's absurd. The root of the "Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian are different languages" is purely political and has no basis in linguistics. They are simply dialects of the same language, i.e. varieties of a language that is a characteristic of a particular group of the language's speakers. Regardless of the name you wish to use, it would a waste of resources to create 2 or 3 separate courses, one for each dialect of the same language."

                                            So your statement was purely political whether stated consciously or not.


                                            ❤❤❤?! Why was my comment deleted?!


                                            What was your comment?

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                                              I don't speak it. However, I would love to learn it. This course should be created. the technology is perfect. Croatian has it's roots in Czechoslovakian language historically. If you know Czech, you can pretty much carry over to Croatian.


                                              I am also very much wiling to make it :)


                                              If you want to make this happen, do the following: 1. give this thread a lingot or 10 or a 100 2. vote up this thread 3. write a comment in the thread 4. go here: https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply scroll to the bottom of the languages, and pick "Enter Other" and enter Croatian. Then write a passionate plea as to why Croatian should be included and how awesome your contributions will be. Thanks!


                                              I leveled up to level 8 in Spanish, but I heard that Czech is similar to Croatian, but not the same, lets try to get moderators to see this and keep fighting to get Croatian on Duolingo!


                                              please do it,my girlfiend is spanish-engish speaking and i really need it LOL


                                              Has this been created?


                                              I'm starting to lose hope in this course. This discussion is over two years old, and many people have claimed to apply for the incubator, but it seems that it's not going to be a thing anytime soon. I am very interested in learning Croatian, and there aren't that many recourses out there. It would mean the world to me if Croatian got a course.


                                              How come you're so interested in learning Croatian, I'm curious? :) Indeed, there aren't that many resources for learning Croatian and most that exist aren't even correct (for example, even Memrise's Croatian courses have a lot of flaws). There's a Croatian course on Mondly and that one is the best out there by far. Maybe it's not fair to promote another app on Duolingo, but what can one do... :D So...here's their website https://www.mondlylanguages.com, and also Android and iPhone apps are available. If you need any help or want someone to practice conversation with, just contact me on my profile feed. :)


                                              this is a stupid question but...where can I find the Croatian course on Mondly? I cannot find it :(


                                              I was taking a Croatian course for English speakers, I know it's also available for Italian and Spanish speakers (I haven't checked the availability for other languages). On the home screen, you should be given a choice: "I speak __", "I want to learn ____", from there you should be able to choose that you want to learn Croatian.


                                              that is exactly what I did :( ok, I'll check another time... hvala <3


                                              I don't know, it worked for me. :( Hope you make it! :) Nema na čemu :) <3


                                              It's there! I just started. For some reason I missed it the first time I went through the list. Check again!


                                              @mstanwyck I don't remember this happened to me on the mobile (android) app, but I've recently started the course again, from zero via desktop version, and didn't get very far. After only a few lessons they asked me to pay to practice further. :( I will try to go through some Memrise courses again, and see if there's anything good there! I'll let you all know if I succeed! Fingers crossed! :D :)


                                              Why don't you like the course on memrise? Are there many mistakes? Mondly is not free right? I wanted to learn some basics for the holidays


                                              Some of us are interested for travel purposes, for me if I got a chance to meet my all-time Chicago Bulls player, who happens to be Croatian, I will want to be able to speak a little bit of Croatian to him.


                                              I would also love to learn Croatian on Duolingo. But if it is really so far away to come, I can be interested in those other Apps mentioned here in the discussion. Thank you guys for all the help!


                                              anyone here croatian from preko or olib


                                              My husband is from Olib!


                                              Je l' sa štokavskim ili čakavskim narečjem?


                                              Is this debate still alive? I’m British , married to a Croatian and planning to have kids. So I need to learn right? Otherwise my kids will speak a language that I can only swear in and count to ten. If Duolingo can do this that would be magic. Or perhaps there is another “ learn Croatian “ app I don’t know about ?


                                              would be great !


                                              Eagerly waiting for a Croatian course on duolingo as well.


                                              I was born in the UK to Croatian parents, I learnt Croatian alongside English, but because I hardly ever speak Croatian aside from at home it's gotten rusty...to be given a chance to build on my second language would be lovely, it would be such a shame to forget how to speak it.


                                              Found this "Straw Poll" link for Languages to develop in 2019 but it was put up 8 months ago and is probably finished --can't tell for sure. Croatian was listed but only got around 275 votes--3%. How do we find the next poll sooner so we can all vote? https://www.strawpoll.me/16141213


                                              I wish Croation was available on Duolingo. One of my best friends speaks it fluently and I want to be able to speak to her, also it would be great for me to learn it as I want to travel there one day.


                                              I would love to learn Croatian here at Duolingo!


                                              I would love a Croatian course. I'm catalan, i malo govorim hrvatski jezik, ali želim naučiti vrlo dobro hrvatski jezik


                                              Fabian, a great idea but rather than create a group, how about we all post on Duolingo's own facebook page to try and get an answer? https://www.facebook.com/duolingo/


                                              That’s a great idea. In wtsp, we could plan everything


                                              I want to find a pace where I can learn english ,croatian


                                              I NEED TO LEARN CROATIAN PLEASE DUO


                                              While we wait for Duolingo to add it you can learn Croatian via Drops app or Clozemaster


                                              I would really love to have a Croatian course! I fail to see why there isn't a course although so many people want to have it :/


                                              Duolingo is lazy... :(


                                              I applied as a contributor to make the course Croatian for English speakers. Hopefully duolingo team decides to make the course in the near future.


                                              Good name, Ivan. :)


                                              Come on Duolingo, por favor, xie xie, molim can you approve a English to Croatian course. Many people around the world need it to keep in contact with our heritage. It will work so well too because the alphabets are very similar.


                                              Definitely would appreciate this course


                                              Please make a Croatian course !!!


                                              I would be so helpful to have Croatian on here, its so hard to find anywhere to learn.


                                              I studied Serbo-Croatian many years ago when the dialects were politically combined. We used ekavian and ijekavian dialects and learned in both Latin and Cyrillic script. I've tried to learn from U.S. Goverment language course books, but it's very tedious. If Duolingo offered a parallel Serbian/Croatian course, with the option to use Latin or Cyrillic script and pointing out major differences between the two languages (the 'jat' difference, the word for bread!, etc.), I would love it.


                                              Is Duolingo going to have Croatian as a language to learn?


                                              I would love to learn Croatian with Duolingo. Will it ever happen?


                                              It’s frustrating that clearly there is a demand for Croatian for English speakers on the app - and has been for years and nothing has been done to add the language to the platform


                                              We have applied to help add Croatian to Duolingo and we have teachers from the Boston Croatian School who are volunteering to make this course. Let's get Croatian added!


                                              I'd love to learn croatian, I'm from Peru and I don't know why but I love croatian language, I even started chatting with people from there when I was a Kid, I learnt some words but nothing fluent but at least I got to practice my english :), so good luck with this course, I can't wait to see Croatian in the incubator! Bendiciones :)


                                              Hola, you are lucky to have had some practice at least. I also love the look and sound of the Croatian language and am starting to do a little research already, when I have time after all my other studies. Hope you come back to Duolingo and this forum.


                                              I would love to have it.

                                              As a native speaker, but who left Croatia at an early age, I know the language instinctively but am often lacking some vocabulary. I was just chatting with my mother and often have to use English or French words, when speaking or writing, to describe more complex concepts.

                                              It would be great if I could practice regularly!


                                              For you, I think that the course would be very helpful. You could use it as a tool for remembering some forgotten basics. Also you could build upon the already existing knowledge.


                                              In my childhood, I was speaking it at home and I used to go back to Croatia every summer for 2 months, but since I left Europe a while ago, it's getting difficult to keep up. Last time I went to Croatia, a couple of years ago, I was shocked by how much I was choking on every other word. Fortunately it comes back quickly.

                                              I'll be happy when Duolingo gets it and grateful to the people dedicating their time to make it happen. :)


                                              Honestly, I'm interested to hear your Croatian! If you have some time once we could talk over skype. You can find me on Youtube (Learn Croatian / Grgo) or on Facebook.


                                              I am a Croat, but was raised English. I would love the opportunity to not only vaguely understand, but fluently converse in hrvatski. I have so many friends that are croatian, serbian, and bosnian, but I can only really nod along! I have to learn 4 other languages for work, so Duo would be very convenient to also have hrvatski


                                              if you'd like, we can have a language exchange, I'll gladly help you with Croatian, I don't need too much help with my English anyway


                                              I am a native speaker of Croatian and would love to contribute!


                                              That's great! You can apply for incubator. http://incubator.duolingo.com/


                                              As one user, Druden, stated, "I feel like there is tension in the incubator as far as which language (Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian/ Montenegrin) to teach. I hope the Duolingo enthusiasts from the four former Yugoslav republics can put their political differences aside and let the artist formerly known as Serbo-Croatian stand up! I'd like to start reading Milorad Pavic, so for that reason I'm looking forward to learning Serbian!"

                                              Thank you so much. I totally agree with you. If all the Duo users and enthusiasts were to merge together and collaborate on putting the technical, political terminology of the language aside, it would become popular, easier to contribute, and more likely to go into incubator. In my opinion, I would hate to see people make a big fuss on what the language should be called (such as Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Montenegrin). I think a better, fair way to title this language can be (Serbo-Croat-Bosnian or Yugoslavic or Slavic) which I prefer since it correlates to all four sub-dialect. One issue is, however, what alphabets will it be in. Majority of Croatia, Bosnia use Latin alphabet while Majority of Serbia uses Cyrillic alphabet. I understand this should be a conflict of interest. Aside from the alphabet question, I believe there should be no other conflicts of interest. Again, my main point here is that they should be all be merged together as one language rather than separate sub-dialect languages.. They may all be different dialects, but it doesn't make it a different language. All the dialects could be included as there is always more than one way to say something. Can't wait for this to be solved and done. GO SLAVIC. HAJMO SLAVIC.

                                              Another user, meSanti, stated this below perfectly so don't give those "It's two different language" excuses. No where is that ever stated from a unbiased, linguistic viewpoint. You only see these excuses from biased, and purely political viewpoints.

                                              To call Serbian and Croatian different languages just because "some" words are not the same makes no sense whatsoever. Following that exact same logic, the people from England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, USA, Canada, South Africa, Australia, etc, etc they all speak different languages. The same goes for the 20 countries where Spanish is an official language, they all speak different languages. It's absurd. The root of the "Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian are different languages" is purely political and has no basis in linguistics. They are simply dialects of the same language, i.e. varieties of a language that is a characteristic of a particular group of the language's speakers. Regardless of the name you wish to use, it would a waste of resources to create 2 or 3 separate courses, one for each dialect of the same language.


                                              Politics and how is a language, or how are the languages called - that is not the real issue. The thing is - you can't make a Serbo-Croatian course, just like you can't make a Catalan-Spanish Course or American-British-Australian English course. Also, people who think only alphabets and e/ije/je are what makes difference between those languages/dialects are very wrong. Duolingo has a Brazilian Portuguese as an individual course, so I don't think it's likely that they want to merge Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin. I as a Croatian have nothing against Serbs or Serbian language, it's just that even if we agree that Serbian and Croatian are one language - Serbo-Croatian, we also have to agree that there is no such thing as spoken/written Serbo-Croatian. Each person, Serb or Croat, uses just one version - Serbian OR Croatian, so merging doesn't make sense. Serbs will say "hljeb", Croatis will say "kruh", both of them are "bread". Serbs will say "pantalone", Croats will say "hlače", both are "pants". Serbs will say "hoću da igram", Croats will say "hoću/želim plesati", meaning - "I want to dance". When Croats say "hoću/želim igrati", they are saying that they want to play (a game), not dance. I would just like for everyone to stop thinking about politics and making their judgment based of political divisions. We are all here to learn languages and we should do more research on real differences between the languages/dialects and then decide based on them. I personally think Serbo-Croatian is too much trouble and doesn't make any sense. I have no vision of how should such a course look like, so logically, I'm not feeling capable of making such a course.


                                              While I understand each region has their own dialect and way of saying things, I agree that it can be very difficult to merge them all. However, I still believe that it is possible. Again, you are using terrible examples to compare. Catalan-Spanish is not a thing as Catalan is an entirely different language separate from Spanish. They are also, ethnically, different. And as with English (USA/UK/Australia), we don't have this issue. While each speak with a different dialect, it is still accepted and acknowledge as ONE LANGUAGE and nothing is politicized at all in this language. Brazilian Portuguese and Portugal Portuguese may be two different dialects, but again are still ONE language. I disagree with you, but I admire your enthusiasm for language learning and linguistics.


                                              I used those examples on purpose. To you Catalan-Spanish is not a thing, and for many people Serbo-Croatian is not a thing. You might not agree with them, but each to their own. English I used because you claim that Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin should be merged in one course because they're one language, I'm just pointing out that no one does that with different dialects of English. If no one is trying to or even wants to merge different dialects of English into one course, then why is it sooooo important with Serbian, Croatian, Montenegrin and Bosnian?


                                              @Hovhannes16: You're just completely missing the point. Aside with obvious miss in naming a part of the basis of difference between Catalan and Spanish an etnical one (as if Croats and Serbs actually are of the same ethnicity. But then again, whence do we derive these terms? Politics? Right, hh) The point is, nagging about those differences being simply political while at the same time claiming it is possible to really create a Serbo-Croatian course is actually jumping in one's own mouth because it is precisely the so-called Serbo-Croatian that's a political term. Because - as Euterpa clearly put it - no one ever spoke that language. Period. It was just an illusion, a product of certain agendas, etc. And I am saying this as someone who would (knowing about diasystem, continuum, etc.) for general purposes basically say that Croatian, Serbian, etc. are the same language. Lemme tell you what's ignorant: naming those languages of which we're talking about "Slavic" as if there's isn't a distinction (pretty big one) between e.g. Polish and Czech on one hand and Croatian and Serbian, on the other hand. The former are of Northern Slavic group, the latter of "South Slavic", one almost totally unintelligible to one another. So what we get here is that you pretty much don't know what you're talking about. Right, English, tell 'em!


                                              @Seeker20 If you say so, then I can be very political and say "I speak American, British, and Australian" for English, In Spanish, I speak over 20 languages that "like" Spanish, but different. I speak Portuguese AND Brazilian. Oh and also, I don't just speak German, I also speak Austrian and Swiss. Wow. I speak almost 30+ languages. You know what I mean?

                                              I could say all that what I wrote above all I want. But everyone, including you, should know that this is not true nor correct in linguistic terms. I hope you understood my point.


                                              Yes, I get your point. You amaze me. Just read what I've said.


                                              Lighten up Seeker. You are right that Serbo-Croatian in that it was never a living linguistic entity. Yes, the correct terminology is not Serbo-Croatian. I believe it would work as CCS, as you mentioned, or "Slavic, South Slavic, or Yugoslavic". I am not for specifically merging these two as Serbo-Croat, but even this incorrect term is better than 4 separate "languages" term as Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Montenegrin. Also, I enjoyed reading your points written above. Take care.


                                              Seeker. Must be that anglosaxon-superiority-and the-rest-of-the-world-inferiority complex. I don't what that is about, but ok. I did read what you said. There are distinctions between Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, but those are dialect distinctions, not distinctions as a different language. I agree Serbo-Croatian was created as a political term. I believe the correct terminology, void of politics and solely linguistic, would be "Yugoslavic" or Slavic or something. Bosnian was not a language back then, Bosnian was not even an ethnicity in the 19th century. But now, they are Muslims (which is now considered as a ethnicity in Bosnia & Herzegovina). I find Muslim as a ethnicity very laughable. The majority of the population there were Serbs/Croats and converted to Islam due to Ottoman influence. Maybe in another 100 years, there might be more artificial languages in the former Yugoslavic nations. People need to look back to the origin. Yes, it is possible that over time, hundreds of years, they may break away and become separate. But this is not in South Slavic. How is it that a Serb/Croat/Bosnian/Montenegrin all understand each other very well without any trouble? The answer is obvious.


                                              Okay, I'll sum it up for you, Hovhannes16: First, I never tried to disproof your point that Croats, Serbs, etc. don't understand each other - as the matter of fact, I just happen to claim it myself, as you can read it in my previous posts. All I'm saying (that's the second point) - and that's what you previously failed to understand, although now claiming that you know that's so - is that Serbo-Croatian was never a living linguistic entity, i.e. no one ever spoke it, so therefore it is a fail to insist on making the same named course. You cannot simply merge by mere liking of aspects. On Duo we have Spanish spoken in Mexico, Portuguese spoken in Brazil, etc. An individual spoke Croatian or Serbian. Therefore, we could have - to roughly put it - "Central South Slavic spoken in Croatia" or "CSS spoken in Serbia", but not a mix of the two. Voila. I entered this discussion hoping everyone's humble enough to admit their own mistakes, but, okay... Now say whatever you want to, I'm outta here. Farewell.


                                              as armenian yaaassss!!!


                                              Hi, are you a native speaker too? If you have already applied, have you received any response? I received an email in which they told me that I'll be informed once the incubator phase for Croatian starts :) I have high hopes, tbh. Maybe it'll start soon.


                                              I would love it too.I am hungarian, and we often go to Croatia in the summer break.They only speak some basic german, not even english, so it would be good to speak some croatian.I hope someday we can learn Croatian on duolingo!


                                              5 years ago? time to necro


                                              I hope that Croatian for English speakers will become reality. Right now, my exposure is very limited, just listening to Croatian music and Toni Kukoc Croatian interviews.


                                              Any update on this? Croatian/Serbian duolingo would Be much appreciated!!


                                              I would love a Croatian course. I speak English but understand pronunciation and some basic vocabulary words.


                                              I would love a croatian course!


                                              I would love to learn Croatian. Just got back from a ten day trip.


                                              I would love it. I have a wonderful coworker friend who comes from Croatia


                                              Please Duolingo crew; Croatian for English speakers. Many thanks!! mwah mwah


                                              I would certainly sign-up for this. I have been to Croatia many times (my first real foreign holiday was to Istria, then part of Jugoslavia) and I would like to be able to learn and practise Croatian. Few locals speak much English, and I often have to use my rudimentary German, which I still struggle with.


                                              I would love to. I love Croatia, last 2 years I spend summer there and I would like to continue, so would be perfect, to teach their language on Duolingo


                                              I'd love to see Croatian on Duolingo! My grandmother only speaks Croatian and I can only understand/speak a little. It's a sad thing, all of us granddaughters in Australia can't have any proper conversations with her and she lives here in Australia with us. I've tried learning from my mum, but with how busy life is every time we've tried it hasn't worked. Duolingo would work though! It's designed to!


                                              I am very interested in learning Croatian!


                                              I want to learn it since high school


                                              Guys. What do you think if we create a WhatsApp Group or Facebook group in order to plan to get Duolingos attention. How? We could ALL comment its last post about something non stop in the same time about the wish to create an Croatian language course. We could even get the attention of other users and may the support us with its comments. What do you think? Posting into this discussion has not changed anything at all so far so we have to use other ways. +51 / 933 322 719. It is my whatsapp number. Text me if you are interested! :)


                                              This is a great idea Fabian but rather than create a group, how about we all post on Duolingo's own facebook page? https://www.facebook.com/duolingo/


                                              Yes please! Definitely! Have been waiting for it for ages!


                                              guuuuyssss! let's do it!


                                              Another vote for Croatian course here. I visited Croatia several times, and I'm in love with that country. And the language is beautiful too, both melodic and sounding quite old-style to a Russian ear. Since I am a native Russian speaker and I am learning Czech (living in Czech republic), I consider learning Croatian a hilarious addition to my Slavic language arsenal. So please add it at last. Thanks!


                                              Great idea. The quicker the better!


                                              Hello! What better time to contribute to the Duolingo society than while in #Corona quarantine :) I'm a native Croatian and would love to do it!


                                              If you have the possibility to apply, do it!!! You need to grab their attention!!


                                              Dobar Dan! If you haven’t applied yourself to manage a Croatian/Serbian/Bosnian/Yugoslavian course, DO IT PLEASE NOW. It’s the perfect time to grab their attention. If you have already applied yourself, do it again. Even if you have to make a second duolingo account. We need to show them that so many users wanna learn the beautiful language!! Let’s go guuuuys!!!!


                                              Haha, love your enthusiasm! I applied..now waiting for the reply! :)


                                              Thank u so much!! Hvala lijepa :)


                                              I am calling to all Serbs,Croats and Bosnians which can speak English well.Please make your language course to duolingo.There are lots of idiotic languages in duolingo but Serbian,Croatian and Bosnian are absent.I know that these languages are almost same but I tried to report this situation much many people in Balkans.I'm sure there are many people waiting for your language course to be opened.

                                              Hvala i pozdravi iz Turske!


                                              If resources can be allocated for high valerian, Klingon, latin, and esperanto, which are not living languages, then resources for Croatian and Serbian can be found.


                                              Esperanto is a living language. To describe it as anything but is absurd.


                                              I would be totally interested in the course if someone is willing to make it!


                                              I started learning Croatian on an application called Mondly but I would prefer to learn it on Duolingo. I wintered in Opatija and I'll be back this summer for the third time.


                                              Hey everyone! I'm a native speaker of Naš Jezik /Наш Језик (Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian) and a child of the diaspora. From reading through these forums, I’ve gathered that there is some confusion about how to make a language course for this language (family). I’d like to break this down & show how this project is indeed viable. I start by discussing linguistic differences, then give some example phrases, and end by making a plea for the unified teaching of my mother tongue.

                                              First: What to call it? Well, Naš/Наш means "our's" as in "our language" and can be considered an endonym for all the dialects therein. So there you have your language name.

                                              Now, how to deal with the dialectical differences? There are three main distinctions here: the vowel dialect, the alphabet, and dialectical vocabulary.

                                              1) Vowel dialect: An easy fix! There are two main dialects with different vowel forms: Ekavski and Ijekavski. The course can again simply ask you which you’d like to learn. By my estimate, about 30% of words will need to be coded to either Ijekavski/Ekavski. 2) Alphabet: a super easy fix! The course can simply have a Cyrillic (ћ) version & a Latin (L) version, which you choose when starting the course. In terms of coding, this is easy too. 3) Dialectical vocabulary/grammar: the easiest fix of all! As I see it, the course could simply specify at the end of each word which dialects it corresponds to (with blank meaning all dialects). Textbooks do this by simply adding B/H/S or Б/Х/С at the end of certain words, and agreed upon categorization of words (by my estimate, only about 10% of words differ). A user could also choose which vocab they’d like to learn (but I would recommend all three!).

                                              Now, one must recognize that these three variables often cluster in specific dialects. But there are always exceptions to all of these rules! Let me show you: - Bosnian may often be thought of as: latin script, ijekavski vowels, + bosnian vocab, but many people understand and use serbian/croatian words as well! - Serbian may often be thought of as: cyrillic script, ekavski vowels, + serbian vocab, but many young people write in latin script! - Croatian may often be thought of as: latin script, ijekavski, + croatian vocab, though many are versed in bosnian/serbian vocab as well!

                                              You or other native speakers might be thinking, “Wait! Aren’t there combinations that don’t exist?” My answer to you is: for each combination, there is a community that exists (even if that looks strange to some!). Duolingo may clue speakers into the most common combinations for each dialect [I give 5 iterations below].

                                              Here is an example of how Duolingo could format the course: Welcome to Naš Jezik/Наш Језик! (Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian | Bosanski/Hrvatski/Srpski | Босански/Хрватски/Српски) Do you prefer: Ekavski (Serbian standard) OR Ijekavski (Bosnian/Croatian) standard? Do you prefer: Latinica (Bosnian/Croatian [and Serbian] standard) OR ћирилица (Serbian [and Bosnian] standard)? Do you prefer: Bosnian, Croatian, or Serbian vocabulary & grammar? (Note: native speakers often know all three, although they may prefer using one.)

                                              Sample sentence (“The child is eating bread”) in what I believe are the 5 most common combinations used in the world today (Vowels, Script, Vocab):

                                              Дете хлеб хлеб (Б/С) [E, ћ, Б/С] < “Serbian” [most common]

                                              Dete jede hleb [E, L, B/S] < “Serbian” [all Serbians learn to read/write in latin]

                                              Dijete jede hljeb (B/S) [I, L, B/S] < “Bosnian” [most common]

                                              Dijete jede kruh (H) [I, L, H] < “Bosnian” [also very common]

                                              Dijete jede kruh (H) [I, L, H] < “Croatian” [most common]

                                              This needn't be contentious, and would be a great way for Duolingo to accept other languages in which dialects and differences exist. This approach, in my humble opinion, is much better than dividing the languages across nationalistic lines, instead opting for their cultural and linguistic categorization. There will be people who disagree with this approach, but I argue that these people are nationalists hoping to perpetuate arbitrary distinctions that lead to prejudice. It is up to the new generation of speakers (and learners) to promote the inherent unity of these languages.

                                              There are many skilled linguists, language schools, and a huge community of potential contributors all around the world for Naš Jezik/Наш Језик. I truly hope that Duolingo and others read this post and consider moving this to the incubator. It would mean so much to me and many others. I know that many would like to contribute (myself included)!


                                              Ako pričate Naš i Engleski, molim vas ispunite ovaj formular za "Naš Jezik": Ако причате Наш и Енглески, молим вас испуните овај формулар за "Наш Језик": https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply


                                              Love this explanation! Thank you!!


                                              Thanks for the info I am very much for having Croatian being added to Duolingo but wh