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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

FINISHED GERMAN TREE TODAY

I somehow expected confetti or something to pop up on the screen but no such luck. For those of you that are interested, it took me 1.5 years with moderate daily effort but occasional long breaks of no activity when life took over. For most of the time it was my main source of German learning.

Funny story this whole German learning thing, as my kid likes to joke: "Mom learned German so that D's (my Swiss partner) mom would like her, but she didn't".

Sadly true but also VERY funny, and now I am functional in German (if not in Swiss), so there is a great silver lining. :)

Thank you Duolingo for this great resource, much appreciated.

October 10, 2019

90 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fischenGeil

Congrats man.
I just can't bring myself to finish it. It's not that I am lazy, but I know German already (C level). The problem I have with it is that the sentences are lame, and the grammar is way too basic for the 140 something lessons there are. I would expect it to get more complex than that. But it holds steady at the A1/A2 level thru-out. A lot of borrowed words are favorited over German ones. The lack of alternate answers on some of the questions annoying. There are a ton of sentences I said to myself, there is just no way I would write it like this. The grammar is too bare, too clean, too basic, and so is the vocab. I'm thinking to myself, anyone who relies 100% on this to speak German is going to sound like a robot.
your learning starts after Duo. If you are serious enough to keep going. Take a lingot in the mean time.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Boris153

You wrote "The lack of alternate answers on some of the questions annoying. "

Exactly. That is something that annoys me in the Dutch tree. "We have almost no water." is right but I'd rather say "We are almost out of water." and it is wrong...........


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slamRN

Boris - Those two sentences seem to convey mean different meanings. The second sentence implies that you will be lacking something that you need. Such as: We are almost out of water and need to get more.

The first sentence could simply be an observation. For example: We live in the Sahara desert and we have almost no water.

So what do you think of this observation?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Boris153

Thanks. Interesting to see how different other people understand the same sentence. Another problem for me as a german native speaker is that in other languages "one" and "a" is not the same. "I need a minute." is wrong when "I need one minute." is correct.

In german both is "Ich brauche eine Minute." and my German brain cant figure out the difference :D

I guess you should not take Duolingo too serious.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Drdhk

Agree, but I would add that in oral communication the difference is expressed by stress. And some other clues, which are hard to pick up. "Ich brauch noch ne Minute" would be translated as "I need a minute" whereas "Ich brauche noch EINE Minute" (with stress on "eine") would be translated as "I need one minute". But these differences won't be made in DL.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andrew166439

Honestly, to anybody wanting to read, write and speak German, then Duolingo isn't ever going to cut it on its own. I've found watching television in German, listening to German radio and reading German news is awesome for furthering language skills and seeing grammar and vocabulary used by a native.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eu_ema

Yes, you right. With english is so also. To learn with Duolingo isn't ever suffice for to speak english and for to understand what other people speak in english. I losted much time until understood this.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slamRN

You do know that zberencsi is a woman?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Haha does not matter, the sentiment was sweet. I prefer gender-neutral languages like Hungarian anyway. But yes, correct :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Huey616889

"A lot of borrowed words are favorited over German ones." Yes, this is very frustrating. I especially hate Duo's obsession with 'Kollege' when a perfect native germanic synonym exists. They do this a lot.

I'll be finishing the tree by December. I kind of want to give up, but it's a learning goal I set for myself and I've come too far now to abandon it. Overall I think Duo has been a good resource, but the simplistic grammar, short sentences, and little things like focusing on strange vocab areas really weigh it down.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hermesianax

So what's the native germanic synonym to Kollege? And even though a native alternative might exist in German (or any language for that matter), the non-native word might simply be more commonly used or less old fashioned.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Thanks for the encouragement. I tested into a B2 online course which I just started this week, so the sky's the limit. Or C2. We'll see :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MrAaronBurr

Awesome to know. I have noticed everything there is SUPER basic from the English course, which is very simple. I'm gonna go foward with my learning


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Yes, keep going! I tested into a B2 online course just as I was finishing up here. Yes, a lot of the learning is basic, but the effort required is also not great. And from one summer to the next, all of a sudden all the signs in Basel were making sense now :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IAmYourAlley

Pretty sure Duolingo is more about word learning than Grammar, its a form of the Spaced Repetition idea going around. Gives you a basis in Grammar though, which is appreciated.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Agnesness

. .. .. . . . . . . .... . ... . . ... ..;;:;;::;;:;;;;::;;;;;;;;";:.;.;; Well done! Excellent job and I made you confetti!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Thanks for the confetti! Love it. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vu7xENbj

Gratuliere Sie für diesen Erfolg!

Hear the trumpets "Tadaaaah!" which provide acoustic confetti!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Acoustic confetti, you are the best!!!! Thanks!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/quasau

Gratuliere Ihnen.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zia177448

Herzlichen Glückwunsch!

Wichtig ist, wie viel du gelernt hast, nicht dass eine grüne Eule Konfetti wirft oder deine Schwiegermutter (oder wie man sie auch nennen will) glücklich ist!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Aber ich mag Konfetti von einer Grunen Eule. :) Die Schwigermutter ist hoffnungslos. Thanks for the encouragement, much appreciated.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LokiOdinson4

Glückwunsch an Sie


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MrAaronBurr

Gut gemacht mein Freund!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BisSpaeterPeter

Congratulations and all the confetti you might want / need / like.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Lol moving to English, you make it sound like there may possible be a difference between want/need/like??? :) Thanks for the virtual confetti. Take some lingots in return. And since you look like a language guy here is a suggestion: take up Hungarian for a challenge. Non-indoeuropean, gender neutral, loads of fun to be had.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Thanks, best wishes yourself.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hanspersson

Gut gemacht! Jetzt die DE->EN Kurse?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vu7xENbj

He just asks if now you will start the reverse tree, the course ENglish from DEutsch.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Lol OK, I get the arrow direction thank you, but is that really a thing? Have people done it and found it useful? What does it add to your body of knowledge? If you have done it, please share.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slamRN

Yes, it is a good thing to do the reverse tree because they assume you know German so you get more complicated German in there. Don't worry about some of the sentences they ask you to type in English from audio - those are only a few.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Thanks for the explanation.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EmmaMaryEl

Duolingo really should provide us with a kind of simple certificate that you can download upon completion of an entire language, given all the effort it takes. I can’t imagine it would require much effort on their part to arrange that. It would be a nice touch.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MercyVeer

That would be nice


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Yes, why not? Good luck!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Boris153

Glückwunsch. Jetzt kennst du die Grundlagen. Die meiste Arbeit liegt aber noch vor dir. Wünsche dir viel Erfolg dabei, nun richtig die Sprache zu lernen (außerhalb von Duolingo).

Wenn du nach viel harter Arbeit irgendwann Deutsch kannst, kommst du vielleicht in 2 oder 3 Jahren für die Grundkenntnisse der nächsten Sprache zurück.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Not sure what the point of a comment like this is. You cannot tell from a person's Duolingo profile what languages they already speak -- I happen to know a couple at native-like proficiency and a couple others at an intermediate-advanced level. Yes, there is a long way for me to go in German, but I am still excited because this is the first language I have added in a while. We should encourage each other.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slamRN

Großartige Leistung - du hast bis zum Ende des deutschen Baumes durchgehalten!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jenny449433

Wooowww!!!!!!!! Good Job Man!!!!! I'm just wondering how. From where I am right now that seems just a little impossible.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Just put one foot in front of the other. If you lose a streak or need to take a break, don't feel pressured to be hard-core, just come back and pick it up again. Sending best wishes, encouragment, and some lingots :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jenny449433

Thanks!!!!!! And good luck to you!!!!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AkruuV2

Congratulations


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Thanks, I appreciate it. Good luck yourself.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mwbrand1

Herzlichen Glückwunsch!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mrcl.

Good job! Congratulations!!!!!!!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Thanks, I appreciate it :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MercyVeer

Congrats! I'm not yet there, so this is very encouraging to hear someone finished it!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

That is the reason why I posted, to encourage the others. Back when I started it certainly seemed daunting, yet here we are. Just put one foot in front of the other. If you lose a streak or need to take a break, don't feel pressured to be hard-core, but come back and pick it up again. Sending best wishes, encouragment, and some lingots :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IAmYourAlley

Congratulations! Can I ask, how good is your German now, and how many words have you learnt?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

I just checked for you, my Duolingo word count is 2,900 words. But I did pick some unaccounted vocab on the outside as well, especially crazy Schwyzerdütsch. :) I tested into a B2 level online course now, this should take me to the next level. Right now I am happy enough being able to get around when visiting, follow the flow of conversations even if I cannot really participate yet, and being able to get/provide basic info. I can read websites, watch easy videos, read the news etc. And it keeps getting better. Hope that helps, good luck to you :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Oh and I would also like to specifically thank Duolingo for the sentence:

Meine Ente ist größer als deine.

It wasn't until I looked at my typed response that I realized what I had just written. Still laughing.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Drdhk

Ich kenne den Satz nicht, aber vielleicht ist hier ein Wortspiel versteckt. "Ente" kann auch ein Auto (Citroen 2CV) bezeichnen.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

God I hope they meant it :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/David937367

Very interested in what you consider functional German. I think I am on level 20, been at this about a year and feel more rudimentary. I spend about 30 minutes a day on average with Duolingo and add about an hour a day listening to audio language learning as well in my daily commute.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Well I did also (somewhat unexpectedly for myself) test into a B2 course. "Functional" as in all the signs and written communication in general makes sense, I can follow the flow of conversations, and acquire/provide basic information.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/David937367

That sounds promising, Thanks. I should be done with my tree in about 6-7 months and I guess I will see for myself.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Todd368975

Congratulations!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/John-_-Williams

Good job! I'm still far away.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Drdhk

Here's two lingots. Consider them confetti. As a matter of fact, I already have started wondering what I will do when I am where you are now. It seems clear that I'll need regular conversation in my target language (Italian), but it's also clear that this will be quite basic and slow for any conversation partner. Any ideas anyone. Jetzt, wo ich das geschrieben habe, fällt mir ein, dass ich das auch auf deutsch hätte tun können. Esprit d'escalier, they call it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

What I am doing next is a B2 online course. Weekly lectures and assignments. I was pleasantly sursprised to test into that course fairly easily and also to be able to follow the first 45-minute lecture of grammar and vocabulary. Six months of this will get me to the next level. Thanks for the confetti! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/F5oTh

Congratulations zberencsi, and thanks for sharing your story on why you decided to do it and how you experienced it. I have only just started, but looking forward to surprising my German-speaking sister-in-law one day. I am finding it easier than Greek, actually. I think Duolingo is a great place to get a few words and basic understanding under your belt, and you can do just a bite-size chunk if it is a busy day. I find the latter helps me stay on track. If I decide to do a course later, I will hopefully be in a position to get a whole lot more value for money out of the teacher.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

I think that is a great motivation and I agree with everything you said. Good luck on your journey, it will be a very sweet surprise for her :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/-Embii-

Congratulations! Its amazing to hear about people finishing the courses and enjoying them, a shame about the confetti though.

I've recently started learning German on a few apps and things as my bf annoyingly speaks 3 languages (English, Lithuanian, and German) since Lithuanian isn't really available to learn online. German it was. Been enjoying it too so far!

anyway its amazing to hear that you smashed the tree and made it through, that tree is really no joke 0.0
congratulations once again!
text confetti <";';';';'.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Thank you! I think English to German really suits the Duolingo framework well since the languages are relatively closely related. Good luck with your learning! And I love the text confetti, much appreciated.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Quintessenced

Could you go to Germany and speak fluently? Please Respond, Santi_the_BOT


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Boris153

Of course you cannot speak german after finishing the tree. I think you can only understand enough to learn by yourself. I think you can read a German book and look up words you dont understand. You can also listen to easy youtube-clips with subtitles or slow Playback Speed (0,75). After 1 year of watching/reading German Media for more than 8 hours per week I think you reach B2.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hanspersson

After finishing the tree (and not doing other training in parallel with that) you could go to Germany and be haltingly able to perform simple tasks like shopping and asking the way. Being fluent requires much more practice and far more vocabulary.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Lol no, speaking remains hard. But I got around fine in Switzerland recently, for the most part understanding what was going on around me and responding in basic ways -- well at least when the family did not go full on Swiss on me. I can decipher simple news stories , websites, books, videos. And I tested into a B2 online course so I remain optimistic about this whole German learning endeavour :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alpha3099

Full gold or just level 1? Either way congrats!

I recently finished the tree to level 1, and have almost the rest of it golden.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Full gold. Sounds like you are getting there too, good luck the rest of the way :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aidan276442

Congrats! I'm still trying to motivate myself to keep up the practicing every day. It's hard to stay committed but i'm glad you were able to. How would you say your german is now?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zberencsi

Thanks, I appreciate it. I would say my passive knowledge is decent, I can make sense of most written communication, read news stories, simple books etc. Listening is harder but much of it is OK -- not live-speed Swiss though :) My active knowledge is still horrible, but that will catch up during the summer visits I am sure.

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