"Two plus seven is nine."
Translation:ʻElua hoʻohui me ʻehiku he ʻeiwa.
Am i the only one really struggling with these? Often seems like theres different possibilities for the little word before the second number (i, i ka, me, me ka) and to me it seems totally random as to which one duolingo will accept.. Does anybody happen to know a rule for this?
I believe "ho'ohui me" is a phrase, so the two words are used together for addition. Per another poster, pu'unaue is literally "division" (not "divided by") so it stands alone. Don't add the English "by." The phrase for multiplying is "ho'onui i ka". It helps me to memorize the whole phrase when it's done differently from English. Word to word translating often doesn't work.
The rules are based on what the words really mean in Hawaiian. When a concept seems odd or random, I usually play around with English synonyms to see if there is a fit. Also I look at the parts making up the Hawaiian word (many of which are guesses by observation at this point.) So: ho'ohui. (Ho'o - someone doing the action of) (hui - meet, come together). I see it translated as mathematical "add." But now the "me". Hmmm. Add with... Currently English doesn't use "with" in math. It's "add" not "add with." But if I look for a synonym, I can try "combine." Here we do use "with" - at least in a cooking recipe! (And math is really a bunch of recipes.) So "ho'ohui me' becomes "combine with" in my head, and the "me" comes naturally in the sentence. In the command form, the numbers to be added/combined become the direct object of the command, and so the marker "i" is now needed.
Lawe is "take' and doesnt need helping words. As noted above pu'unaue is also a stand alone. I haven't been able to deconstruct this word yet, so I can't help there. But the "rule" that the diminishers stand alone (subtract, divide) helps me. The orher rules still apply when going from a statement (this divided by that is) to a command (divide this by that). You can see that the English words change too!
Excellent kumu :)). Very good. I think as I worked through the lesson I realized it is "ho'ohui me" (add with) and "ho'onui i ka" (multiply). It means to enlarge as well (nui). Can you confirm these patterns?
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