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"Still no answers" is accepted. However "Still no answer" (singular) is not accepted, which is logic as "Antworten" is plural.
No.. both of those things mean almost exactly the same thing: that you want an answer but don't have one (yet or so far)
When I've typed something like, "I still haven't done that" or "They still say they're a good team" into a translation app, it often generates "noch immer" as the translation. What's the difference between simply "noch" and "noch immer"?
"noch immer" is a little more desperate waiting for an answer ;)
It's like the difference between "no answer yet" and "still no answer yet". The second version connotes that you have looked into your inbox several times already.
I don't think that's true in English. I wrote here "There are still no answers", and it was NOT accepted. I believe that in most contexts in English - that would mean exactly the same as the accepted version: "There are no answers yet". Am I missing something?
I typically try to look for context to determine plurals and such, but it doesnt help when the noun is feminine. :/
Noch has several different meanings. One of the meanings is "another". For example, "noch ein Bier, bitte" (which means "another beer, please.")
For more about noch:
Terrible choice -- this question should be deleted. "Still no answer" should be perfectly fine.
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Was this by any chance a listening exercise? If that was the case, you were just supposed to write the German sentence, without translating.
Otherwise I'm afraid I'm not sure what to tell you. Other people on this page have said that "Still no answers" was accepted for them, so it seems like it's in the database, but then again others have said it wasn't accepted for them. Unfortunately, all I can really say is to hit the Report button if you come across this issue again (if you didn't already). (Also, posting a screenshot of your problem is a little more helpful for finding a problem than just copy-pasting, so I suggest doing that next time too.)
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That would be equivalent to "However, there are no answers."
The idea of "noch" is "until now." That can be translated as "still," or, if there's a negation, "yet."
But "yet" has (at least) two different meanings in English, and they're used with different word orders. "Yet" after the thing it's talking about has the meaning "still / until now"; but if you put it before the thing, it means "however." So you're better off with "still" here.
A couple other issues with your translation: the original German was not a sentence, so you shouldn't have "there's" there: correct is just "Still no answers." Also, "there's" was ungrammatical there; you would need "there are" in order to match plural "answers."
It would be very helpful if the gender of the noun was labelled in the translated sentence. That way we could easily figure out the reasons for the associated word endings, and more easily memorize the genders. Just a letter between two brackets would be fine.
Thanks!
Just hover on the word 'the' and it gives you the correct version of it most of the time. using this you can figure out the gender.
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In general, "noch" means "still" (timewise), or "yet" when it's used with a negative ("noch nicht" = "not yet"). And "doch" means "but" or "however."
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I've no idea what 'still no returns' means in this context, but it gives this as a correct answer. Does 'return' have some different meaning in the US than here in the UK? If somebody said this to me, I'd have no idea what they were talking about. Or is there some special context I haven't thought of where this would make sense?
It would not be a strange use of the word if someone said "He said in return..." Or for a question to be asked with, "What did he say in return?" I am assuming it is more the relationship to the word RESPONSE.
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Yes, 'response' would certainly make sense here, although I haven't heard 'return' used in this way before. Maybe it's something they say in the US. I can think of one context where you might say 'still no returns' and that would be when talking about election returns, meaning the results of an election. I'd be surprised if this is what they had in mind, though, as it's quite a specialised term.
I'm American, "still no returns" doesn't make much sense to me either.
That would be something like "Noch antwortet niemand," although there are a few other words you could use for "yet" that we really wouldn't have learned at this stage.
There are a few problems with translating it this way.
First, you're changing Antworten from a noun into a verb.
Second, you would need to conjugate that verb into antwortet instead of antworten. Also, it wouldn't be capitalized because it's not a noun.
Third, "no one," or "niemand" is not in the sentence Duolingo is asking you to translate. You would be adding it, and changing the meaning of the sentence.
Fourth, the original sentence doesn't indicate that no one is answering, but that no answers are being received. In changing "Antworten" to a verb you're cutting out "keine," the "no" part of "no answers."
Finally, unless I'm mistaken, there is a difference in grammar between Duo's "yet" and your "yet."
In the original sentence given by Duo, translating "noch" as "yet" is using it as an adverb, referring to a temporal state, as in, "not yet," or "still..." That would explain why "Still no answers" is (currently) an accepted translation.
In your sentence, "yet" is used as a conjunction. Normally you would use a conjunction to connect two clauses. For example, "She has a garage, yet she doesn't own a car." Whether it's grammatically correct to use "yet" at the beginning of a sentence is subject to debate. The problem here is you're implying connection to some other clause that's not given.
If my phone rang, and I said "However, I'll answer my phone," that wouldn't make sense, because it's missing context. If I said "I'm very busy. However, I'll answer my phone," you now have that first clause to understand what "however" means in that context (even though I'm busy I'm choosing to answer my phone).
I wrote "yet no response" and was market wrong. Is it because it should be either "no response yet" or "still no response" ?
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"Antworten" is plural: "Still no answers." (Your answer would be just "Noch keine Antwort.")
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"Antworten" is a noun, since it's capitalized and isn't in second position. Correct is "Still no answers."
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It can't be a verb here since it's capitalized. Verbs don't get capitalized (except at the beginning of the sentence, of course).
Why not "Still no answers"? Does noch always mean 'yet'? How does "Still" translate?
"Still no answers" IS accepted, because 'yet' and 'still' are synonymous. You probably wrote "still no answer"
Had "There are are no answers yet" refused. A human marker would clearly accept that. It's not "wrong!" Getting quite irritated with this.
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Duo is not a human. The program has a list of answers that are accepted. The simplest answers are going to be correct. You have simply added way too many words for what is actually being said.
Is Duo really not a human, Psycho? Well, blow me. There's a revelation. I've actually added TWO extra words, none of which alter the sense of the phrase, and neither of which were "patronise me."
Wasn't asking for help - just letting off a little steam. I think that seemed fairly clear.
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i had to choose between 'antworten' with a minor 'a' and 'Antwort' with a capital 'A'. i chose the later for it makes more sense to say 'Noch keine Antwort' that to say 'Noch keine antworten' which doesn't have a capital 'A'
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The choices won't always have the capital letter. I have no clue why. It's more important to choose the right spelling otherwise. I tend to come check the discussion board to see if it should be capitalized or not. It's a good way to check spelling on the written questions.
How do you figure out where to place Noch in a sentence? I remember the sentence "Sie isst immer noch." Why is it not at the end in this sentence as well.
Kein is used with nouns.
You can generally think of it this way, in English: nicht=not kein=no
"Still, no answers" works. "Still, not answers" doesn't.
"Ich verstehe nicht." "I understand not." Or, less awkwardly, "I do not understand."
"Ich spreche kein Deutsch." "I speak no German." Although more commonly you would say "I do not speak German"...It's not a perfect comparison, but I'm sure you get the basic idea.
it should be "noch keine Antworten" and not "noch keine antworten"... there's a mistake with capital letter "A"
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For some reason Duo won't always give us the correct capitalizations on the buttons. But you are correct that Antworten should be capitalized.
Is there a typo here? My screen shows: noch keine antworten--with a small "a." If the "a" were capitalized, it would indicate a plural noun, and the answer "no answers yet" would be correct. But with a small "a" the sentence reads more like "none are answering" because "antworten" spelled this way makes it look like a verb, and not a noun. Not often we get to correct the experts at Duolingo...
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Yes "Antworten" should be capitalized.
Not often we get to correct the experts at Duolingo...
My understanding is that it's more of a programming issue, where the program is changing words to lowercase when it shouldn't. (I believe this happens in all courses, and it's just an oversight that for German this is problematic.) As you can see from the default answer at the top of this page, the sentence is in the database correctly with a capital "A."
Similar response from me that is rejected: "So far no answers". I think the two phrases "so far no answers" and "no answers yet" hold identical meaning in English.
Why isn't this "Keine Antworten Noch"? Why is Noch at the beginning of the sentence?
