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What kind of difficulties did you experience while learning Arabic?

What kind of difficulties did you experience while learning Arabic?

November 25, 2019

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/angus390025

The greatest difficulty I have experienced is Arabic input. I have loaded the Arabic keyboard from Windows 10, and here is the layout:

It is not necessary for completing duolingo, but for looking up pronunciation on Forvo.com it is useful. It is taking me a long time to figure out where the keys are. I will demonstrate: سلام

That worked well, but I had to look at the image for each letter and figure out where to find it, so it ends up taking me about 30 seconds to write one word. I suppose I will get more proficient with practice.

The other thing was to remember the order of the letters, ا ب ت ..., so that I can find words in an Arabic-English dictionary. To look up words, one must know the order of the letters of the alphabet. I mostly have it memorized now.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/juliet569059

I am in the 5th month of study and have been focusing on pronunciation this last several weeks or more.

My study of the vowels is revealing so much.

The rhythm of the language is beautiful. The length of time a vowel is held takes a lot of work to understand but the rules are simple so with patience it comes. If you want to learn look for nuraniyah, makhraj, tajweed, jawf, al halq.... you will learn where the sounds eminate in the body, how they are held, projected, etc...

By reading the Qu'ran we are able to see all of the diacritics and listening to the recitations helps tremendously.

To angus, the أَبْجَدِيّ you posted is different than what I have seen. I see yours is arranged by family of letters. I do not say that is wrong as I have not alphabetized anything yet. But I اhave them in an order of

ا ب ج د ه و ز ح ط ي ك ل م ن س ع ف ص ق ر ش ت ث خ ذ ض ظ غ

Learning to type fast took a little while because I wanted to be proficient with all of the diacritics.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/angus390025

ا ب ج د ه و ز ح ط ي ك ل م ن س ع ف ص ق ر ش ت ث خ ذ ض ظ غ

That's an interesting order, and not one that I have ever encountered. I originally learned the order from the Teach Yourself: Arabic book I bought about 20 years ago in preparation for a trip to Egypt. The first two letters agree with yours, alif and baa, but the third one is taa, as shown in my figure above.

Also, I have two Arabic-English dictionaries, the Hans Wehr Dictionary of Modern Written Arabic and the Oxford Concise English-Arabic Dictionary. They both use the order that is shown in the image I posted.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/juliet569059

I think you’re probably correct. I don’t know the alphabetical of Arabic and have my list in my notes so may have studied errantly but definitely look in to it tomorrow . I have been thinking of getting a dictionary


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jawad-Dawdi

the alphabet ا - ب - ج - د - ه - و - ز - ... - is the ancient alphabet - it is not used nowadays - the alphabet ا - ب - ت - ث - ... is the one that you will find in all dictionaries - it's not difficult to memorize - because - the letters are grouped by shape - for the keyboard - when I was gathering money in order to buy a computer more than 20 years ago - I copied the alphabets from the keyboard on a sheet of paper and memorized them - and by doing this - I became able to know were every letter is - in the upper line - the medium - the lower - on the right - in the middle - on the left - and now - I have a keyboard only with latin letter - and i use it to write in arabic - our mind is the best machine ever made!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/angus390025

ha! They are arranged by shape. I never noticed that before. I was just reciting them in my head and learning by rote (the way I learned the Greek alphabet). But now that I see that they are arranged by shape it does make it easier to remember. Thank you for pointing that out.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/juliet569059

It is amazing how we are able to adapt virtually anything


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/juliet569059

Hey Jawad, I sang both alphabets and the ancient one is prettier sounding...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jawad-Dawdi

I agree with you - the ancient is prettier!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jawad-Dawdi

Go to this post if you want to practice your reading:

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/35232152


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/angus390025

شكرا

That's a bit hard for me right now, but I will try it later. I think you were posting a daily Arabic lesson on duolingo for a while. Have you considered becoming a contributor to the Arabic course on duolingo?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jawad-Dawdi

العفو

Now - I'm making videos on Youtube - I have put the playlist link here 2 or 3 times - the posts and comments were every time downvoted - and almost nobody even tried to see the videos - about Duolingo - I can't - I like to be free - and teach by using my own method! - If you like to see my videos on youtube - this is the link to the playlist : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLjrftZWrdw&list=PLglqo6cIjgwsjbl3witNwTJmmT7HhWrLw


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/angus390025

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elke405873

Maybe you try to show your videos in a Facebook group for Arabic learners. Indeed there I have found very helpful material so far and you will find more people who are interested in your videos there. Actually I like the way you are teaching the sentences. But I have to be very fit for watching them because they are soooo slow. ;-)


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