"Let's think about it tomorrow!"
Translation:Pensiamoci su domani!
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This seems to be an idiom. But "ci" can mean "it" and "su" means "on" or "about". Literally this means "let's think it about". I think the Italian grammar rules require that "ci" be attached to "pensiamo" in the imperative. Otherwise "pensiamo su ci" would make more sense to me. I would like to receive confirmation from an Italian expert on this.
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Pensiamoci domani: I tried it without the su and it was accepted. Ci is indeed it. Ne is more with uncountable things
I'm not a native speaker, but I believe it is because "to think about [something]" is "pensare a [qualcosa]", not "pensare qualcosa". The particle "ci" can be used to replace an expression of the form "a [qualcosa]", much like "ne" replaces "di [qualcosa]".
I believe you are correct, this issue has cropped up elsewhere and someone explained it like that.
"Ci" technically means "about it," so "pensarci" would mean "thinking about it."
I think you are right. It is similar to "y penser" in French (= to think about it). "Ci" works the same as "y" in French which means "in it" or "at it".
Pensiamo means 'We think or as an imperative it means Let's think. ....Pensiamola would mean...Let's think it .....Pensiamoci is Let's think about it.
Because la doesn't imply that the thing is given "to" someone. Think of the difference between "he" and "him".
I believe this is a correct translation, too. I would be grateful to hear from an Italian as to whether it is acceptable.
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this is an imperative form. the norm is to append the clitic to the end of the first person, plural form--'pensiamoci'. "ci pensiamo domani" would be "we'll think about it tomorrow" ('domani' in the sentence is a reference to the future and, thus, justifies the future tense of this present indicative sentence)
- 2008
From akboyle in this thread:
"3) Thanks to bab.la, I've just earned that pensarci su is an Italian phrase that means "to think again." That site includes an example that translates it a little more literally as "to think it over." So, a more precise English translation of Pensiamoci su domani might be "Let's think about it again tomorrow" or "Let's think it over tomorrow."
Note: Duolingo does accept Pensiamoci domani (April 14, 2019)"
- 2008
From akboyle in this thread:
"3) Thanks to bab.la, I've just earned that pensarci su is an Italian phrase that means "to think again." That site includes an example that translates it a little more literally as "to think it over." So, a more precise English translation of Pensiamoci su domani might be "Let's think about it again tomorrow" or "Let's think it over tomorrow."
Note: Duolingo does accept Pensiamoci domani (April 14, 2019)"
I've now had three version of "pensiamoci" in the last five minutes... one says it means "let's think about each other", the second is "let's think about it" and third, with bene, is "let's think hard about it". Whilst all may be possible, how would you know the difference?
Pensiamoci means as much as "let us think about it". The "ci" refers to "us" in this conjugation.
"Ci pensiamo" means "we think about us" and could be translated in english as "we think about ourselves".
"-iamo" refers to "us", "ci" seems to refer to "ourselves", while the sentence is about "it" not "ourselves". So I am as confused as everybody here.
I believe in this case "ci" is a pronoun replacing the "IT" that is being thought "about". From my notes, the pronoun "ci" (and also "ne") replace something previously referenced. The use of "ci" or "ne" depends on the preposition used by the verb. Verb + a = Ci. Verb +di = Ne. In this case "to think about" = "Pensare + a" so the pronoun ci is used. For example:
Do you think about work? Yes, I think about it.
Pensi a lavoro? Sì, ci penso.
Since this is a positive imperative, the pronoun "ci" is attached to the end of the verb giving "pensiamoci".
"Su domani' means "about tomorrow." Are you trying to say "let's think about IT tomorrow or "about tomorrow" ? I am convinced that the translation provided for this sentence is wrong.
"Su" is talking about "ci", not "domani". The word order looks odd because you have to append "ci" to the verb. It's kinda like tiramisu, "tirami su" ("pick me up").
- 2008
From akboyle in this thread:
"3) Thanks to bab.la, I've just earned that pensarci su is an Italian phrase that means "to think again." That site includes an example that translates it a little more literally as "to think it over." So, a more precise English translation of Pensiamoci su domani might be "Let's think about it again tomorrow" or "Let's think it over tomorrow."
Note: Duolingo does accept Pensiamoci domani (April 14, 2019)"
Someone with a better grasp of the language, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I'm starting to get this.
1) Rule #6 of the Tips and Notes section for Clitics-1 explains ci is used to replace prepositional phrases where the object is preceded by a or in. Since we use a with pensare when it's followed by a concrete indirect object (pensare a qualcosa = "to think about something"), ci replaces a + the object (a qualcosa => ci).
2) According to the Tips and Notes section for Imperative Verbs, in an affirmative command, the clitic pronoun gets attached to the verb as a suffix (so, pensiamo a qualcosa = "let's think about something" => pensiamoci = "let's think about it").
3) Thanks to bab.la, I've just earned that pensarci su is an Italian phrase that means "to think again." That site includes an example that translates it a little more literally as "to think it over." So, a more precise English translation of Pensiamoci su domani might be "Let's think about it again tomorrow" or "Let's think it over tomorrow."
Note: Duolingo does accept Pensiamoci domani (April 14, 2019)
Only transitive verbs can become reflexive alla 'vederci'. Pensare is not transitive so it cannot become reflexive and the 'ci' in 'ci pensiamo' or 'pensiamoci' means 'about it'.
I'm pretty sure I saw another exercise where "pensiamoci" meant "think about each other".
This discussion needs a native speaker to help - or other expert. I have the same question as others and it has not been answered. "Pensiamoci ogni sera" means lets think about ourselves every evening. So for this one I wrote "Lo pensiamo domani" Is the duo lingo wrong? Please explain to us!
What is 'su' doing in the sentence? What's its function? Wouldn't ''ne' fit better. Ne pensiamoci domani! ???
If we're saying "Let's [verb] it" does the article always have to follow the verb? EDIT: I looked it up. Yes, the article is attached to the end of the verb. "The only exception is loro, which is always separate." (http://italian.about.com/library/weekly/aa011900b.htm)
Thanks—I meant pronoun, not article. So the pronoun can come before the verb in an imperative?
Ok that applies to this one. What about "pensiamoci ogni sera"? Why doesn't that translate as "Let's think about IT every evening"?
Ci pensiamo domani = we think about each other tomorrow Pensiamoci domani = Let's think about it tomorrow "Pensiamoci ogni sera" should be translated as a command, so you're right adding the ci to the end makes it a command, not an expert but I have been to Italy 5 times and I have family there. Hope this may help!
I'm still not getting this - Both the duolingo phrases are imperative so the ci is attached to the end - ok, so far so good. But what makes it change from 'about each other' to 'about it'? According to duoling: "Pensiamoci ogni sera" = let's think about each other every evening "Pensiamoci su domani" = let's think about it tomorrow
I believe there is no difference and it's just about the context of the sentence. I have not tried this myself, but Duo should let you translate "Pensiamoci ogni sera" to "Let's think about it every evening". Can anyone confirm or deny this?
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context. unfortunately, 'ci' wears multiple hats. it can mean 'us'. but it can also replace an 'a'+ something phrase, in the same way that 'ne' can replace a 'de'+ something phrase. (and in fact there is a 'pensarne' form of 'pensare' like the 'pensarci' form.) if the conversation that this sentence ends is about us, then the 'ci' is 'us'. but not because it means 'us'; because the phrase it replaces would be 'a noi' or its clitic equivalent 'ci'. it's about the 'a'+ something. 'pensare' is a verb that takes the 'a' preposition with both infinitives and nouns/pronouns.
since this exercise was on the imperative, the 1st personal plural when considered with imperatives is translate let's + meaning of verb, hence, hence pensiamo is correctly translated as let's think
Melodi...It IS pensiamo, but 'ci' is added as a suffix to account for the object 'it'.
I thought it was ci pensiamo and that if the verb was conjugated, the ci could not be attached to the end of the verb?
No. Your sentence has no "it" in it. It would mean something like: We think about tomorrow.
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the answer i got to this one was: pensiamoci sopra domani. I am still wondering why sopra would be used here.
denise: I'm not a native, but that doesn't sound right. Sounds like something generated by an online translation site. What I show above is 'pensiamoci su domani' which to be honest also sounds wrong. What I'd suggest is " ne pensiamoci domani" or simply "pensiamoci domani" -- since the "about it" is understood in the verb 'pensiamoci'.
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The verb forms of pensare don't have a c after the n. I guess that pensiamolo would also be incorrect because pensare is not used as a transitive verb that way.
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i don't think the 'su' is required here. "Ti passo a prendere domani" "ci sentiamo domani"
Ne doesn't exclusively mean of......EG ne sono contento I'm happy about itThe problem for me is that the preposition su which refers to it is completely detched from ci it
Does it literally mean " let's think about it all through the night", or "let's forget it today and start thinking tomorrow"
