"Wir lernen und ihr lernt."
Translation:We are studying and you are studying.
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They don't sound the same. "ihr" sounds similar to English "ear" and "er" sounds similar to English "air" (imagine a British/RP accent).
elli57, they definitely sound similar. While they might sound distinct to a native speaker, it's hard for us beginners. Keep up the good work!
Yes I agree -hard to know especially as the the verb lernt is the same. I also thought the final t in lernt sounded very like d .Should it?
Some consonants have voiced and unvoiced sounds at the end of words which change the sound of the letter. For instance a voiced "b" sounds normal, but an unvoiced sounds like a "p".
Almost all the spoken 'T's sound like 'D's to me. Each lesson takes a few tries to learn all the tricks
The url to Eric_Young's link is broken, but you should be able to access the page by clicking on the link below:
Consonants: voiced and unvoiced
If you copied and pasted the entire link into an address bar, just disregard.
I haven't fully reviewed the page yet, but at a glance, it looks like a good resource.
I would say that er is 'harder' in pronunciation, for whatever that is worth.
How can I tell that the ihr is plural "you" in this sentence and not "she"? I assumed it was she as "lernt" is singular rather than the plural.
It's the subject of the clause, so if it was "she" then the entire sentence would be "Wir lernen und sie lernt." ... take a look at this page on German pronouns:
Confused by this one. I thought there was no progressive tense in German? I responded "We learn and you learn" but this was deemed incorrect. Anyone explain?
You could definitely use 'learn' and 'learning' in this particular context, whatever DL says. And it hasn't been corrected yet either.
we are learning and y'all learn. we learn and y'all learn we learn and you all learn
Why are these answers wrong?
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Maybe because only a small proportion of only one English-speaking country in the world says "y'all"?
That is correct. "Y'all" is not taught in English classes in the U.S. Students in English classes learn that "you" is standard U.S. English, and "y'all" is not.
Educated southerners (where "y'all" is spoken) may pronounce "you" as "y'll", but they will spell it as "you."
People learning English need to understand that English speakers generally do NOT pronounce words the way they are spelled. This is different from other languages such as Spanish.
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Is it just really bad english to say "we are learning and you learn" because I was marked wrong but I totally switched the tenses to see what the verdict would be.
It is not "really" bad. But it does break the rule of "parallel construction", which means that the same word structure should be used on both sides of an "and" or an "or".
This reference from the Purdue University Writing Center explains: https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/mechanics/parallel_structure.html
Not Parallel: Mary likes hiking, swimming, and to ride a bicycle.
Parallel: Mary likes hiking, swimming, and riding a bicycle.
Well, it's very unusual to contrast the simple and continuous aspects like that. German doesn't differentiate between these aspects, but if you contrast them in an English sentence, this would definitely need to be reflected in the German sentence, for instance by adding adverbials.
No, ihr is a pronoun (the plural form of "you"). Only nouns are capitalized in German. Pronouns are not, with the exception of "Sie", the polite form of you in both the singular and plural (I don't think Duolingo has discussed this word yet at this point in the lessons).
Danke,I used to think that the word can refer to a "thing " must be capitalized.Now it turned out to be wrong.
ihr = they im Nominativ Ihr = formal "your" (masculine or neutrum) im Nominativ oder formal "your" (neutrum) im Akkusativ. The capitalization always helps to say which one it is.
As with any dictionary, it is your responsibility to figure out which option is correct for a given sentence!
Wer dies liest, muss etwas auf Deutsch antworten. ????
Por qué? Ich spreche kein deutsch. Pero, yo hablo español, un poquito.
By the way, correct English is "...has to respond TO something in German" or BETTER, "respond in German."
Richtiges Englisch ist übrigens "..has to respond TO something in German"" oder BESSER "respond in German".
Is there any distinction betweeen "are learning" or "learn"? i.e. I don't know why it was wrong to say "we are learning and you learn"
This is from another thread: The differnce between du and ihr as a form of you is that ihr can be used to mean you (singular) or you (plural similar to you all). Was dankst du? = what do you think Was dankt Ihr? = what do you think (singular) Was dankt ihr? = what do you think (plural or asking a group) Original post by: 3251bimmer
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Nice that you tried to help, but it is a pitty that you quoted someone who has written mistakes in his or her answer. "Ihr" is plural you, not singular; the singular you is "du". Only the formal you (Sie) can be singular or plural. And the verb "to think" is "denken": Was denkst du? Was denkt ihr? Was denken Sie? all translate to "What do you think?" (singular, plural, formal) .
Is the pronunciation by the robot correct? I'm asking because I remember watching some video on German for beginners and there was the phrase freut mich dich kennenzulernen (I sure hope I spelt this right), and the lernen part was pronounced differently from what you hear in the audio here.
I thought " ihr " meant you all, as in more than one person. So why is it not "und ihr lernen" ?
"Ihr lernt" means "you learn" but because the verb is "lernt", you know that the "ihr" is a plural "you, "not singular.
"lernen" goes with "wir" or "Sie".
"You all" is not taught in English classes in the U.S. -- It is written by people who don't know better or in recorded (transcribed) conversation.
Educated people may say "y'all" but they will spell it as "you."
U.S. English speakers often don't pronounce words as they are correctly spelled. For example, you will often hear "bedder", "t' ", "doan" "thi" , but they will spell those words as they should be spelled, and not phonetically. Webster produced his dictionary to help standardize the spelling of words often pronounced very differently, depending on where people were from.
Many years ago I had to have a friend of mine from New Jersey actually spell out these words because I couldn't understand what she was saying: "Fahrest, "cah"-- as in "We used a cah to git tuh thi fahrest."
By the way, once she spelled the words, I knew what she was saying, because you knew how to spell them in standard English.
See this: https://www.iwillteachyoualanguage.com/learn/german/german-tips/german-verb-conjugation
http://www.learn-german-language-online.com/german-pronouns.html
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Is it fair to say that the 1st person plural of a verb is the same as the infinitive? Or is this only some verbs? Or am I reading it wrongly? I wish DL would give us the infinitive when a new verb is introduced, because I like to write it down. I don't want to note just one conjugation, and I don't know enough to be able to figure it out backwards, eg, ihr lernt must come from lernen, to learn (but does it, or am I wrong?)
First and third person plural is the same as the infinitive, at least in the present tense, regular verbs. See this link: https://www.iwillteachyoualanguage.com/learn/german/german-tips/german-verb-conjugation
With respects to ihr lernt can that not be translated to your learning please advise anyone thanks in advance
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No, "your learning " is not correct. "your" is a possessive pronoun. You meant "you're learning " and that is correct; "you're " is the contraction of " you are". Both parts of the sentence in present simple or both in present continuous and Duolingo is happy. And you too!
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If you mean learning as a noun then it must be translated as Lernen. So it would be "Ihr Lernen" and it would be the formal you or the third person female in the nominative case
The first time I wrote "We are learning and you learn." Why was that wrong?
I thought lernen meant learning? Why is it studying here? Both are not quite the same.
I love that "yall" is a proper translation of "ihr" makes it sound and sound a little more hospitable when translating for some reason.