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So I decided to do the reverse tree

2 weeks ago i started doing the english -spanish tree and today I decided to chech out the reverse tree just to check if ther were any differences.

So here's what i found out: It starts the same with all the same words and so, BUT you actually get to type and sort a lot more spanish words than in the english - spanish tree, so imo it is actually highly recommended to take BOTH courses at the same time as the second one forces you to think a lot more in the language you're actually trying to learn..

Anyway, just my two cents

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/wazzie
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I think you need to be slightly ahead in your 'primary' tree.
Not sure about other languages, but I noticed the Spanish tree takes the (obvious) assumption that you already understand how to use direct/indirect objects in Spanish. I've also noticed a bit of the subjunctive used very early in the English (for Spanish learners) tree that you don't see until the very end of the Spanish tree.

(Oddly enough, you do eventually get to learn different words too!)

I'll add....
I waited until the (almost) end of the Spanish tree before starting the English tree. I think one big advantage to waiting so long is that I can participate in the Sentence Discussions in Spanish!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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Yes, I tried my reverse tree before I had finished my original tree and it was fun at first. But not many skills in it became very difficult.

I like wazzie's comment about participating in the discussions. :D

EDIT: Moving my instructions for changing courses to here since comment is more visible.

To add another course, follow these images or see link below for text + image instructions.

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For written instructions see This Entry on the (unofficial) Duolingo wiki/

PS Your flags and stats for one base language will not show up when you switch to a course with a different base language. But, they are not removed. They are just waiting for you to switch back.

Additionally, if you are using an app, take note of how Streaks work when you add another language. See This Entry for more about that. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BritBlue
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I was going to try the reverse tree but after seeing what everyone on here has said now I think I might exercise some patience and wait a little while :D

I also like Wazzie's comment about the discussions, I'm sure the Spanish discussions are very interesting on the reverse course, interacting with native speakers is always the best way to learn!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kina.7

I'm thinking the same thing. I'll just have to be patient.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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Agreed. :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/roxyrenders

I also agree with the other posts. I think it is best be nearly finished with (and quite familiar with the vocabulary) of the first tree. I started with the Spanish for English speakers course. At about 3/4 the way through it, I started the English for Spanish speakers tree mostly as a different way to practice. After the first few early skills, there is a lot more use of direct and indirect object pronouns and the use of command/imperative type statements. Also more practice with subjunctive tenses. I have only two lessons to complete my Spanish tree. I am finding the English tree to offer much more practice with challenging concepts....but those concepts in the Spanish tree are presented much later and seem to not provide many practice lessons of them. For me the reverse tree is proving to be a good way to review vocab and a great way to practice some of the grammar and sentences structures that are challenging to me.
The only downside is that my present level of comprehension doesn't allow me to benefit much from discussions....but they are another source to practice reading/translating the language.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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@roxyrenders Yes, those were the same two areas I was struggling with as well! I'm now redoing my Spanish for English speakers tree. I had planned to do the reverse course much earlier but, I really struggle with language learning. So, one thing at a time (2 or 3 times lol). But, the Reverse tree is something I won't dream of not doing. It is such a good way to really polish those dir/indir objects and conditional tense two very necessary necessary components of the language that many people struggle with.

I also encourage people to use Duolingo's Immersion feature and join a club, like this one You can join whenever and participate in whichever discussion thread you'd like that fits the chapter. Though, it's more motivating if you can catch up and work through with the group. ^_^

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Spaceowl42

Is reverse tree when you learn English to Spanish and Spanish to English? Because I just tried that and I thought I lost all my Spanish progress! :-0 everything turned to Spanish and I could not see the Spanish lesson on my profile... It said English! But thankfully I went to the settings and changed my language to "I want to learn Spanish (I know English)" and it when back to normal. So what is reverse tree and how do I use it?:-/ Is it learning Spanish (English) & English (Spanish) and if it is how do I do that with out almost having a heart attack? ;-) happy learning! -Spaceowl42

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wazzie
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The reverse tree or the mirror tree is exactly what you say. It is when instead of learning [target language] from [native language], you "learn" [native language] from [target language].
Since it is all just translating back and forth between languages, it doesn't really matter which direction you take, but the reverse tree is going to have a lot more translating from [target language] to [native language] then the normal tree.
Unfortunately, there is no way to go back and forth without 'having a heart attack', but just rest assured that switching between courses will not cause you to lose progress.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Spaceowl42

Thanks! Now that is know that I might try it out! :-D happy learning! -Spaceowl42

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KollinR
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I just had this same experience - I completed my English-Spanish tree over the weekend and then started the reverse tree. Then I couldn't get back, and my profile said I was learning only one language - English, and was level 1! I was freaking out! I googled to try to find help and found this thread.

I just wanted to put this out there in case this slightly more detailed explanation helps someone else:

In order to get back to your first language you can't just change the flag up in the top bar, but have to use the pull down menu by your name to change the settings. You need to go into your settings and change the language you want to learn (configuración/idioma) and set it to "I want to learn Spanish (I know English)".

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/in2spanish

You may be interested in the nearly 15,000 Spanish vocabulary words located at: http://quizlet.com/in2languages. Many include graphics/pictures to help in memorization as well as gender were necessary. Also there is one set of about 2,000 cognates and one set of 4,000 high use Spanish words to keep you busy. I have nearly completed the DL series by skill as well . Enjoy!!

Good luck!!.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/roxyrenders

WOW- you have done a ton of work in your 5 months at Quizlet. I bookmarked it for later use. Gracias por compartir!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TrackMom
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WOW ! THAT IS GREAT THANKS:-)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mandyturtle

a little technologically challenged here, I'd like to start the reverse tree but I'm not quite finished with the Spanish tree. how do you add a course? I seem to only be able to switch to a new course.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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[EDIT: I have moved the instructions for how to changes courses towards the top of the discussion, under wazzie's comment] :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/roxyrenders

Adding a new course is the same as switching courses. You will need to change the language you speak from English to Spanish and then the courses for Spanish speakers are listed. You will need to manually switch back and forth between the courses depending on what you want to work on. You can also switch between the courses on the Android app, also. Hope that helps. I switch back and forth daily - just takes a two or three clicks with the mouse

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/roxyrenders

Perhaps a faster way to add/ change courses - when prompted to set the language you speak - choose All Languages or (Todos los idiomas) from the drop menu and the Spanish and English courses are side by side in the course selections...I'm guessing that is because they seem to be the most popular courses? It just seems easier to choose "All languages/ Todos los idiomas" (it is always at the top of the drop menu list of languages) instead of scrolling through to find the language you want.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ama-la-vida

That's what I was wondering too... or do u just have to totally switch every time?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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You have to switch every time.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mazonemayu

thanks for the comments guys, I really hadn't thought about it that way, 1 was about 1/3 of my first tree when I started with the reverse one. as someone said above, I find it a good way to practice vocalulary & I'll see where it takes me. It'll prolly get way harder in a few lessons, but I can always lay it aside for a while, or at least till I'm further in the original tree. we'll see ... :p

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wazzie
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Yup, sounds like a good plan. You can always go back and forth as you learn new material.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Knoxienne
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Very helpful. I've been thinking about doing this, and maybe I'll set some up today.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mazonemayu

turned out to be helpful here, I just did the spanish/english tree up to plurals & ended up learning a few words that I hadn't learnt yet on the other tree (and I'm way further on that one). now I'm pretty sure that I'll get the other words on the original tree as well in the end, but as far as practice goes it's always nice to pick up a new word here & there while doing something you already know :p

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kgm_7

I just tried this now and found it somewhat harder. The fact that everything on the site changed to Italian made me really confused, and I had forgotten what the words meant because I completely forgot the English layout.

Also, I think this works once you've past the first half of the language you are learning. I've only done Basics 1&2, Phrases, Food, Plurals, Animals and Possessives. I think in a few weeks time I might try the reverse course again :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BobbieL
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I'm hoping that they'll someday let us change our interface over to the language we're trying to learn (once we're deep enough into the tree that we shouldn't be hopelessly lost).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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The interface will change with your base language setting. So, if you were to take English for Spanish speakers (aka reverse course of your current course) the interface will be in Spanish. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BobbieL
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My point was that I would prefer to be able to take Spanish for English speakers with the interface in Spanish.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nyetovich135
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I just finished my Spanish tree, and so far keeping it gold has not been very exciting. I wonder if this is an option for me to learn more words. . .can you take the English to Spanish tree at the same time as the Spanish to English?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/roxyrenders

Yes, you can. You have to manually switch courses but it takes just a few clicks. I try to work on both trees each day. I sort of rushed through my Spanish tree so I am reviewing slowly because I really hadn't learned the vocabulary so it stays in my memory and then I switch to the English tree and work my way down the tree. I am trying to it more slowly and thoroughly...lots of review.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elgatobandido
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I'm doing the reverse tree now. It it's hard, but not too hard. And it does help to reinforce what was learned in the first tree. I highly recommend it, but I also recommend you finish your Spanish tree first.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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@AnaHall, yes. See my note above. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nyetovich135
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Thank you :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/04Teodora04

English and Spanish are the main languages...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/E.T.s_Son
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I actually just finished doing a few skills in the Spanish To English tree and it was quite fun. There are many benefits to learning the language in reverse. I learned a few new words and concepts in the Spanish To English tree and it helped to reinforce my español.

Nonetheless, the spanish commenters in the discussions are just as hilarious in the discussions on this side of town so its fun to participate in conversations but most importantly you actually get to see spanish grammar in usage. It was still quite difficult to understand things but considering I still haven't learned all my tenses in Spanish its understandable. but im almost done with my Spanish tree.

4 years ago