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how about european portuguese?

It was very disappointing for me that I can only study brazilian version of portuguese language. I like the idea of Duolingo a lot, however it would be much better if there were two versions so we could choose one. Is there any chance that happens? Greetings

5 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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Duolingo team is not going to add any more languages like it did before. They are planning to work on making it possible for users to add languages, but this is a big work, so I would not expect that too soon.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pctrollbreath
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It would be interesting to hear more about this.

If it's users adding languages......then can we look forward to a Russian course at some point in the future? :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dadinho
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nah nigs, i think y'all are missing the point that brazilian portuguese is the most culturally dominant and influential version of the language globally. Much of the lusophone world is influenced by the brazilian culture and media. But yeah i think some skills focusing on contintental version and more than just 1 lesson in tu/voce is called for.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arjofocolovi
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It doesn't matter, Portuguese has its origins in Portugal, the European Portuguese version should have been here first, or both at the same time. It would be like proposing Canadian French without proposing French, wouldn't make sense at all to me.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pctrollbreath
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I know what you mean. As an Englishman, I naturally think that there is only one proper version of English.... English English....... The clue is in the name, right?

But at the end of the day, US English is the international standard, and even though the spelling is a bit strange, and that they can't pronounce Aluminium properly, it is mainly understandable, and I understand that Brazilian Portuguese has the same relationship with European Portuguese, a bit different but mutually understandable.

Jarring as it can be for Europeans to see the provincial dialects of our languages that grew up in the New World outgrow their origins and become the international standard, it makes real sense to teach the most widespread version, whilst teaching both would just duplicate usage of scarce resources.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arjofocolovi
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I still think both should be here. For example for English both UK and US spellings are already accepted. For the different nouns I'm not sure but I think both should be accepted if it's not already the case. The goal is to allow a maximum of people to learn the language, there is no reason to focus only on one version of the language.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/thiagoleal
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Just for the account: there are no longer spelling differences among Brazilian Portuguese and European Portuguese. Officially, a unique standard is on since 2008 for all lusophone countries, though some may be still within the "adaptation period". I believe the remaining differences are mainly about pronunciation. Although there are really some differences in specific usages of language (like the aforementioned "tu/vocĂȘ"), yet these are very few. In written language, these distinctions are barely perceived - many times I only noticed a book was Portuguese and not Brazilian because of the old spelling difference that is up to disappear (like the word "fact"; pt-br: "fato", old pt-pt: "facto").

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/thiagoleal
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Ah, I'm sorry. Actually, it seems that even though many words indeed did lost its variations (like the example I gave above), some still remain, like "equipe" (br) and "equipa" (pt) - both meaning "team".

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Diana-Sousa

Actually, 90% of people in Portugal haven't changed to the new "accord". Public companies perhaps, but the general public still writes the old (and right) fashioned way ;)

So yes, I agree that the two versions should be available. The origins are still the origins, even if Brazilian Portuguese is more widely spread now.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dadinho
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i think a big part of it has to do with the translations. The brazilian media is the biggest in the lusophone which is not the same with canadian vs metropolitan french. I do agree that there should be more aspects of european portuguese incorporated into the lessons.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mikstur
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Agreed!

I personally do not see much difference between the Brazilian and the European portuguese but half of my family is European portuguese and whilst trying to speak to them to show off what I have learnt so far they tell me that I sound Brazilian for some reason. Haha. Most of the vocabulary is the same or am I wrong? I understand that it is mostly just the pronunciation? Correct me if I am wrong.

Either way, it would be really great if we could choose between the two.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/thiagoleal
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I believe it is mainly a matter of pronunciation...

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/r_i_l_e_y

I was initially learning EP but have now decided to learn BP as well. The following website is great for EP (http://www.learn-portuguese-with-rafa.com/learn-european-portuguese.html) and for differences between the two languages see (http://www.sonia-portuguese.com/text/brazport.htm). There are also two separate wikipedia articles on EP and BP which are quite good for understanding the differences. I'm not too worried about pronunciation so I mainly use Duolingo for vocab and grammar, and try to note where the EP grammar would be different.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/r_i_l_e_y

Ps buy Essential Portuguese Grammar (http://amzn.com/0486216500). It's excellent and cheap too!

5 years ago