Has anyone just jokingly tried to do....
Has anyone (English speakers) just jokingly tried to do the French to English course? (because I am learning French)
Or tried to do a "language they want to learn" to "their native language" course?
Out of curiosity, I decided to create a separate account to see what kind of material would be covered in the lessons. I am finding that having both an account in English to French as well as a French to English is EXTREMELY helpful. I think for some lessons I was merely memorizing the material, and not actually RETAINING anything. With this new account, I get to apply the material differently and it really helps with the monotony of Duolingo.
Just my thoughts. xx Everyone have lovely day where ever you are and keep up the great work.
After having finished my Spanish tree, I'm now doing the English for Spanish speakers and quite enjoying the challenge.
Yeah, I'm still not finished my French tree - once that's done, that should REALLY be a challenge!! Right now, it's challenging enough for me to do what I'm doing.
When I finished my German for English tree I started on French for German, although I already speak French. I'm definitely finding it very helpful, both as a supplement to what the German course covers and as a way of solidifying my German knowledge, not to mention brushing up on French.
I absolutely find that doing trees backwards (or maybe in this case "sideways"?) is very helpful.
I thought I would check out Greek. Very bad move. Now I am stuck there and get back to my French and Italian.
Interesting, I see there are French and Italian flags next to my name, but since I switched to Greek (or rather English from Greek), I have lost them at the top of my page. The key here is that I seemed to have switched from one program to another instead of adding a course. I am surprised there is not American flag next to my name. (If there were it would show me at level one! No way am I capable of taking a placement test in English if the questions and instructions are in Greek.)
You have to switch back to ENGLISH as your base language to see the languages you learn from English. Scroll over your name. If you have four items listed, choose the second one, but if you have five items listed (that would mean you took a progress test and you have an item to check your progress.) choose the third one. Then under your name on this new page, choose the second black item (blue line sends you to your profile page) which is where you can choose your language. The option on the left that is blue text on white has a down arrow if you choose that it will open a menu list of all the languages you could want to learn and you can choose one to learn from English again. Now the tab above which was grey became green and you must click on that to save your choice. I switch back and forth all the time. Be careful though, Greek was easy to get back from, Chinese changes directions as well as script as it runs from top right to bottom right in columns that run from right to left.
Or you could just use this shortcut to the list of languages to learn from English and choose one: https://www.duolingo.com/courses
There was no American flag 2 years ago when I posted. The symbols update - they now show my current levels not the levels I had then. I also suspect that if I clicked back to Greek to English I would show different flags and levels, however, I do not want to go back to Greek to English. My Greek is not nearly good enough for that.
I guess the American flag did not show because I was indeed at level 1. I have Hebrew at level 1 (curiosity - I'm not studying it.) - and that does not show here either. Makes sense. Why show it if someone has only tried one lesson?
You can use the same account for both. You don't need two accounts to my knowledge, it's just a little more annoying to switch between them.
Yeah, all you have to do is mouse-over the country flag next to your avatar and name in the top bar. Then press "Add a new course". Click the dropdown next to "I speak:" and select the other language you're learning. Then, you can click on the card that comes up for English and switch to that course.
Just be careful, because the site is localized to that other language! So if you pick Chinese and you can't read it, you might have a hard time getting back to the English page!
DXLi - I did that! I wanted to learn Japanese but it's not offered to English speakers yet, so I thought I'll learn it backwards. It was really hard figuring out how to get back. It WAS cool though, so I may try it again now that the stress of being "trapped" is gone.
You'd be better off with a textbook imo, you aren't going to learn the writing system from an English course made for native Japanese speakers.
Lots of people do this - including me. bjarkehs is right though, you don't need a separate account, you can switch between the two without it affecting your progress in either language.
Okay perfect! I've only been using this site for about three weeks and did not know that! Thanks y'all!
no problem - I haven't learnt everything yet either, I've only been on here 17 days longer than you ...... :)
I do the English course for Mandarin Chinese speakers, which is both bewildering and exciting.
I agree with both points. I currently just copy the symbols as I draw them on my trackpad, but I am learning the characters, which is really fun. Never had so much fun discovering that A boy eats an apple.
Had you already had some Chinese? I am just wondering, because the structure isn't there to differentiate some of the usage in Chinese.
I've learned a lot of vocabulary in the past year, but when it comes to forming sentences, I'm still a baby
The Duo should be able to help - but there are many errors, it is still in Beta. If you want short sentences and natural pronunciation try http://hua.umf.maine.edu/Chinese/search.html - you can look up just words, or choose the length of sentences. It might help when working with Duo.
Where did you learn to type characters?
Ah, that's a good idea, I never thought of that. I'm learning French from English now, I think after I finish the whole course I will try it the other way round as well.
thanks for reminding. I never thought it before, and I start learning English with three languages I'm working on, German, French and Turkish now. looks awesome and new approach to learn the desired languages. if you wouldn't have mentioned it, I'd never have tried it out.
Could someone explain in detail how to switch between the two courses, using the same account? I figured out how to get to French to English, and did one lesson. However, I could not figure out how to get back to English to French. Oh, I did, somewhat randomly, but then when I tried to go to French to English, using the way I got there in the first place, I ended up back at the beginning of the French to English course, with no record of having done lessons.
p.s edit- this comment might also appear in a different form as I entered a comment before when (I think) I was in "French to English"
I don't know if this is the only way, but I swap between mine by doing the following.
1) Hover over the Circle Flag to the left of your profile picture. It will come up with a list of the languages you are learning from English. Underneath this list (which may be only one language) it will say "Add a new course"
2) Click on Add a New Course
3) This will take you to a new screen with a drop down box in the top right. It says something like "I speak" ... Hover over the arrow and then choose French. You are pretending you a french native who wants to learn English.
4) You will see the "pictures" of the various languages available from French. Click on English.
5) It will then say Passer au Course or Switch to Course in the coloured band right in the middle of your screen. Click that button and you will notice that the "Toolbar" on your DL is now in French, not English and your tree is the Reverse Tree.
6) To go back you do the same, but select English from the Drop Down Box
You can swap between the two trees and your lingots and streaks are accumulated no matter which tree you are one. So rather than have two accounts and have to maintain two "streaks", you only have the one.
Be careful though, even just a couple of days of inattention to one tree and the decay sets in quick - I think the "ignored" tree goes into a jealous rage!! : 0
Thanks for setting this out so clearly!
Interesting that the lessons (at least those so far) in French to English give you 4 hearts to start with, rather than the three in English to French . Hmmm.... Is it the same throughout the French to English tree?
No, it won't continue. The first few lessons in both trees have four hearts. Go back and check the English to French.
Thanks for that information. It's been so long since I did the first part of the tree, I'd forgotten.
To be honest, I haven't actually noticed. I just watch them fall away like green bottles on the wall and begin again :) Often because of stupid errors. One of my recurring ones is when I am asked to translate from French to English, say for example
- Il mange une pomme.
I often write :
- Il eats an apple
Or other way around He eats an apple and I write He mange une pomme
Interestingly I only do it in the third person masculine singular : )
Hilariously, it sometimes takes longer than it should for me to realise why I lost my heart!! I remember being in France a few years ago and saying to the children Would anyone like a tranche of ham? I couldn't understand why they all looked at me with "what-did-you-just-say" expressions !!
Totally, I try all different combinations. French for German speakers in particular has helped me improve immensely in both languages.
I've never tried that. It may help me a lot. I'm trying to learn French but I speak English and learned Spanish living in Mexico so I keep confusing French rules for Spanish rules. Thank you for this hint!
I think it is a great idea but I have a two questions : 1- As I'm doing German for English speakers, and I am absolutely rubbish at German, will it help me progress with German? 2- Is it the same things in both courses? (I have only been on Duolingo for 8 days so please forgive my ignorance)
I don't know about the German course, but the Fr --> En and En--> Fr are not the same. There are some similarites and some of the questions are the same, but not all. I find it very worthwhile and I do learn French on the reverse tree. I also spend a bit of time on the discussion forum (from discuss sentence) on that tree. Everyone writes in French as it mostly native French speakers trying to learn English. This is extremely helpful, because you see how sentences that you would normally say are constructed, but you do need a certain level to be able to understand completely. If you are not sure just yet, consolidate a bit in the En-Ge tree because don't forget the interface will be in German too : )
I did this with English for Russian speakers as Russian for English speakers is still in the pipeline. It was a bit of a challenge, but I enjoyed it. Worth doing.
This is a very good idea. Too bad that is a bit hard to switch between the courses.
I've done this both using more than one account and switching languages within a single account. The odd thing is that Duolingo shows your proficiency badge for only one of the alternate languages. I'm currently configured to learn English from French and so you should see my English proficiency badge (based on my ability to "learn" my native language from French - hah!). But no, above is my French proficiency badge, presumably because this is the French from English Discussion Forum. In which case, what is the point of displaying other languages learnt from English, like German or Spanish (no disrespect to these achievements btw). Duolingo should smarten up this part of the interface as the range of source and target languages continues to grow.