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May you give me a pronunciation dictionary for Latin?

As you all know, the Latin course is still in the beginning stage, and the contributors have to work very hard to complete the course. There’s one thing that really annoys me: the quality of the audio. And one more thing, I got really confused with long and short vowels, since they’re typed exactly the same on Duolingo. So what I (and probably many others) really need now is an online dictionary (or an app) which shows both the proper spelling and pronunciation. If you know any, please let me know, I’ll appreciate it. Thanks in advance!

March 19, 2020

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Danielconcasco

"Another thing is that though they say they teach Classical Latin, they don’t offer the proper spelling"

The course uses proper spelling. (Most) original Latin did not have the long marks over the vowels.

You can use wiktionary.org to see the macrons and all the forms of a word. They often have the pronunciation.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnLxoP

Oh, I didn’t know that. I’m brand new to Latin, and my knowledge about the history of the Latin language is very poor, so please pardon me for that.

Thank you!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LoveLingua1

they are just created for us to make it easier, but nothing that was actually there. Same with commas, Romans didn't know them, so if you see any macrons or commas, you know that they are not part of the original but added by modern philogists.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

By "proper spelling" you mean indicating the long vowels with macrons, right? The course's spelling is proper, as Danielconcaso has already said.

You are right: macrons are not provided, although this has been asked for fairly often. It's too bad, but it's not an insurmountable problem. Until it is offered, you'll need to make up your own list as you go along . . . unless, of course, someone has already done so and put it up for Anki, Quizlet, Memrise, or whatever.

  • You can look up the macrons for individual words phrases, or passages with this macronizer, which is quite accurate (as good as I've found online).
  • Macrons (along with full inflection) are also shown by wiktionary, although it and the macronizer do not agree occasionally. But print dictionaries don't, either.
  • Lewis and Short's dictionary is old, the vowel lengths indicated are sometimes not what people suppose them to be nowadays, so it's not great for macrons, and its definitions are more complex than is needed at first, but it's still the best available online in English.

Good luck! If you manage to write out all the course's words w/ the macrons supplied, you could put them up somewhere on line for the use of others.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnLxoP

Wow, thank you for those stuff, the macronizer is helpful.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

You're welcome. The macronizer is very cool, I agree. If you would like to see a sample of a book edited by the macronizer's creator (for which I bet the macronizer was used), look here at the "Latin translation . . ." link and go to the "Look inside" link (at amazon_dot_com). Notice, "omnēs vōcālēs longae sunt līneolīs superscrīptīs ōrnātae" (all long vowels are marked with macrons) and further discussion elsewhere in the introduction. Here is another book edited by him' with macrons.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnLxoP

Thanks, you’re so nice.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

Why, thank you. Or, "Aw, shucks!" as Goofy used to say in the cartoons.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WeHaveAPiperDown

That would be helpful.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ThatFunnyPancake

I go back and fourth between the online-latin-dictionary, which shows macrons and conjugations, and wiktionary, which helps with alternative spellings. I'm new to Latin though and these are the best I've stumbled upon.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnLxoP

Thanks, that helped a lot!

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