Translation:I think that he has been the artist who has touched me the most.
I wrote, "you" in place of "he". Is there any indication that the correct answer is "he" and not "you"? Otherwise, if you think "you" is also correct, vote this up.
but it is "el" artista, so they must be male-- caught me the first time around!
I'm not sure why people insist on using the 'Usted' form for their answers. It's really not that common so you're not helping yourself much by focusing on it :-/
Very true; it depends on the place/culture. In Spain (today) almost everyone is tú (except for, yes, formalities, such as when, for example, we would say "sir" or "ma'am" in English).
It doesn't really matter how common or uncommon it is. The point is that it should still count as correct.
According to RAE, la artista / el artista both of them are right:
a) Sustantivos comunes en cuanto al género. Son los que, designando seres animados, tienen una sola forma, la misma para los dos géneros gramaticales. En cada enunciado concreto, el género del sustantivo, que se corresponde con el sexo del referente, lo señalan los determinantes y adjetivos con variación genérica: el/la pianista; ese/esa psiquiatra; un buen/una buena profesional. Los sustantivos comunes se comportan, en este sentido, de forma análoga a los adjetivos de una sola terminación, como feliz, dócil, confortable, etc., que se aplican, sin cambiar de forma, a sustantivos tanto masculinos como femeninos: un padre/una madre feliz, un perro/una perra dócil, un sillón/una silla confortable.
:0) (I am a native Spanish speaker)
ProfessorAntonio, please forgive me for being dense: I understand that one would refer to a "generic" artist as el artista. Is the quotation from the RAE saying that one could refer to a specific female artist (Frida Kahlo, por ejemplo) as el artista rather than la artista? I thought you said the opposite above. Help, please!
RAE is saying that you can specify the gender of the person just by adding el / la before the noun.
As far as I'm aware, "el" is used instead of "la" b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶i̶r̶s̶t̶ ̶"̶a̶"̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶"̶a̶r̶t̶i̶s̶t̶a̶"̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶s̶t̶r̶e̶s̶s̶e̶d̶. It's like in English how we say "an apple" instead of "a apple". Another example, you say "el agua" even though "agua" is feminine.
E̶d̶i̶t̶:̶ ̶T̶h̶a̶n̶k̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶o̶o̶w̶o̶w̶a̶e̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶r̶r̶e̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶,̶ ̶"̶e̶l̶"̶ ̶u̶s̶a̶g̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶t̶r̶e̶s̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶"̶a̶"̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶s̶i̶m̶p̶l̶y̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶d̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶"̶a̶"̶.̶
E̶d̶i̶t̶2̶:̶ ̶S̶e̶e̶ ̶P̶r̶o̶f̶e̶s̶o̶r̶A̶n̶t̶o̶n̶i̶o̶'̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶N̶i̶c̶k̶M̶9̶8̶'̶s̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶m̶e̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶o̶w̶:̶
Edit3: I have no idea what to think anymore :S
The word artista is stressed on TIS, so that is no a reason to avoid "la". (I am a native Spanish speaker)
You're right, I've looked for other examples, and I don't know why I say "el artista" and not "la artista". I've discovered a mistake in my Spanish :)
Thanks for clearing it up, it seems a lot of people were confused :)
But just to be sure, "Creo que ha sido el artista que más me ha tocado." implies the artist in question is a man and not a woman, right?
When we don't know if the artist is a man or a woman we prefer the masculine form el artista. We also use el artista to talk in general about men and women.
But if we specifically know if it is a man or a woman:
Creo que Pablo Picasso es el artista que más me ha tocado
Creo que Frida Kahlo es la artista que más me ha tocado
No sé cuál es el artista que más me ha tocado
I give up. When native speakers can't even agree...
"I think that she has been the artist who has touched me the most." Is this a valid translation? Will we ever know...?
"Creo que ella ha sido la artista que más me ha tocado" that's the right translation. Many people just don't find out about what RAE says about correct usage of Spanish.
Por the purpose of Duolingo, since I don't remember them ever offering a feminine noun with "el," i think it's fair to say this artist was a dude.
We need a native speaker to chime in here, because I also believe a female artist will be "la artista". The rule for using "el" with a feminine noun doesn't depend on whether or not the word starts with "a", but whether or not that "a" is stressed - la amistad, la acción, la ausencia etc.
We say "el artista", whether it's a man or a woman, since the "el" isn't masculine because of the gender, but for a aesthetical reason.
I know, I didn't know the rule was like that. I've always said and heard "el artista" rather than "la artista".
I'm not being argumentative: I think ProfessorAntonio's comments are very helpful. He explained the el/la issue in terms of pronunciation when the noun starts with "a" and the masculine/feminine issue with el/la artista. Perhaps his comments weren't here when you wrote your last comment?
And, remember, too, that native speakers can and do disagree sometimes and that someone can be a native speaker and not be an expert in grammar.
I was just agreeing that I was confused by the matter. It was later further clarified.
I put "I think that has been the artist who has touched me most". I think that that's fine, I know that people actually do use that structure in English (at least where I live). I think that the only difference between it and the "correct" answer is that mine is gender neutral.
"Creo que" commonly means "I think..." in Spanish and that is what you would use in a conversation in which you thought something.
I got it wrong on "... the artist that has touched me most" but there is no definite article in the sentence.
How about "it" instead of "he/she"? As in: Of all the things, I believe that it has been the artist who has touched me the most. (rejected)
"that" is now accepted in place of "who" (both of which are acceptable in English for this sentence). 11 Dec 2013
I believe, reading ProfessorAntonio's comments elsewhere in this section, that it is because it is el artista rather than la artista.
Seriously. I had to stare at it for a few minutes before responding. I think, for me, the biggest problem was the lack of a written subject pronoun before ha sido.
I was marked wrong because I wrote "artist that touched me the most" instead of "that's"" what's the dif? Mine seems more grammatical correct.
I'm just wondering why it doesn't say "el mas" for the most. Isn't it "el mejor" for the best? What's the dealio?
my translation was "i believe that it has been the artist that has touched me the most". this implies that the artist was so "touching", not his/her work :P pardon my ignorance, but why is it incorrect?
I wrote "i think i have been touched the most by that artist" - why is this incorrect?
Because of the "ha sido" which you're effectively omitting. It is a similar sentiment, but I don't think "i think i have been touched the most by that artist = "I think he has been the artist that has touched me the most".
I also think that it makes sense as: I think it is the artist that has touched me more. THink: El artista me ha sido que mas me ha tocado.
Could I use the imperfect in the first clause? "Creo que (él/ella) era el artista que ..."
If someone said this to me in English, I'd say, "I'm not sure that you understand the implications of what you are saying."
I assume that "touched" is being used metaphorically in this sentence, but the double-meaning is rather funny.
I wrote 'I believe that he has been the artist that touched me more'. Can someone explain why this was not accepted by DL?
My translation is definitely better, for ex. It is the boy who did it; It is me...ets.
That's "has been" instead of "was". As for "it" instead of "he/she", perhaps it should be accepted - keep an eye on any replies to my other comment in this thread.
Wow, what a controversy! Can some of this be a product of cultural change? For example, in the US, even though "actress" is still perfectly correct English, it is now considered "politically incorrect" to use the term since female actors prefer to be called "actors" along with the boys to reduce the sense of discrimination. Could there be a historical shift from"la" to "el" here?