July 16, 2014



We spell this the same way in Hungarian... our languages are more similar i ever imagined :D


I'll give you this one word, but don't count on the rest of the language haha, Hungarian and Dutch come from 2 very different language families.


Man, it was supposed to be irony :P


Nevertheless Dutch and Hungarian do have some commonalities since German has had a strong influence on Hungarian in recent centuries.


Not as many as Nederlandse en Zweedse


Nederlands en Zweeds* :)


If you're looking for loan words, check the sea first: Can you give Nitram "jacht"? And maybe "matroos", though it came out as "matróz".


Does it need the accent thingy on the e?


While we wait for the accents to show up, you can hold down the alt key and type 0233 and it gives you the accent over the e. Voila é


It's not like that for everybody. If I do this (Firefox running on Ubuntu), my browser switches tabs instead.

For most people the best solution is the US International keyboard layout in its variant without dead keys. The only difference to the normal US layout is that the right Alt key gets the AltGr function. E.g. AltGr+e = é, AltGr+,=ç. (Dead keys means that when you press '`"^~, at first nothing happens. The symbol is combined with the following letter or space, if possible. This is even easier to remember, but most people don't like it when they have to press space to get normal ' and ".)


If you're using Ubuntu (or any other Linux distro), the Compose key is very convenient. You might need to enable it (have a look on Google or dig around in your system settings a bit). Then you can combine any characters that it makes sense to combine - e.g. pressing <compose> then <'> then <e> gives you é, <compose> then </> then <=> gives you ≠, and so on.


When frenchs just have to press 2 :D


You may have to turn on number lock first. But does anybody here know what they call "é" in Dutch. I know in French it is an accent aigu


é = accent aigu è = accent grave ê = accent circonflex


In other words, Dutch uses the same words as French for the acute, grave, and circumflex accents. (Note, by the way, that it's circonflexe -- with an -e.)


Accent naar rechts haha Just kidding. (Accent spoken as in French, not dutch or english)

The common term for ^ is dakje (little roof) (yes we make everything cute in dutch bit often don't realise it, because diminutives are so normal. Only after translating it I realised)

We do have "terms" for é and è but they aren't really terms, more a description
streepje naar rechts and
streepje naar links.
Dash/stripe/line to the right and to the left.

You could say dakje is a description as well but it is really more a term, not a real grammatical term though (afaik...)

It cant do the accents without the letter on my phone, obviously I meant just the accent.

So in common speech we say streepje naar rechts (we often drop the direction because circumstances usually makes clear what you are talking about. "Is cafe met of zonder streepje?" Or sometimes we just use the word accent.

In every day speech we don't really use the French terms, we learned them at school and that's about it.


And if you don't put it on there, they will probably classify your answer as almost correct.


I'm wondering if it accepts 'OK' as the English translation, since that's how I usually write it. I didn't want to take the risk, but I'd like to know if anyone else did.


What the accent means? In this case in particular, and in general, what are accents in dutch?


basically, oké is the same as ok. the accent means that you make the "e" long as you pronounce it. there is also the "è", as in "blèren". here, you make the e short. shame i can't demonstrate ;) dutch also has the umlaut (kopiëren - to copy), the circumflex (used for french loanwords as gêne - embarrassment), the acute accent (café - cafe) and the grave accent (as in blèren - to yell/cry). hope i haven't forgotten anything ;) the acute accent is also used to place extra emphasis on a word (kom hier, nú - come here, NOW!). bit of a difficult language i'm afraid ;)


Though it doesn't actually have an umlaut, which is a remnant character in German words. Rather, it has a "trema" (diaeresis), which is an indication that a vowel does not form a diphthong with the letter before it.

These two were combined, together with other similar uses, into one glyph, to be able to encode more characters with one-byte characters. Now that larger character sets are possible, people seem to find it difficult to distinguish between them again.


Does Dutch even have accents?


yup, it sure has! like: oké (or ok), initiëren (to initiate), beëindigen (to end), blèren (to yell/cry) and many more! you'll be surprised at the number of dutch words with accents ;)


I don't believe this was an original word until it was made up by Americans in the early 1800s, does Dutch borrow from american English in this case?


Yes. Most languages do.


Well one of the suggested etymologies is (most common one, thpugh not conclusive)

That it comes from Old Kinderhook (originally kinderhoeck). Which is actually a dutch name (kids corner)

So in a way you got it from us ;)

(If that explanation is true. Personally I think it might have only helped spread it. Another etymology makes more sense too me, but too long to explain here)


"Oke" thus spell same in indonesian. oke no problem :)


We Indonesians also spells okay like this. i thought oke in Bahasa Indonesia is loanword from english, but it is actually from dutch. Now i know.


Some Dutch friends of mine also say "okej", is that terribly wrong?


I would say yes.

Ok oké okay and okey are all sort accepted colloquially

But okej is more like a type what I hear (and I drag out the end sound to make it look funny. Like when you say it like o'k eyyyyy)

Ah! It's like some people might write neejj (instead of nee). I was sure there was another examples but it tool a while to think of one. (It's like changing nay to nay-hi and then writing it as you (mis)pronounce it)


it just depends on the region they're from, Dutch has a lot of different accents, dialects and semi-dialects.


Ahh. Love it when I get things right without having to view what it means :)


You can say oké in french but it's kind of a slang word and can be seen as ironic

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