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Me too Knoxienne. Me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you're learning Italian are you going to Italy, or are you already there, and your just try to speak that language? But I think it would take me a long time to answer like that.
wow you are doing great ! i have a question is duolingo enough to speak and understand a language ?
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No, just as your reading lessons in first grade do not enable you to read Charles Dickens, but it is a start. Buy a dictionary. Buy Asterix books in whatever language you are interested in. Write some simple phrases that you might need when you visit another country.
Is there any guidance I can use to understand the meaning of fra? Since the hints say 'between' I translated this as 'the prison is closed for fifty days' but was marked wrong.
I translated 'fra' in this case as 'within', which seemed about right. "Within fifty days, the prison closes." DL accepted the answer too.
Thank you - that sounds like a translation that makes sense, within my understanding of 'tra'
That actually makes more sense than translating fra to in, and the meanings are not the same.
Im also curious about this. Im pretty sure Viaggiatore had an answer to this but I skimmed over it..lol.
I really love when I type it right but the sound makes me second guess myself and change it...
Murray you're going to Italy ??????????????? Lucky I always wanted to go............................. bring me back something!!!!(J.K I don't even know you) hope its fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh I had a question, how would that help you???????????????????????????????????????Hole to talk to you soon............till next time.
I feel like the reflexive "la prigione si chiude" would be more accurate. The prison is closed, or the prison closes itself.
Duo doesn't understand ye jolly olde English: "In 50 days the gaol closes" was marked wrong. Outrageous!
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I translated it as "after fifty days the prison closes" meaning it has only been open for fifty days and it was marked wrong. Is there something wrong with my english or is it just a bad translation?
I think it's more natural in English to say "The prison closes in fifty days' time", but DL doesn't agree. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
My English teacher would say adding the word "time" to "fifty days" was redundant. Fifty days IS time. Verbally, people do use this but it's not really needed.
that's a natural English translation. DL doesn't like it because it's not literal
I like the random sentences on Duolingo... Eventually, we'll hopefully be able to construct italian sentences from a knowledge base, rather than just memorised lines ;)
I am confused! "In fifty days the prison closes" means that on the 50th day the prison will close and not before. "The prison closes within (the next) 50 days" means that the prison will close at sometime in the next 50 days. These are two different meanings, but which is the meaning in the sentence? I thought that "la prigione chiude in cinquanta giorni would be the first sentence but how to express the second meaning? Fra / tra means between /among / in / amid / within / betwixt; this indicates to me that fra here means within the next 50 days ie the second sentence above. Clarification would be helpful please.
When the sentence starts with fra and a number it means "in".
When fra is in the middle of the sentence, then it means "among" or within.
Fra cinquanta giorni la prigione chiude (in 50 days, exactly)
La prigione chiude fra cinquanta giorni (within 50 days)
At least I'm pretty sure; I could still be incorrect, though. I'm not Italian.
the fast speaker says : Fra......la prigione E' chiude (e' is added) I keep getting this wrong because it is what I hear!
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In fifty days time the prison closes is perfectly acceptable English. Why is this not accepted by DL?
I put "in fifty days' time" and was marked wrong, which seems a bit picky!
"Shuts" is only temporary. " The shop shut 30 minutes ago. I will go in the morning". Closes can be temporary or permanent as in the case of the DL phrase.
The reason for this difference is that 'closes' has the context of the whole place, while 'shuts' implies the much more specific action of closing the shutters at the end of the day.
I think that they are both equivalent. Shuts is not more ephemeral than closes
When I listen to the phrase, the last two words dropped off into a muddle of incomprehensible sound. It seems that repeatedly the last couple of words lose volume and become mumbled. I've been complaining in the discussion board about the quality of sound (bit rate is definitely too low, which is why it isn't sharp and clear) - and I hear that the Italian phrases we are listening to now is an incredible improvement, and one of the best on duo lingo. Is anyone else having issues with the quality of the sound.
Is the meaning the same if the sentence is 'Fra cinquanta giorni è la fiesta grande in Sicilia' ?
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Sure you can use it....................... if there is a prison near you, and it's closing in 50 days.
In the normal sound track I heard: ....la prigione e' chiude! Typed it right the first time and changed it only to be marked wrong. sigh..
shuts = closes. They always mean exactly the same in English. DL cannot possibly accept one and reject the other! Reported (again) 29.8.15
But why ?are the preson gonna move to another place! !!i prefer to let it open where we could rehabilitate convicted persons????
