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"Ik hoor diegene die veel praat."

Translation:I hear the one who talks a lot.

July 21, 2014



What is the difference between degene and diegene?


'Diegene' and 'degene' are the same, but 'diegene' is stressed and 'degene' is unstressed (and therefore used more often).


Damned if I can figure out when to use diegene and when to use degene !! It seems to me to be marked wrong at random :-( I would really appreciate it if someone could advise when to use each one. Why is it emphasised as "diegene" in this particular sentence?


Completely agree- I cannot tell them apart, and have no idea when to use each one. If they have the same meaning they should be marked as correct when used interchangeably.


Hey is die the only relative pronoun or is there like a lesson later with relative pronouns?


There's the skill "Demonstratives" that's has all "Die, Dat, Deze, Dit, etc..."


Yeah not but I mean relative pronouns... Like the dog, THAT ate the mouse... But FYI it is just die and dat and wiens and maybe more I forget


can you use 'wie' instead of 'die' here?

"Ik hoor diegene wie veel praat"


If the relative pronoun is subject, object or predicate in a dependent clause, Dutch always uses 'die'. 'Wie' can not be used.


Unless you are trying to ask who/say you don't know who did sth, like "ik weet niet wie is diegene die veel praat", right?


Word order is almost correct: "ik weet niet wie diegene is die veel praat". This is indeed a correct sentence.


Thanks, I tend to screw up with word order, even after more than a year of studying Dutch.


What would be "I hear a lot, the one who talks", would it be Ik te veel hoor diegene die praat?


Could it also be: ...die praat veel. ?


No. “Die” begins a subordinate clause so word order means verb at end.

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