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Why 'they stayed' is 'elles sont restées' not 'elles ont restées' or 'elles restèrent'?

In duolingo's french grammar coures, it says : 'when talking about the past, verb that indicate motion or change of state use être'. Does the verb ' rester' indicate any change in state or motion? Merci!

May 5, 2020

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jojo553168

Why 'they stayed' is 'elles sont restées' not 'elles ont restées' or 'elles restèrent'?

Elles restèrent would be correct, except it's not the same tense.


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French tense is so difficult ahah, how would you translate elles sont restées' not 'elles ont restées' or 'elles restèrent' in english? or that's impossible?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jojo553168

The passé composé (elles sont restées) corresponds to the English simple past or sometimes the present perfect.
The passé simple is closer to the simple past, but is rarely used in oral speech.


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It's a bit clearer now, thanks!


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Another related question, when translating 'Now, we are finishing. Last year, we finished.' duolingo used 'Maintenant, nous finissons. L'anné dernière, nous avons fini.' For me 'finish' indicates change of state from undone to done, why we are not using être here?


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For me 'finish' indicates change of state from undone to done

It's not a rule, it's just a trick so learners can memorize a list of verbs.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JenniferH323

The reason why you must use << être > as your auxiliary verb in this sentence instead of << avoir > (elles sont restées and NOT elles ont restées) is because rester is one of the verbs that must be conjugated with être. The acronym that I always learned in school to help remember these verbs is DR. MRS. VANDERTRAMP: (Devenir, Revenir, Monter, Rester, Sortir, Venir, Aller, Naître, Descendre, Entrer, Rentrer, Tomber, Retourner, Arriver, Mourir, Partir) If you take a look at these verbs, something that they all have in common is that they express a motion or an overall state of being. Rester (to stay) falls into this category because it is the opposite of aller (to go). I hope this helps a bit and helps you to remember these verbs :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Atervanda

Hm, 'rester' doesn't indicate a change in motion, no, but it does have to do with motion. I believe there are only fourteen verbs (not including the reflexive verbs) that use 'être' as the auxiliary in the passé composé, so you could probably learn them by heart. A good mnemonic for this is the 'maison d'être'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkXnIrltIE0


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ah, I see, that makes this part so much easier now. Thank you!


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I also found a related video for people whose french is not that good (like me) , their video have english subtitles :https://www.francaisavecpierre.com/auxiliaire-etre-ou-avoir/


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C'est une queston excellente.

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