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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ricardo353195

I don't know how to difference between Elles and Elle ( in the sound)

May 10, 2020

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vu7xENbj

Elle and elles are pronounced the same way, you know the spelling by context (singular/plural).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pom666
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Sometimes you can have a connection (?) link (?) with "elles". For example : "elles arrivent" we say "elles z arrivent". Does this help you ? In french : https://www.francaisfacile.com/exercices/exercice-francais-2/exercice-francais-87708.php


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GScottOliver

The word you’re searching for is liaison. This is an excellent way to hear the difference when possible. Have a Lingot.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pom666
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In French too ! (une liaison)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pom666
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de rien...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnasElFass1

Nothing It sounds Elle like Elles


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rodrigo21011975

usually there's no difference, unless you have a vogal. Elles ont, in this case the "s" e read Elles sont, in this case the "s" is not read.

Rodrigo


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Manuel599019

In the case of "elles ont" you should not hear the "s", what you should hear is a "z" sound.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kateaine

often french words pronouns and singular/plural nouns sound the same aurally but are distinct orthographically (the difference is only seen in spelling, and understanding depends on the context of what is being said)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MasterRese

Well there's a little difference in pronunciation but a huge difference in meaning. As such, there is no trick to differentiate between them but you can obviously learn there meanings. Elles has a short "s" kind of sound at the end. That's all i know. Please give me a lingot. It would be really grateful


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pom666
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no, the sound is the same, except with a liaison "elles arrivent" = "elles z arrivent" and "elle arrive" = elle / arrive". Be careful DL sometimes is wrong (in this case).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/w1lVDHIV

Elle(she) is singular and elles(they) is plural but both are used for femine character and sounds same


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/.MaxLeCitron83.

the sound is the same


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/avarella2

Listen to the verbs before and after


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miss-Sparkle

Does anyone have any idea why the answer I posted yesterday has disappeared? I hope it's not because I mentioned that - in real life - context usually helps. That was not meant to criticise Duolingo, but rather to stop learners from worrying too much.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DaibhidhR

This happens sometimes. I think it is because you answered an answer that has been deleted - or it was an answer to answer to an answer that has been deleted. In other words, if someone deletes their post, then the replies and the replies to the replies and the replies to the replies to the replies all get deleted. Frustrating as I'm sure you said something interesting.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miss-Sparkle

Thank you, that helps. I was wondering whether I shouldn't simply save my breath (and time) since I put some effort into making my explanations clear and presenting them in a readable way.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vero297068

Le elles avec un s est au pluriel est à la 3ieme personne du pluriel et le elle la 3 ième personne du singulier


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnneinProvins

welcome to french ! lack of logic - ha ha , you never here the S , because they only write it ! so thus when talking, you have to listen to the nous, to understand, if you are talking about 1 or more girls -- its a stupid system, but it's how it was designed ..


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miss-Sparkle

No more stupid than English, where seeing the written word does not get you any further in telling the difference between "you" (singular) and "you" (plural) ... :-P


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DaibhidhR

That is not correct. We have two words. The singular is

English French
thou tu
thee te
thy ta etc.
thine le/la tien(ne)
hast as
art es
givest donnes

We have just given up using it except when we want to sound old-fashioned. The plural you (=vous) has just taken over completely, compared to partially in French.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miss-Sparkle

That's exactly what I meant. Languages are alive, they evolve. You'll still find those singular forms in Shakespeare or Bible quotes, but modern English gets by without them and compensates with a more rigid sentence structure. The loss of pronunciation of final -s in French is just another example of language change. In fact, French and English have a lot in common, e.g. a rather conservative spelling which represents the pronunciation of a bygone era.

Today, learners of French often complain that many of the letters aren't pronounced, but learners of English are equally confused when it comes to devining how to pronounce certain vowels.

If other languages are more "logical" in their spelling, that's also linked to their history. Italian, Czech, and - to a lesser extent - German spelling are pretty straightforward because they were introduced much later, in the course of the 19th century, when national identities emerged.

Since the Great Vowel Shift, thee is no longer pronounced with an [e:], but with an [i:], words from other languages have been absorbed, and the current chaos ensued. Enjoy the video!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DaibhidhR

It is said that there are four languages that stand out for preserving archaic features, and thus having apparently illogical spelling and they are, in order, English, Gaelic and Irish, and French. They are, however, illogical in different ways. French has lots of these heterographs, especially inflections of the same word (like elle and elles) but has very few heterophones - and the ones it does have are almost all caused by adding inflectional endings such as fils and fils. See here for further examples.

English has lots of heterographs and heterophones (or heteronyms - see here).

Gaelic and Irish just have lots of letters that aren't actually pronounced, some of which help with recognising cognates in other languages.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnneinProvins

i have no idea what 'you' ( singular) are talking about .... vs.. vous, tu, ...understand now ???

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