So what is the difference in between "Lei non ricorda di me" and "Lei non si ricorda di me"?
The former is wrong, the latter is correct. Simple as that :) There are cases where "si" is not mandatory though.
E.g. "Lei non ricorda nulla di me" (=She does not remember anything about me) is correct.
I don't know a scientific rule about that, but it seems allowed especially when "remember" can be translated by its literal (and literary!) italian counterpart, "rimembrare". Just like in Giacomo Leopardi's beautiful poem "A Silvia":
"Silvia, rimembri ancora
quel tempo della tua vita mortale,
quando beltà splendea
negli occhi tuoi ridenti e fuggitivi,
e tu, lieta e pensosa, il limitare
di gioventù salivi?"
"Silvia, do you recall
those days of mortal life,
when beauty sparkled in
your quick and gleaming eyes,
when, glad and pensive, the threshold
of youth you were to rise?"
It is not totally wrong, but it is more commemorative and should be used in sentences like "Ricordiamo le vittime dell'11 settembre" (=Let's commemorate the victims of 9/11)
"Remember" in a common acceptation is "ricordarsi [di]", reflexive, and needs preposition "di" .
In english, this example would be literally translated "She does not remember herself of me".
We could say "She herself does not remember me.", but that is as close to reflexive as English allows, since "remember" is not a reflexive verb.
Your literal translation does not exist in English. It is important to remember that prepositions often translate poorly from one language to another and we have to learn one expression to the other, just like "Look at" and "Look after" would be different in another language. We do say "Dream of", but "remember" takes the item or person remembered as a direct object and does not take any preposition nor reflexive pronoun. So we have to learn "remember (something or someone)" becomes "ricordarsi di (someone or something).
I'm not an English mothertongue, but I'd read it as an intensifier... isn't it?
Yes, in English "remember" is not a reflexive verb, so "She herself" puts more emphasis on her and could be interpreted as: "She and no one else" or "Even she" or "she did not have someone else do it for her", but the sentence does remind me to put the reflexive pronoun into the Italian sentence. It is not a correct translation of the Italian.
Her secretary remembers me, but she herself does not remember me.
I tend to think of ricordarsi like "to remind oneself". It helps me remember that its reflexive, even though it isnt a perfect translation.
This seems very complex just to say "she does not remember me"... I can't work out when you use the reflexive version of ricordare - which is what this is, and why you need the di - perhaps the two are simply interchangeable?!
I have found on some forums that there's no difference in meaning between "ricordare" and "ricordarsi", so you can use the verb you like better. http://forums.about.com/discussions/Italian_Language/_/Dimenticare_vs_dimenticarsi/ab-italian/9689.1?nav=messages
And the preposition "di" goes with both "ricordare" and "ricordarsi". In Italian language there are certain verbs that are followed by one of the simple prepositions. http://italian.about.com/od/verbs/a/aa031908a.htm
Sorry, but "ricordare di" is wrong if the object is a noun. "Ricordare" is transitive and needs a direct object. "Di" is allowed only if the direct object is a subordinate sentence, to introduce it.
E.g. "Ricorda di santificare le feste".
"Ricordarsi" is intransitive (like all the reflexive verbs), and always needs "di" instead.
Finally, there are no significant differences in meaning (although "ricordarsi" deals more with day-by-day routine and "ricordare" is more commemorative) , but, depending on the context, one of them can be right or wrong.
"Non ricordo nulla", "Ricordami", "Oggi ricordiamo le vittime dell'attentato", "Ricorda le mie parole" - CORRECT
"Hai ricordato fare la spesa?", "Ricordo mai il suo compleanno" - WRONG
"Ricordati di me", "Ti sei ricordato di fare la spesa?", "Non mi ricordo mai del suo compleanno" - CORRECT
"Oggi ci ricordiamo delle vittime dell'attentato" - WRONG
Thank you for that :) I couldn't find a lot of information about these verbs. I appreciate your help. Good luck with your work. Have a great day :)
So, "si" is there just to complicate things but it isn't really needed there, right? anyway what's a "reflexive pronoun"?
it is needed, just like in English: She dresses herself beautifully. (herself is the reflexive pronoun) - so reflexive pronouns are used to express that an action is done to oneself. In Italian, the verb ricordare needs reflexive pronouns (in this sentence).
Conjugation would be like this:
io mi ricordo tu ti ricordi lui si ricorda noi ci ricordiamo voi vi ricordate loro si ricordano
could you please tell me which one is the correct? As there are so many explanations
If alone, I cannot think about a correct usage of it.
It could be possible in some contexts, e.g. "Lei non mi ricorda mai nel suo diario" (= she never recalls/cite me in her diary).
I've learnt that both "si" and "di" are only needed because the verb "ricordare" needs them. Is it more common that verbs don't require a preposition and reflexive pronoun to funtion? Are there verbs don't require one but not the other?
Literal: She herself does not have remembrance of me? She does not remember me.
I'm still a little confused on the reflexive nature of 'si' here. Am I to understand this literally as "She herself does not remember me" ?
I answered "she don't remember me" but she said the correct answer is "she doesn't remember me" what are the difference between the 2 of them? Admin i need an explanation. Thanks
"she" is 3rd person singular, and when you conjugate a verb in 3rd person singular it follows certain rules. The rules are; a) If a verb ends in a "y" and a vowel before that, it get a sufix "s"
example; I buy, you buy, he/she/it buys
b) If a verb ends in a "x" and a consonant before it, it ends in "ies"
example; I try, you try, he/she/it tries
c) If a verb ends in "ch", "sh", "ss", "x", "o", it gets sufix "es"
example; I do, you do, he/she/it does This is the case in the sentence "She does not remember me"
Hope this helps, good luck :) You can see more info here http://www.englishtenses.com/third_person_singular