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Hi i'm new.I was wondering how much time will it take to learn french if I study everyday? Any tips?

It looks hard, plus that I'm learning on my own. No one in my family speaks french. Can you give some advice? It would be very helpful.

May 12, 2020

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Horsey-Girl
  1. Read the "Tips" from each lesson. They should help with grammatical rules.
  2. Pick a YouTube channel to help you with questions, grammar or even just words.
    (My favourite YouTube channel is Learn French With Alexa check her channel out!)

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

thank you so much, now i'm watching her channel, and she's great.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Horsey-Girl

Glad you like it. Xx


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

Hi,

Duolingo courses are IMHO more for the long-term.
The CEFR Spanish and French from English courses are quite long.

So my math says, that it can easily take you ~1,8-2,3 years to complete a longer tree with 158 skills, if you go more slowly, that is about 1-2 new L0 lessons per day (=7-14 new words).

So a L1 crown level (+ regular practice) or L1-L3 crown pyramid system should be possible, but probably not the highest L5 crown level.

Above numbers are based on the fact that I was able to gain my "golden owl" in my 1st Romance language (Portuguese) within one year (pre-crown era); but this tree was way shorter (69 skills, 406 lessons).

I also had used Memrise in parallel (several courses which is great to hear recorded audio by native speakers) and a bit of 50languages and Mondly on top.

And during that time jumping on 1-2 other learning resources on top besides Duolingo should not be the big problem for you.

..(...)..

If you invest multiple hours per day into your French learning and you can gain more XPs per day for Duolingo, then you may be able to complete your tree faster.

But in the end it does not count how fast you can complete it (e.g. mobile app: more easier tapping word bank exercises) but how good your accuracy rate is (what you can retain and recall).

In the end it is more the effectivity how you practice your learned words every day (RECALLING tests in the target language), if you use the www.Duolingo.com web portal to train sentence construction, freely translate verb tenses, how you drill verb infinitives, conjugations, verb stem tables, etc.

And if you also hide the multiple-choice answer options on the web or L2 French sentences or not (to focus on the listening and "in the head translations").


What I describe above might be a bit more difficult in the short- and mid-term and it surely will take you longer than just tapping around on word banks on the mobile app (where you can basically shut your brain off or watch TV in parallel).

But the end results should be better after 1,5-3,x+ years.

So just take your time, use the right (mixed) practice method and do not care too much about Duolingo language levels, Leagues, XPs and completed crown levels.

..(...)..

Always remember:

The more NEW words you learn each day, the more words of "recently learned" and old skills you need to review the following days and weeks :-)

If you go over the 20-30 new words / per day threshold, then it gets pretty challenging and your Memrise course backlog queue will quickly (over-)fill.

Memrise suggests 20 words (max) per learning session.

If you feel the power on a specific day or in the beginning, you can of course do 2-4+ sessions per day, if you do not forget about your classic (typing) reviews old older content.

I hope this helps a bit.

Best regards


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

thank you so much for the tips :D :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Horsey-Girl

Please do not re-post. It's counted as spam.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

i'm sorry. when i clicked it didn't work so i clicked a few times


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Da-real-jabbah

That is normally why there are lots of posts... not because of spammers, but because the site doesn't load that you posted a post.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Horsey-Girl

I know it's not always on purpose, just letting her know. X


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

French is a long term project. The tree here will take over a year but will be a good beginner grounding.

At this stage repeat the sentences - to get your face, tongue, and lips used to it - but don't expect you will be able to "speak French" - as in have a real conversation - anytime soon.

Try and do something every day. Learn the gender with the nouns.

Make sure you read the tips before each skill - and sentence discussions after the lesson. Take notes. And use the hover method (do not take each skill to level 5 quickly) - https://blog.duolingo.com/whats-the-best-way-to-learn-with-duolingo/ (this gives you the best chance to remember long term and to understand the material)

Plus all the usual things for studying. Eat well. Sleep well. Take mini-breaks every 10-15 minutes and long breaks every 90 minutes or so.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

thank you so much


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Djagmjar

I definitely recommend studying French outside of Duolingo. For example through reading in French and listening to podcasts, tv shows etc. And keep a notebook to take notes on what you learn!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

Thank you, I'll try to be as fast as possible 'cause they talk fast :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Simon865018

One thing to clarify is why you are learning French and what for. Work? Getting into college? Reading literature? Appreciating opera? Talking to the neighbours who just moved in from Montpelier? Surviving as a tourist for a week? I've known caterers who just wanted to be able to understand a french chef or know specific vocabulary for the kitchen. Learn what you need and the rest is superfluous. Use Duo for the general stuff and get suitable specialist books/apps for the rest.

During my time in the Navy, linguistic competence for most people anywhere in the world was defined by a single sentence; (in french) "Deux bieres, s'il vous plait. Mon ami va payer." (Two beers please. My friend will pay.) Everything else was sign language. I had to know how to track down a crane driver on a public holiday for 15.30 because we had a 250 kg helicopter engine being delivered at 16.00 and were due to sail at 18.00. Duo would have given me about half of that and the Navy gave me a technical glossary. (He didn't turn up until 16.30 - eight burly sailors had carried the thing off the truck and onboard via two gangways.)

I taught a frustrated colleague in the sales department in 5 x 1 hour lessons how to communicate by telephone with her opposite number in Strasbourg; times, dates, years 1975-99, numbers 1-100 (french telephone numbers are formatted 12.34.56.78), alphabet in French (or phonetically Alfa, Bravo, etc with French pronunciation), public holidays (jour feries), bridging days (fill-ins when there's a ph on a Tue/Thu - jours de pont), orders/invoices (commandes/factures) and a bit about the weather. Plus the two killer sentences, "Est-ce que Monsieur Lauchet (the english-speaking salesman) est la?" and "Vous repetez/parlez plus lentement svp, je telephone de l'Angleterre." She was ecstatic, the French loved her and I got a bottle of champagne at Christmas. She had "learned French" in a week.

  1. A small amount of French is appreciated by anyone. Just making the initial effort goes a long way.

  2. I'm old school; get a dictionary, a vocabulary notebook, a slim volume of grammar. And use them. Plus the online tools that people in the forums tell you about.

  3. Develop confidence; know what you know and probably more importantly, what you don't. Improvise the rest or learn phrases to inform the other party of your shortcomings. You'll never know it all. I just failed a Level 4 check because I couldn't remember what a standard tie was... Bow tie doesn't count. Miming a buttoned up collar in a clothes shop would have got me through in reality.

  4. Don't get hung up on the fine points. (Duo is not the real world - you can get a whole lot further with humans.) Be prepared to make mistakes. Pick up and remember the inevitable corrections that you will be given in good humour.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

thanks, I have a vocabulary


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sbhi112ali

Watch French series and movies, that will take your French to the next level!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

Thanks for the tip :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/shut_up990

Listen to french music, read books that are in french and/or probably watch french tv shows. you can use this yt link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRSwTgGwW2Y (it helped me so probably it can help you :>)


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    These resources may be of assistance for those starting out:

    French Notes:

    Translation Sites

    Pronunciation:

    Accents:

    Vocabulary:

    Conjugation:

    Videos:

    Free Radio

    Free TV:

    Lab:

    Stories:

    Daily News

    France 24 (dernier journal international)

    Newspapers

    Listening Practice:

    French Grammar and Vocabulary

    • français facile - focuses on the grammar.

    • ELFE - With this content you can reach a college level in French. Accents are mandatory.

    • Memrise - offers five levels of French. It has recently been updated for more professional looking content.

    • Rosetta Stone - Many libraries also offer the Rosetta Stone software. I enjoy practicing French with this resource daily. However the following audio and worksheets are available to all online.

    • rbdigital Pimsleur audio courses - Don't know whether you are in the US or Canada. If you are, most libraries offer rbdigital which gives you access to Pimsleur audio courses on your computer or phone. I'm currently enjoying one of these courses.

    Online Courses

    Library Resources

    Books


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/leonidBr__

    01LearnFrench01, hello!

    WOW!
    This is a wonderful, very valuable advice! First of all, for myself and for everyone present on this forum! I know very well how much time it takes to create such a program and then execute it. (But I need to learn it myself) Thank you very much


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

    thank you so so so much!!! I really appreciate your help


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FinnSaunde1

    I like to watch my favorite shows with the audio in French, and English subtitles on.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

    any suggestions?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheNewBridge

    1 day or 10 years. Depends on the level you want to have.You should be more specific. Learning a language can go on your entire life if you like. And scientists, doctors, tourists and creative writers all use different words so think about the direction you want to go.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

    I just want to understand and talk french, not excellent


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

    For an English speaker (because English and French share vocab) - at least 2200 hours - 750 of that is a professional class. (You may be able to self teach but that always takes longer.) This is not for "excellent", just getting by.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

    I am learning it, because I like the language. Not in a high level


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

    My numbers was not for a high level - but yes, beyond beginner.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lorel90

    What is your native language? If you speak a Romance language it can take about a year, but you need more resources in addition to Duolingo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

    My language is a Balkan language


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350
    • a year at a couple of hours a day.

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FinnSaunde1

    I also like to use Google translate whenever I learn a new word. I’ll go into conversations and speak French for the French microphone and see if it understands what I’m saying. If it doesn’t, then I work on my French accent more.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/criistalitxs

    thank you, I'll try it

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