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A few months ago I made the mistake of buying Rosetta Stone. At the time I thought it was a good idea to help me learn Spanish. This was before I knew Duolingo existed.

I have had 4 years of Spanish in a classroom setting, but didn't learn squat. I knew words, but didn't know how to put them together. Very hodge podge sentences. A month of Rosetta Stone did nothing to help this. It wasn't until after reading some articles on language learning that I came to find out about Duoingo. After only a few weeks of Duolingo, I have a much better understanding of sentence structure. Now, I am reading news and watching movies in Spanish.

Rosetta Stone no es necesario!

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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I have to agree with you on this. Regular classes and Rosetta Stone (only had a trial version, never purchased a full one) just do not come close. I just keep thinking back to the first lesson I did, and only memorizing words. Not too helpful unless I was in a spelling bee. Duolingo has really empowered me to actually use the language that I'm learning, instead of saying "I know Spanish" when I can't even answer basic questions.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lumna
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I agree.I did the demo but it was poor., If you really want to integrate DL with others tool. You can use "busuu", "Ma France" and "Extra videos".

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/drappyrootz

I feel like I just repeat words without really understanding what I'm saying with RS. DL is much more user friendly with providing explanations and translations. It's also nice being surrounded by people who share the same interest in language learning.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/E.T.s_Son
E.T.s_Son
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The community is one of the best aspects of Duolingo along with it's thorough explanation of spanish grammar and how to construct sentences.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/drappyrootz

Rosetta has an online community on their website, but they are not as social/helpful as the DL community.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/E.T.s_Son
E.T.s_Son
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That might be another reason why Duolingo is better LoL

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cbriantx

I had the same experience as you. I used the trial version and didn't feel like I was learning Spanish, just a bunch of words. Plus, I got bored with RS and lost interest. Duo does a great job of teaching the language and keeping it interesting and engaging, which keeps me coming back each day to practice.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Justin-B
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No estoy de acuerdo. I believe that both Duolingo and Rosetta Stone are excellent learning tools. I use both. I particularly like the help that is provided by the Duo community and the "immersion" (no English) of RS. The main problem I have with RS is the cost. I purchased the first two Spanish levels and was able to complete the last three levels free of charge through my employer. Buena suerte con sus estudios.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

People differ. RS works well for some, Duo for others. Cost is a biggie in favor of Duo, but one could probably take a look at RS forums and find people that don't like Duo

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bill-Roca

See my comments elsewhere in this thread about the study that showed it took about 34 hours on Duolingo for an average newbie student to learn as much as they would with 55 hours of Rosetta Stone, roughly what you'd learn in one semester of college.

Then there's the cost comparison ...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/drappyrootz

RS will probably get better as I learn the fundamentals

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/-Katrina.-
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I agree. I bought Rosetta Stone, but after about a month of using it, the most I could probably tell you was some words. :( Then I heard about Duolingo, which is waaaaaaaaaaaaay better. Go Duolingo! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gray_edgar

¡Es la verdad! Rosetta no es necesario. Hi there! My name's Edgar, and I'm fluent in both English and Español. Let me know if you need help! Spanish is so much easier than people realize. Spanish has a very simple pronounciation system. Just learn the five vowels and rolling your "r's" and that's it! Although Spanish verbs are rather scary, Spanish shares so many grammatical functions with English. Also, unlike english, Spanish is a phonetic language. Trust me, I know you can do it!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/drappyrootz

Thanks Edgar! I need someone to converse with. I'm from Ohio. Not many people here speak spanish, so it would be great to have someone to converse with.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/luketkin

I bought Rosseta stone spanish level 1 to 3 four years ago. It cost me 750 new zealand dollars. What a waste - i got easily bored and it often dragged. I discovered duolingo one week ago and am having so much fun - every moment i can spare i am on this. I might go back on Rosseta Stone after im done with duo lingo ( a while i know ) . But anyway - im glad someone is enjoying it as much as i am .

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AviAdventure
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There will come times that it is a little less fun but push through it like the article says and it really will be rewarding and open more doors. I was there. Don't give up! :-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jpcirillo1

I had a similar experience with Italian. I find the programs to be very similar but I enjoy the social aspect of Duo more. I noticed though that as I got higher up in Rosetta that the grammar was more accurate. Even today I detect errors higher up in the tree and I am not even close to finishing! However, for a service that is "free" who really can complain.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheLizzyIzzi

"I noticed that as I got higher up in Rosetta that the grammar was more accurate."

This is my only complaint about Duolingo -- they don't really explain all of the grammar and nuances of the language rules. In the early stages they do a pretty good job but later on they tend to refer back to the same old-same old. Thankfully there is a pretty supportive community behind them to pick up the extra work.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jpcirillo1

The community helps a lot. I do a mix of duo/rosetta, one hour a week with an Italian teacher one on one, and pen pals/italian meet up groups. Also reading helps a lot.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AviAdventure
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The classes probably helped a little more than you realized. For instance I know how to conjugate Spanish without having to really think about it because of school. This is an issue on German and French for me since I was never taught the rules and duolingo doesn't really go into that. It would be nice if they has a conjugation course to pass for each.

Congratulations on your progress keep at it and it will get easier with time. You can also try interpals.net That has been amazing for me. If you want you can friend me on there. My name is CandentLion on there as well.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/drappyrootz

I'll check it out. I had 4 years of spanish in school. you're right. It has helped a lot! thanks for the info.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheLizzyIzzi

And French conjugation is pretty crappy at times. There are sort-of rules but French loves to deviate from them.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/julia.holum

I have also worked both with Rosetta Stone and DuoLingo, and I felt the same way. I really like that DL explains things a little more. I can mouse over a word to get it's translation, or at the beginning of a lesson have a few things explained to me. With Rosetta one has to just intuitively figure it out, or just guess. Now that I am coming through DL a little more, I have been understanding what I had learned in RS better than I had when I was using it! I think they probably would be good tools to use together though, so maybe I will have my hubby re-install it on our computer soon...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/drappyrootz

I plan to use rosetta stone once I complete the spanish tree. I think i'll appreciate RS more after using DL

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/js.dani

I've learned Spanish with Duolingo for just a week now, with no prior knowledge whatsoever, and I can already formulate simple sentences in Spanish. Best learning place. :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Frankvzky

Both are good but Duolingo is by far better for my style

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Audrey5775

Yes, I have read many app reviews that say (The Person) payed $150 for Rosetta Stone, then found free DL.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lenajk

I agree with u. Duo Lingo helped me to get to know the sentence structure and grammar in a short time. It is so helpful :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/refusenick
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I too wasted time and money on other programmes before discovering DL. RS was especially disappointing given it's reputation. Probably a good idea, though, to vary sources and methods. Change things up a bit while maintaining DL as your primary tool.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bill-Roca

Two research studies by the same team, using the same methodology, found that it took an estimated 34 hours of study with Duolingo and 55 hours of study with Rosetta Stone to learn one college semester's worth of Spanish.

Save your money!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bill-Roca

Here are links to the two studies, done by the same Professor:

http://resources.rosettastone.com/CDN/us/pdfs/Measuring_the_Effectiveness_RS-5.pdf ["Main Findings ... 2. After 55 hours of study with Rosetta Stone we can expect with 95% confidence that the average WebCAPE score will be on the level that will be sufficient to cover the requirements for one semester of study in a college that offers six semesters of Spanish.' ]

http://static.duolingo.com/s3/DuolingoReport_Final.pdf ["MAIN RESULTS ... The study estimated that a person with no knowledge of Spanish would need between 26 and 49 hours (or 34 hours on average) to cover the material for the first college semester of Spanish. This result is based on the language test’s cut-­off point for the second college semester and the 95% Confidence Interval of the effectiveness measure."]

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cbriantx

I think it would be great for DL to include some form of benchmark along the trees. Maybe just a side comment that says "If you made it past this skills unit you've made it through the equivalent of one-semester of college Spanish" or even just something like what percentage of users make it past specific units? This information would be a motivating factor for a lot of people.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Alia.Mohammad

Rosetta Stone makes somethings Incomprehensible, for example; you do not know how they conjugate verbs, you do not know how they make plurals,grammars are foggy, etc. Duolingo makes everything understandable and you do not have to search for extra information, you have every thing you need in your hand. Thanks Duolingo

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pobrecito13

I have an old copy of RS, probably close to 10 years old now, and I have heard that it has changed since then. It was free using it through the library when I was first started using it. Then they stopped offering the subscription to the library, but someone gave me a copy they weren't using. So for me there was no cost. Would I pay retail for it? No way! But I do think it works. I used it on and off for a couple years, then started taking classes at the local community college. I would say that that is when my Spanish started to take off. RS gave me a head start with pronunciation and vocabulary, but it wasn't enough to have a conversation. Then really learning the conjugation of verbs allowed me to be able to converse in Spanish. DL also lacks in the verb conjugation department as well, in my opinion, but with the discussion board you can find other sites to supplement DL. For me, I need the structure of a classroom, but with a desire and dedication I think it is possible to learn without that. I have started two other languages here, but find the same problem with a lack of instruction on verb conjugation. Although with the discussion board there are others willing to help out and provide links to other useful sites. I think both RS and DL are useful tools for language learning, but neither will make you fluent by themselves. Now based on cost, DL all the way, but if you can get a free or lost cost used copy of RS it is a good tool to have as well. But both are only one of many tools that you need to put in your language learning toolbox.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheLizzyIzzi

Yeah Duo does lack in the verb conjugation department. I wish there was a side game or something that just focused on verb conjugation.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wendilee1956

I was just working on my first lesson in Spanish and there were little sidebars explaining the word conjugations.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheLizzyIzzi

They explain things early on but as you get father on in the program they stop explaining things so much -- or they refer back to the same lessons which don't really help that much. This is especially true in the French lessons; Spanish appears to have more notes/explanations. But in both cases conjugation is harder than English just from all the different forms. And it all makes sense when it's explained but remembering it is the challenge.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/zendog99

I am trying to learn Spanish and am new to Duo and fairly new to RS. I see the benefits of both, especially the group sessions in RS. I see now that to have RS maintain its value one must continue to pay for the extended services, such as group discussions that follow RS as milestones at the level of learning. It is one thing to work online in Duo, it is quite another to speak in a group situation sin notas with RS. But, there is a cost to RS and there is no denying that. I will see how it goes.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/newbi.coles97

i have had rosetta stone before, and it is helpful, but duolingo is better

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/anayamehta

Completely agree. This is exactly what I was thinking as I started.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tanawoot

hello

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wendilee1956

Hola

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Marido_de_Maru

Well, Rosetta Stone is helpful at getting more vocabulary. I am half-way through level 2 there. I use LSLC and Pimsleur as well along with some workbooks. Pimsleur and the work books originally did the most for my speaking. Also, Madrigal's Magic Key is excellent. I have barely used it, and that tiny bit of use has gone a long way. I have now married my Mexican love, and she doesn't know much English and doesn't like to speak English. She gets too frustrated. I am trying to get that to change, though. She has done the whole Duo for Spanish to English, and is now doing the reverse tree. I wish I knew some good things to get her for learning English... I got her the Pimsleur, we need to get an old computer to set up the Rosetta Stone de una pagina de pirata... but there must be other stuff that is good for her to learn English..

3 years ago