1. Forum
  2. >
  3. Topic: German
  4. >
  5. so confused and lost


so confused and lost

i am at level 12 and about to start the lesson Adjectives: Accusative. i haven't just passed all the lessonh so far but also have mastered them all. however, despite all the info i have gained, i cannot figure out the syntax of words! i am so confused and cannot find which word i should use first or at the end/beginning of a sentence! there is also another issue that bothers me. i have mastered all the lessons so far because the sentences in the tests get familiar and i memorize all of them unconsciously whereas i want logic and to be sure why i use those words in those specific cases. i have never seen a language that is so without rules... it is so difficult. :o(((

August 12, 2012



The meaning doesn't change at all, but the emphasis does. I may be mistaken, but if you were to translate out the first sentence with emphasis it would be: She doesn't see THE GERMAN MAN. As opposed to not seeing something else, like a book, or table. Whereas in the second sentence the emphasis is on her: SHE doesn't see the German man. As opposed to her friend or father not seeing him. This is also a great reference for word order: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~german/Grammatik/WordOrder/WordOrder.html


Actually German is one of the languages with strictest Rules.. Once you understand the basic Rules, then you understand the complex ones. What confusion do you have with syntax?


for example, frequency adverbs, conjunctions and especially prepositions, they all have specific places in a sentence. when you make a sentence in english, you are certain which to use where, after what word. in german, it is not like that. this is especially valid with prepositions. i don't remember those long sentences to give examples right now, but i will when i come across again in the tests.


ok, i got one. "den deutschen Mann sieht sie nicht" from what i have learnt, i would do this as "sie sieht nicht der deutschen Mann" ok, i understand i think some changes can be done to write it alternatively but why does it have to be so various... etc. that makes me confused. also comes to mind what kind of a meaning difference it add when you change the syntax, etc.


@avatarowoe oh, thanks so much. if that is correct things are clearer for me right now.


ahahahhahhahh that is cool (love the site avatarowoe posted) >> "That said, word order is a complex aspect of language, never wholly mastered by non-native speakers. Very few rules cover all possibilities, and context often trumps other considerations. When Robert Frost writes, "Something there is that doesn't love a wall," it's poetic; if someone with a foreign accent says the same thing in conversation, it sounds like Yoda."

Learn German in just 5 minutes a day. For free.