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Words not counting as practiced (Portuguese)

Once the Words tab reappeared, I started working on strengthening all my one-bar words, as I had completed the tree and had it completely golden. (And despite that, I had more than 1,000 one-bar words! Talk about disheartening).

I have since reduced the number to about 500, but there are a lot of words that come up in practice sessions but do not count as having been seen and do not get strengthened.

For example, according to my words tab, I haven't seen the word "eles" in 5 months and it's at one bar of strength. I in fact see it, and every other pronoun (minus "tu"), multiple times in every practice session. The same thing happens to me with many other words.

I sent an e-mail to Duolingo support about it on July 10th with a list of 42 words that I had seen in practice sessions that morning that had not registered as having been seen and that had not strengthened. I have received no response other than the automatic reply.

Is this just me? Is it happening to anyone else? I have essentially given up on practicing my weakest words since so many that I do practice don't get strengthened. It seems like a waste of time.

July 30, 2014

14 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lindaljc

I'm with you on this one! Following your advice, I copied just my 'one bar' words into an excel spreadsheet; depressing! - 1763 words at one bar, of which 435 were down as seen within the last week, 41 of them 'yesterday'! I reported this to bchan, who has been most helpful in the past, as I did not want to keep clogging up the discussions with this! No response as yet. I am full of admiration that you have managed to reduce your number so greatly; how did you do that?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ceaer

I had been doing 100 XP of practice a day, which usually strengthened around 30 1-bar words. At that rate the list reduces fairly quickly, by a couple hundred words a week. But the decay rate also seemed very fast - a lot of words were back to 1 bar within 3-4 days - which slowed me down.

And then I noticed that certain words would not strengthen no matter how many times I saw them and were in fact not counting as having been seen. I got the sentence "Você escreve o jornal" this morning and per my words tab, I last saw "você" two days ago, "escreve" three weeks ago, and "jornal" (1 bar) three months ago!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lindaljc

That's a lot of practice! Well done, no wonder you are the first member of the 100000XP club! Congratulations for that too! I've got a long way to go, but maybe I'll do similar and set myself a target each day. I like to keep my whole tree golden, and ideally I'd like my words to be golden too, but I think that will take a long time!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/luiz.calheiros

Ceaer, the strengthening work your miss translations in a logarithm that I cannot explain how works, if you do not miss translate eles probably you won't focus on it in strengthening... at least it is what people say in the forum.

I hope it helps ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ceaer

No, I'm saying that when I do strengthen it - it comes up in a sentence that I practice - it is not counted as being strengthened. My words tab lists "eles" at 1 bar of strength (out of 4 bars) and says I haven't seen it in 5 months. I actually see it quite frequently and I translate it correctly all the time, but that viewing and translating isn't registered somehow.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lindaljc

Have you worked out any way to know which skills most need strengthening from the word list? My whole tree is golden, so that does not help me!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ceaer

When it first came back, it listed what skills the words were from - so then I could sort my weakest word list by skill to see which skills had the most 1 bar words. Unfortunately, they updated it to show the part of speech (article, noun, verb, adjective, preposition) rather than the skill. So now there's no way to know which skills need the most work.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lindaljc

I feared as much!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lindaljc

I have submitted a comment through the support tab, though I suspect there won't be any response.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Melarish

Has this fixed for you now? I'm getting the same thing in Spanish. Very discouraging to hear staff hasn't even acknowledged this bug in 12 months!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ceaer

No, it's still not fixed, and I never got a reply to the e-mail I sent support. I have stopped using the words tab; there's no point with this bug.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Melarish

Is there a difference if the word appears in its original skill? Say, the word for "his" can come up in any sentence but it was originally shown in "Pronouns". Would it strengthen if you studied the specific lesson it appears in?

That said, I just did "Household" and "telefono" was in a multiple choice task but it still says "seen 1 year ago"...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ceaer

I don't believe it makes a difference, no.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Melarish

I noticed a funny thing in my Spanish words. The word 'ese' ('that') is listed twice - as a pronoun and as a determiner. Likewise 'mucho' ('a lot') and 'poco' ('a little') are both an adverb and determiner. In all cases, one of the two is very strong and the other says 'last seen 1 year ago', so it seems every time you see the word, it always counts as the same one, even if it's a different part of speech.

That said, there's only one 'telefono' and it still hasn't strengthened...

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