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Some Common mistakes in French (added c'est/il est)

Here are some helpful guidelines to those who are studying French:

Common Mistakes

The second step when learning a language is to build up a new vocabulary, but keep in mind to say those words like a French speaker would. Tell-tale mistakes are:

Saying the letter: H. Words like "hôtel" ( it is just "otel" ).

Saying consonants at the end of a word. We don't pronounce most D, T and S when they are the last letter of a word.

For example, I hear the word "intéressant" pronounced "in-tay-ray-ssant". It should be "in-tay-ress-ssan". No T!

Another common mistake is to read "riz" (rice) as [reez] when it should simply be [ree]. Also, if you pronounce the T at the end of a noun or an adjective, it will sound like you are saying the feminine version of that word. For example, if you say [klee-ant], I will understand "cliente" (female customer). The masculine version is [klee-an].

Warning: Don't overdo the sound "ou." It should sound like the English "oo." If you can't hear a difference between "u" and "ou", you're doing it wrong. One common mistake is to pronounce "beaucoup" like this: [bo ku]. It makes it sounds like you said "beau cul" (meaning "nice ass"). So, be careful! Say [bo koo] to rhyme with a cooing pigeon [coo!] The trick to make the English "oo" sound French is to NOT elongate it.

Making all E (é and è included) sound like AY. The correct rules are as follow:

1) A plain E at the end of the word is to be skipped (replace it by a hyphen in your head)

2) É at the end of a word is to be pronounced. For example, "porte" is said [port-] and "porté" is [por-tay].

3) If a three-syllable word has a plain E in the middle, replace it with a hyphen in your head. Squash the E and read the word as if it were two syllables. For example, "acheter" would become "ach-ter" and would be pronounced [ash-tay].

Saying a long N when it's the last letter of a word or saying a short one when it's followed by an E. Getting it wrong in both cases is actually quite common, but it still drives me up the wall. The letter N should be super-short if at the end of a word (a millisecond), but it needs to be dragged about four times more than you think is decent if it's followed by an "E."

Three words that are murdered all the time are: "semaine" (it's not pronounced "say-main" but "suh-mennnnnnnn"), "personne" (say [pair-sonnnnnnnn]), "téléphone" (it should be [tay-lay-fonnnn]) and "bonne" [bonnnnnnnnnn].

Here is a list of some other words that should come with little warning bells:

"Pour". Saying "pour" (for) to indicate duration of time is a typical mistake made by native English speakers. In French, we say "pendant" or "durant" when a situation has a starting point and a finishing point. For example, "J'ai appris le français pendant 3 ans" (I started learning French at some point in the past and I stopped three years later).

"Pendant" or "durant". Saying "pendant" or "durant" (for) when meaning "since" is another common mistake. "Depuis" is used when a situation is still going on. You should say "J'apprends le français depuis 3 ans" (I've been learning French for 3 years).

"Toujours" (always), "jamais" (never), "souvent" (often) should not be wedged between the subject and the verb in French. Put them after the verb. Ex: "J'étudie souvent le soir" (I often study during the evenings).

With words like "beaucoup"(many/a lot), "un peu" (a little), "assez" (enough of something) and "pas" (no/any) you should always use "de" (or d') and no articles. Do not use "des," even if it's plural. And please, please pronounce "de" as [duh], not [day]. Ex : "J'ai lu beaucoup de livres" (I've read many books).

With "c'est", always use a masculine adjective. Too often I hear "C'est belle!" It should be "C'est beau". For general advice on gender, please see my article: Gender Obsession in French: Chivalry or Burden?

Other problematic words are known as "false friends". For more on that subject, False Friends Info

Learning the Rhythm

The third step to true fluency is learning how to pace words and the space (or lack) between words. Should you stress the first, middle or last syllable? Personally, I find that the last syllable is the shortest in French, but all other syllables have roughly the same length. If we compare the pronunciation of the word "television" for example: I've been told to say it (in English) a bit like "TELLL-a-vee-gee-oNNN." From my point of view, English speakers sing their endings. It drags and drags. French speakers don't like that. We are more "economical" with our endings (I mean plain old lazy). "Télévision" in French, it would be "tay-lay-vee-zeeon." No capitals, because there is no emphasis anywhere. The only special thing is the tiny ‘n’ at the end.

Liaisons As for how we string words together, there is a thing called "liaison." It's a sort of bridge between the end of one word and the beginning of the next word. But French speakers don't do it all the time. Here are the rules laid out for you:

  • Liaisons are made when a word finishes with a consonant and the next word starts with a vowel.
  • Liaisons must be made between article and nouns. For example: "un," "les" and "des."
  • Liaisons must also be made between a subject and a verb. For example: "nous", "vous", "ils" and "elle."
  • Liaisons must be made between possessive adjectives and nouns. For example: "mon," "ton," "son" and "leurs."
  • Liaison with "comment" (how) and "sous" (under) are strongly advised.
  • Other liaisons are optional. They vary according to taste and geography.
  • Liaison with "et" (and) are forbidden.

Now, let's see how it works. It's quite simple really.

  • Double the last consonant and carry it across to the next word. This way, you can leave a gap between two words, but still link them. For example: un example = un Nexampl-

  • If the last consonant is an S, don't pronounce it. Carry the letter Z across instead. For example: nous avons = noo Zavon-

Common mistakes:

Leaving no gaps at all, so a sentence like "Nous avons des oiseaux" sounds like [noozavondayzwazo].

Saying a subject (like "ils") and dragging the last consonant (so it becomes [eelzzz]) while thinking of the verb that should come next.

My last piece of advice is to pay attention to how natives speak. Take notes. You will discover some cute short cuts and weird links that are trendy in your area (or in the place you intend to visit). This will help you to blend in hugely.

That’s it for now! I've covered all the ground I was hoping to. I hope you liked it and found it useful. Keep practicing and good luck with it all!

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Added from a question below; these are basic infos but there are more complicated usage for each.

Here are some that must know about prepositional IN from English

EN - is more for countries / places

En France (female countries that does not need la)

En a certain Language Je le sais en Anglais , i know it in English

EN AS ADVERB Could also mean it/ to recall something Le journal? J'en ai acheté un, The journal? I have bought one literally I have bought the journal one

AU - at the / aux - at the (plural place)

au supermarché, at the supermarket

DANS - into/ put in / inside something

dans ton sac, in your bag

CHEZ - at someone's house

nous allons chez moi; we are going into my house.

*Links to see for wider scope on En and Dans


C'est vs Il est

I have to add this because i still fall with the trap between these two

C'est and il est are the root forms, used for impersonal expressions and general comments: It's interesting, It's nice, It's fortunate, It's too bad, etc.

When talking about specific people, things, or ideas, c'est and il est may change.

  • C'est becomes ce sont when followed by a plural noun. In spoken French, though, c'est is often used anyway.

  • Il est becomes elle est, ils sont, or elles sont, as appropriate depending on the gender and number of the noun that it is replacing or modifying. Ce sont des Français ? Non, des Italiens. Are they French? No, Italian. Voici Alice - elle est professeur. This is Alice - she's a teacher. Despite their similar meanings, the expressions c'est and il est are not interchangeable - there are rules for using each one. The following table summarizes the different things that can be used after each of them.


IL EST | C'EST

Adjective describing a person V|S Adjective describing a situation

  • Il est fort, cet homme. | J'entends sa voix, c'est bizarre.
  • (That man is strong.) | (I hear his voice, it's weird.)
  • Elle est intelligente. | C'est normal !
  • (She is smart.) | (That's normal!)

Unmodified adverb V|S Modified adverb

  • Il est tard. | C'est trop tard.
  • (It's late.) | (It's too late.)
  • Elles sont ici. | C'est très loin d'ici.
  • (They are here) | (It's very far from here.)

Unmodified noun | Modified noun

  • Il est avocat. | C'est un avocat.
  • (He's a lawyer.) | (He's a lawyer.)
  • Elle est actrice. | C'est une bonne actrice.
  • (She's an actress.) | (She's a good actress.)

Prepositional phrase (people) V|S Proper name

  • Il est à la banque. | C'est John. (That's John.)
  • (He's at the bank.)
  • Elle est en France. | Stressed pronoun
  • (She's in France.) | C'est moi. (That's me.)

(from about.com)


Bon Apprentissage! :D

July 31, 2014

67 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/italical

Exactly what I was going to write! :P Great article.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Khajiit7952

I wish I had seen this starting out, as I've had to figure out/about.com all of this :D. I gave you a lingot anyway, simply for the effort you put into this. I may eventually do a reverse course and make a list just like yours for french speakers :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Piyaali

Thank you so much. This is fantastic stuff. You can find some of it online but the way you have written it is very interactive and fun!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheLazyOtter

Thanks for this. I'll probably have to keep coming back to this, seems like a lot of mistakes I currently or will make.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdrianJosh

no problem! some of these mistakes still haunts me at times haha..


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DutchDuoL

That's awesome, thanks for this!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdrianJosh

no problème! :) glad it helps you!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/heysweetie

Great ! I'll keep them in mind when I learn French. One lingot for your great job!!!


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