Learn Finnish on Duolingo!
[Edit: I'm moving this post to the Finnish forum. While changing the topic of a post is generally frowned upon so long after it being first posted, I'm making an exception with this post, so that it will be easier to refer to in later posts about course contents.]
Welcome to Quarantine Finnish!
It’s finally here and it’s even stranger than you would have expected. Celebrate juhannus, Midsummer, belatedly by learning Finnish! The Duolingo Finnish course has 35 skills and we need you to help us fin(n)ish it, so that we can eventually start adding more content. There are still lots of alternative translations and hints missing, and we need you to report them by using the small flag you can see in the banner telling you whether you got the answer right.
The unusual spring we’ve had has shaped the course in unexpected ways. The emphasis of the course is more on things you can do both in urban and rural environment during a lockdown than it might have been had things gone differently. Here are some of the things the basics of which you can learn by taking the Duolingo Finnish course:
- using basic greetings and polite phrases
- using short interjections to tell how you feel about things
- introducing yourself and other people
- talking about your pets
- talking TO your pets
- telling what languages you speak or do not speak or want to speak
- telling where you live or would like to live, and which places you would like to visit
- complementing and encouraging other people
- telling the time
- being a customer in a café or a restaurant and talking about food in general
- the weird things Finns eat and drink
- the weird things Finns do and own
- just weird things in general
- talking about your hobbies
- talking about nature and things you can do in nature
- shopping for clothes
- talking about your home
- some very basic tech talk
- being wholesome
Only the first 8 rows currently have Tips & Notes on grammar, but more will be added during the next few months. Here are some of the grammatical features introduced in the course regardless of whether they appear in the notes or not:
- pronouncing Finnish
- understanding vowel harmony
- using word order to change the meaning of a sentence
- using the question particle
- using negative forms of verbs
- conjugating the most common verb groups in the present tense indicative
- a short introduction to the conditional
- forming and using the nominative case in both singular and plural
- how to use the partitive case in the singular
- verbs with partitive objects
- how to use the inessive case in the singular
- a shorter introduction to the adessive and the essive cases in the singular
- how to use pronouns and particles to tell where something is situated
- forming nationality words
- forming simple compound words
To repeat, please report anything that seems to be missing, or looks or sounds odd by clicking on the flag icon found in the banner telling you whether you got the answer right or not. The further you progress, the more things you will likely find to report. Do not hesitate to ask questions! The contributors are very willing to answer any query you may make either on the Finnish forum or in the sentence discussions.
Good luck! Onnea!
Hi Annika, nice to see you here again, seems that most of the old gang slowly gravitate towards here. :)
Testing out wasn't so bad, I think I got about two thirds on the intro test, then took a test at the last checkpoint and that was it. They were the easy question types, though, mostly just word tapping or selection, hardly any writing. Now that I switched to keyboard, I make more mistakes.
Yes, I have kept practising most of the time in between, or at least reading when I was too busy to do more.
Oh gosh, I'd forgotten about the non-keyboard option... now I feel less bad about only getting about halfway when testing out X-) I think I had to do the last bit of the tree about 8 times or something, and in the end it made me just write "hiiri" every time, I think the owl was feeling sorry for me...
I'm very impressed with your sisu in learning Finnish! B-) I need to get some of that for my Russian...
I'd actually forgotten about the options too, that's why I did the test on default. If I thought about it, I think I'd actually choose the keyboard option to see how far it would get me. But I'm not deleting my progress now. :P
I wish my sisu would show in some other places, too, but I'm glad it somehow works here.
Hi annika_a!, I think I remember you from immersion, or maybe it is Russian SD's? Anyway, @widle, don't shoot the messenger, but according to duome you have a golden owl in German only. In Finnish you tested out to level 5. It might have opened up the whole tree for you to work on, but you haven't yet finnished it, at least not according to duome. I may be wrong. Instead of a golden owl, it shows the little green Duo avatar.
Ah, that makes sense, jzsuzsi, thank you. Also, up until a few years ago, the golden owl that widle and annika-a have earned at the bottom of their learn page would have sported a Finnish flag, as in widle's avatar. Now they are all the same golden statue, no matter the language or the crown level achieved.
Yes, I know about duome, but I can't claim to know all its features, it seems to grow constantly. I know that I have 35 crowns for 35 skills, which looks correct. Don't know how they award the owls.
Thanks, I've had this avatar for ages, made it as part of some bring-Finnish campaign wave. I think there were more of us with similar avatars.
The tree means all the skills for each language. Once you've finished all the skills, a happy golden owl appears at the bottom and remains there. Reverse tree is basically «learning» another language the other way around, or both ways: learning Chinese from English, then English from Chinese.
Dear Mari & team,
Congratulations on the great course! I can't somehow believe this moment is here, after all these years of waiting... I promised I'd be back to Duolingo to test this course out, and here I am, after having seen Mari interviewed in an article by no less than Yle, the Finnish version of BBC!! :-)
I tested out to about the middle of the tree and then had to fight a bit with check point 3 and a lot more with the last one to get my owl (don't owls wear flags anymore, btw?). I didn't have the sound on, so I don't know anything about that, but I liked the sentences, the choices of words taught, and the general feel of the course. I was also very impressed by the level of stuff taught at about the half point and certainly at the end -- the tree looks short, but it must be pretty packed with knowledge!
There are quite some alternative translations missing (as is natural at this point), and I had to use a lot more gerunds than I would normally have done to get to the end, but it's certainly very mature already. In a totally unscientific but typical comparison, it seems more mature to me (ie I got through it quicker) than the Swedish course did when that was first launched in beta many years ago. :-p So well done, everyone involved!
I just sent you a message on another site and of course the first thing I notice after that is your comment! I'm glad you like the course. I should warn you that the second half misses even more alternative translations and even some hints. And yes, I miss the flags too.
Hi Mari! :-) Thanks for your message!
I never go to that other place (either) anymore, but I saw your message in my email now. Actually, it's not Australia, it's that fabulous little country next door that has been doing very well during the recent troubles. But she's already doing the course! I sent her the link of your interview on Yle, and she got a bit addicted straight away...
I did finish the course already, and reported whatever I could find. I ended up getting quite annoyed at all the broken radios, haha. If I can keep my motivation up with the current heat and it being the summer holidays, I'll practice some more and try to chase some more bugs.
You must be exhausted after all this?! Is it a strange feeling to be in beta?
There were so many radios that had to be fixed! Or rather, I had to do that check point so often that I came across many broken radios, and they all had to be fixed, not repaired... :-D
I tried to watch some video interview thingee, but gave up pretty quickly because the second person in view (so not you) could actually not be heard at all! So I never got to your part. I'll see later if it was something in my settings...
annika_a, could you paste a link to that interview? I couldn't find it. I did find this article: https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/duolingo_launches_its_most-requested_course_ever_finnish/11414976
I'd like to remind everybody that DL courses are created by VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTORS, who spend a lot of their free time doing this. So thank you very much @Zzzzz... and @Anna928307 for your dedicated work and the tons of hours you spent on learning how to use the incubator, getting info about suitable vocabulary and grammar, adapting everything to the CEFR standards and finally choosing the skill topics/contents, adding thousands of words/lexemes and phrases/sentences, years of work so that people all over the world can start learning Finnish for free! Yay! :o)
Thank you! I'm so excited to get learning!
Edit: I never knew sauna was Finnish!
Yes, it's the main representative of a very exclusive club: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Finnish_origin
(Well, I probably talk about salmiakki even more...but never about rapakivi! X-D )
In my native language there's also a word of Finnish origin, łajba:
It comes from laiva and was borrowed through Russian, where it exists as лайба. You may know the Russian word already:
Last year I went to Finland and I loved the country and the Finns, but unfortunately I only knew Hei and Hei Hei. :/ I'm so happy that this course is out! I've been waiting for a long time, but I'm pleased with the experience overall. The tips are fantastic (especially the Star Trek reference, Beam me up in the tips for Good Luck! and the ABBA Knowing Me, Knowing You reference in Basics 2 Tips!!) and actually learning Finnish is somehow making me happy! The language of the happiest people in the world is fun to learn too! Although, I have one query. For the accents, is it just me or are there no buttons below the text function for the accented letters? Other than that, however, I LOVE THIS COURSE!! :) Kiitos Duolingo Team and all course contributors! I love the effort that you put in to make this course, keep it up! :)
I know I'm late to the party but better late than never, eh? I am incredibly excited to finally see a Finnish course on here after 6 years of waiting and wishing and I am definitely failing to express my enthisiasm in this post. Anyway, after having abandoned Duolingo for some years, somehow yesterday I thought I might check the incubator and there it was: The desperately awaited Finnish course! Kiitos, Mari and the rest of the team!
Congrats on a successful launch, Mari and Team!
So far, I've befriended a wizard, met my alter ego the Viking cat, learnt how to order coffee, and am fast approaching the most delectable skill of the entire course. My mouth is watering already!
I'd tell you to relax and rest on your laurels, but the contributor grind never ends. :')
I can't tell you how happy I am that Finnish has been added to Duolingo. I first looked for it here about 18 months ago, and had to find another route to begin my studies, but since I read on the English language version of YLE uutiset two days ago that the Finnish version of Duolingo had been launched, I've had difficulty tearing myself away from it!
Kiitos oikein paljon!
Thrilled for this! I have had an acquaintance who has lived in Finland for many years, and I think my Finnish is already approaching hers. :) I have already steamrolled my way to the end, but am taking my time getting to the 5 crowns. I know a lot of cases and verb forms and usage notes are missing from the tips so far, and so once I passed the point where the tips stop, I got increasingly lost. I know I can get this information elsewhere, but the author of the tips is so witty that I'd prefer just to wait for the Duo tips to appear.
One thing I'd like to comment on: Compared to other Duolingo courses, each lesson is very dense. I think it would be okay to break a lot of the lessons out into one grammar point per lesson, and even to have lessons that are mostly vocabulary and no new grammar. For one thing, because of the hyperspeed approach to Finnish grammar, I feel like my Finnish vocabulary at the end of the course is smaller than it should be. I know that it's a work in progress, so that's just my input.
I really appreciate all the hard work the volunteers have done to bring this course together. Kiitos!
Just a little thing. In the presentation of Hungarian, it is written that it is the only european language do not belonging the indo-european area. But, of course, it is wrong, because Finnish is also a non I-E language. Both are distant cousins from this big family which is the finno-ugrian area :) Like Estonian, by the way. Should be nice to be able to learn it. (Whom to speak out to ask other languages to study? :))
Hmm, where is this presentation? I only find "Hungarian is an odd one in Europe as it is not an Indo-European language." on the Incubator page.
It might be that that text about Hungarian refers to it being the only non-Indo-European European language on Duolingo, and was written back when that was true.
Then there's also Basque, and Sami, etc...
I just made it through the last level of Finnish on Duolingo. I only completed level 1 between checkpoint 3 and 4, and I will still hang around to practice the language skills. I just want to say a massive THANK YOU for making this intuitive and high quality course. I can't imagine getting started on a language like Finnish without you guys. I loved the quirkiness and the humor throughout the course. I also can also tell from the grammar hints that you guys put in a lot of effort, as well as being very talented teachers.
Can't wait for more content like more words, cases and tenses.
Nähdään pian. Paljon kiitoksia!