https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist

Extroverts, Introverts, and Language

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Being curiously unscientific here, but are you an extrovert or an introvert? What advantages do you think come from being an XXXXXvert learning a new language? What disadvantages?

I'm an ISFP (19% introverted, 10% observant, 30% feeling, 44% prospecting, 6% turbulent), so I am one of the more extroverted introverts. Being an introvert, I've found that I am generally able to apply myself to learning a language, without being distracted by other things going on in my life, but I also have the tendency to "buckle in", and I can take learning too seriously (so many rages at the computer when I fail a lesson again and again).

My introverted side keeps me grounded (and coming here every day to learn), while my extroverted side motivates me to learn said languages so I can engage with others.

If you have never tested yourself (or only know basic things), try this test.

EDIT: Thank you all for posting! It's been very interesting reading your thoughts (yes, I read every single one), and enlightening. So far, there seems to be many INxx users on here, but some fellow ISxx users (hi!), and extroverts (I hope your willingness to speak rubs off on me). :)

August 6, 2014

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https://www.duolingo.com/bookrabbit
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I always thought I was 'bad' at languages because my attempts at communicating in French which I spent years doing in school were abysmal failures and because it was my worst exam result. I recently realised that it is communicating that I am bad at, not languages. I am as introverted a person as you could find. (INTP) So why do I want to learn languages? Because I want to be able to read more books of course. And to gain perspective. Our language frames our thoughts and contains them. I want to escape the English box and explore other ways of seeing and understanding the world and my own mind. Being introverted (and Aspie) gives me the focus to concentrate on learning the languages. I am never happier than when learning.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl
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"So why do I want to learn languages? Because I want to be able to read more books of course. "

Of course! I had this conversation with someone just a couple of weeks ago. She wanted to read 'every book there is'. I told her that isn't enough for me, as she was just limiting herself to reading in English. I am now trying to read 'every book there is' in three languages. (Admittedly not all at a high level yet). :D

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/LupoMikti
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INTJ here. Hoping to be more INTP at somepoint. I once came across some curious definitions of extrovert and introvert that may be relevant.

Extroverts expend mental 'energy' at rest, and regain it socializing. If you feel stressed out being alone for a little bit, and feel super-invigorated after going out? You're probably an extrovert!

Introverts expend energy socializing, and regain it at rest. We love going out with friends too! But after we need some time to recharge our batteries. On the plus side, we don't get so antsy nearly so fast being by ourselves!

I can definitely empathize with being able to sit down and focus on doing nothing but learning a language. It applies to many other things as well, including doing research (which is still boring most of the time, but at least I can focus on getting it done when not procrastinating). However, being this introverted, I tend to bottle emotions in, including frustration with this site. Fortunately, I have my ways of expelling such negative energy, so I'm not liable to explode with all those bundled up emotions.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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Thanks for the additional descriptions. I love people, but after a couple of hours, I can feel myself being drained from their presence. ;)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/LupoMikti
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No problem!

Just as a bit of an extra piece of information, the linked test you gave said I was ISTJ (~48% introverted, 15% observing, 47% thinking, 14% judging, and 32% assertive), not INTJ, and I think it came down to a difference in the meaning of the S from what I understand.

I understood the S to mean "Sensing" and got a description of it from here. I also got detailed explanations of the sixteen types from here.

The test you gave seems to assert that the S stands for "Observing" which is very much different than "Sensing." Now I'm worried that something has changed in the Myers-Briggs classifications or that I had it wrong from the beginning. Do you, perhaps, have any information regarding this difference?

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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Maybe the wording has just changed. I took that test a few months ago, and I don't remember seeing "observing" anywhere. I wouldn't have any information on any changes, though.

August 6, 2014

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Thanks for replying so quickly. I figured as much, but it was a little shock to see it had changed from N to S when I was confident that I wasn't the "Sensing" type at all.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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No problem. I've been thinking that I was an extrovert for years, but after testing with this, I'm confident that I am just an extroverted introvert. :)

August 6, 2014

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This comment is quite old now, but I'd like to comment on it anyhow. ^_^ (Rhyme!)

The INTJ description given on that website matches me perfectly, yet when I take the test nowadays it always says that I'm an ISTJ — which truly doesn't match me very well. I'm not sure why the results always show that I'm an ISTJ when many things within that description don't match me at all. INTJ is much more accurate for me, but for some reason I don't get that result anymore...I want to boil it down to a change in personality that I've undergone, but the description for ISTJ glaringly contradicts with certain aspects of my personality, so I'm really not sure what it is.

Just wanted to leave this comment since it seems we might be experiencing something similar. ^_^

October 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/LupoMikti
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Wow, this comment is old. Just took that test again for fun, since I know I've changed A LOT in the past 2 years, and I got INFP-T (76% Introverted, 87% Intuitive, 57% Feeling, 64% Prospecting, 59% Turbulent).

I thought this may be a bit of a mistake at first, but then I saw the famous people that matched and got JRR Tolkien and William Shakespeare. In recent years I've become much more creative and have taken up conlanging. So this actually fits me pretty well.

Then I read the description of the Mediator and saw that it didn't just fit, it was pretty much how I'd describe myself. So yeah, things can change significantly, so you may not think you fit the S now, but who's to say you won't in the future? I certainly didn't think I'd ever end up with F in mine (I wanted to work toward P when I was INTJ, since it was more common with those who go into scientific research jobs, and I believe that change led to the change of my T to F).

Edit: My goal is still INTP, and to be honest, I think I've achieved it. I think my Thinking/Feeling trait just changes more often than other and today I'm more Feeling.

October 8, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/idshanks
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Doesn't anyone else here identify as an ambivert? O_o

The problem I have with MBTI tests is that my result completely changes from week to week! They're fun, though. :)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/ccf63
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I'm an INFP. (70% introverted). I'm proud to be among the ranks of Homer, William Shakespeare, J. R. R. Tolkien, and Björk. :P

I find it very hard to learn a language while being an introvert. I spent the Summer of 2013 in Germany, and I found it so stressful to talk to the natives there. What if I said something wrong or could not pronounce it right? Yes, I can sit down for hours alone and learn grammar and vocabulary and have a wonderful time, but I dare not speak any of it aloud when there are people around. I usually refuse to speak any Dutch around my Dutch friend unless "under the influence", because I'm afraid I'll get it wrong. I speak German out loud in class, but working with someone with whom I am not close, or who is better than me, can be very stressful. Luckily, I will be in a conversational German class in two weeks. Yes, I'm scared out of my wits.

I think I'd much rather be an extrovert learning a foreign language. In Germany, my extrovert friends, who were pretty bad at German actually, were not afraid to speak and got the information they needed.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/pont
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I'm an INFP. (70% introverted). I'm proud to be among the ranks of Homer, William Shakespeare, J. R. R. Tolkien, and Björk. :P

Considering that nobody's even sure whether Homer existed, I'm rather impressed that someone's managed to determine his Myers-Briggs personality type ;-).

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/ccf63
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Frodo Baggins is also on the list. He's real though, right? Right? :(

August 6, 2014

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Of course he is. I've known him for over 40 years and he came from just up the road.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl
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He so didn't come from just up the road. I know, I live less than two hours from Hobbiton, and I'm a long way from you. ;)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/bookrabbit
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Ah, but you are just near the film location, I am near the mill, where the real Frodo came from.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/bookrabbit
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I also know lots of other Hoppits

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl
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Ooh, you obviously know him better than I do. ;)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl
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Oh Pont, you do make me laugh. :)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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My fellow ISFP is Michael Jackson (yay!).

Those are exactly the thoughts that run through my mind. I know I'm being ridiculous, considering I don't view others differently when they speak incorrect English, but for some reason, I've set my bar so high that it's impossible for me to ever feel comfortable enough.

The best way for someone to get me to speak another language is to catch me off guard. I almost automatically respond when a family member says something in Spanish, or if I see it written somewhere.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Frosch0066
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Took the Myers Briggs test on paper some 15 years ago and it gave me INTP (though not scoring very highly on the introvert scale). This test seems more simplistic than the original one I took but I'm glad to find out I am still INTP. Not sure how this affects my language learning. So far reading and writing are no problem whatsoever. But when it comes to speaking I find by the time I have analysed a sentence in my head and applied the relevant grammar the moment has usually passed. In other words, I open my mouth and nothing comes out. But I'll get there eventually.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/BritBlue
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I am an INTP as well, seems like we are a rare type! I also had a low introvert score of 11% I am also a scientist which fits in with INTP type.

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Frosch0066
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And by the look of things, you are also a Welsh speaker. Which is even rarer! Were you brought up bilingual or did you learn it in school? I am asking because I have lived in two countries where a minority (official first) language exists beside a more dominant and widely spoken second language. Perhaps the underlying conditions cannot be compared in the two countries, but to me one of them seems more successful in keeping their language alive than the other. But I digress from the introvert-extrovert thread...

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/BritBlue
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I have a Welsh family but I am not fluent unfortunately as I grew up in England but I am learning! or trying to.... All Welsh children learn Welsh in school and some classes are taught through a Welsh medium. 20% of schools are taught solely in Welsh and Welsh is a dual language with English so many people are bilingual. I live in Ireland now but Irish doesn't seem to be as widely spoken as Welsh is in Wales. Where did you used to live?

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Frosch0066
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I used to live in Ireland, too. And as I remember for a lot of people Irish was one of the most unpopular subjects in school. I rarely heard the language spoken outside the Gealtacht areas and certain state-owned media. Here in Luxembourg, where I am now based, there is also a minority language (by absolute numbers of speakers possibly even rarer than Welsh). Yet, it seems omnipresent. For most luxembourgish nationals it is their mother tongue and in a country where nearly half of the population is made up of non-nationals, it is also a form of maintaining their identity. From a language aspect Luxembourg is a strange country. People who were born (or at least schooled) here speak a minimum of three languages (Luxembourgish, French and German). About 20% of the population are of Portuguese descent and would have a greater affinity towards the romance languages. Amongst the non-nationals English seems to be the lingua franca. So on a daily basis and with each encounter I have to negotiate which language to use. Whilst I don't speak Luxembourgish I can at least understand it. German is my native language and with French I just muddle through (hence my valiant efforts on Duolingo). For everything else there is English...

August 7, 2014

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I'm an INFP, and I'm definitely pretty introverted about my language learning, since my main motivation usually is that I want to read books. I have quite a hard time finding anyone to practise speaking with, since I really dislike talking over Skype, and it takes a long time for me to make a new friend. When I do try and speak to someone, I am way too perfectionistic. This even happens with English: everytime I speak to my friend from Canada, I subconsciously try to speak English as "impressively" as I can, and then I stumble. Funnily enough, I have a much easier time speaking English to other non-native speakers.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN
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I tried it and it said INFP but the numbers were not so very high and I leaned slightly towards Assertive. I found it fascinating. I tried to figure out what some of my family members might be.

I love learning languages, just to learn them. I was quite a bookworm as a child, but I grew up in a large family in which no one could be a loner and I had to learn to survive in group settings, Yet, I would wake up really early and water the plants outside and swim before anyone else came out, Play music and dream. Definitely intuitive, but also fascinated by so much information, I never have more fun than learning. I, however, have many distractions that pull me away from the computer for I am always there for those who need me. I am never angry at the computer for which I long when I am stuck doing all those daily things that must be done. I would rather lose a heart, than not have any to lose.

Not many extroverts took this test. I feel that more extroverts are out there learning among people rather than on a computer. They are more likely to travel and immerse themselves in a foreign culture. I am not as much of an introvert as some, for I love to talk to people and get to know them, but when everyone is asleep and the house is quiet, I have so much more energy and am ready to learn anything. Nowadays, even extroverts spend time on their cellphones and can learn on duolingo, but they might do less at a time and still can come back often. This program has the advantage of having a really great user community to learn with. Thank you for the website. It was fun, but I think only 16 personality types might be a little simplistic. I hope people don't get too caught up in their typecast. There are billions of people out there and the thing I love is that there really aren't any two that are completely alike. The variations within variations of each person is what makes each of us so special and so much fun to get to know. Well, I am off to learn new words!

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/bibliobibulous

I am, officially, an INFP! (Yay, Anne of Green Gables! xD) So, I do a relatively steady amount of Duolingo work, often getting into a kind of beat-the-leaderboard rush. When I find myself doing this, I promise to myself I can only do lessons or strengthenings halfway down the tree; otherwise my feeling and turbulent side will maniacally take over and "strengthen" the first- and early second- checkpoint lessons, not thinking about what's probably fair!

Writing is fun, because I write poetry and stuff in English, and German is so far just a MUCH more challenging extension of this. Speaking is most troublesome for me, by far. Skype intimidates me. A lot. (So far, everything has been cozily anonymous, faceless, retractable. The most I've been able to bring myself to do is speak German among my family and friends; it annoys them, but at least I can, uncomfortably, chalk it up to "speaking practice."

I really do need to get ON it, don't I. (huff) So, yes! Thanks for bringing our attention to this! That's interesting to think about, in terms of language learning. :)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/makiminami
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I also love the Anne of Green Gables series! Can't there not be a world without italics? Glad to see another "kindred spirit" on Duolingo (thought I was the only one here!)

I'm also quite a competitive person (for example, always checking the leaderboard to see how high I am, typing as fast as possible to win a duel [a feature once in the iOS app where you could play against someone]) so I take gaming very seriously.

I'm also very shy when I try to talk to someone online (especially Skype, I don't like people seeing my face) even under anonymity.

I'm very creative in writing (writing poetry in English, sometimes French) and in art (drawing Duo and his [fictional] girlfriend and their [fictional] romance). And I like to imagine, though not as much as ambitious Anne. Imagination is like another world or portal!

P.S. Have you read all of the books? I've only finished Anne of Avonlea, haha (better start reading Anne of the Island soon). And do read the Emily of New Moon trilogy, Emily also uses a lot of italics.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/bibliobibulous

Yeah, Anne is awesome! (You'll love Anne of the Island!) I've read up to about Rainbow Valley. If I know what's good for me, I should read the one about Rilla, her daughter -- yet I can't imagine Anne not being the main character!! :'D Have you read I Capture the Castle? It's a lot like Green Gables: amazing characters, great writing style.

And I definitely know what you mean about competition. When I get into that "mode" I'll step back and remind myself: the goal is to learn a language. But the leaderboard, and everything that comes with it, is so quantifiable and solid. Sometimes I have to rely on that certainty of data to keep me, well, motivated. :1 Duolingo knows what it's doing.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/makiminami
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I read a little bit of it (maybe up to the part where Gilbert proposes to Anne for the first time) but I should start re-reading it sometime soon. And yes, I plan to read more of the series (I know Anne got married and had children [poor Joyce!], I just want to see the story page by page). And I haven't heard of I Capture the Castle, I'll consider reading it, though. (Hey, let's discuss this on the stream, this is language learning here! :))

And looking at my place on the weekly, monthly, and all-time helps to give me a sense of where I am and how well I know my languages. Not only that, I like looking at badges (especially knowing where others are in their languages and what they are studying) and it's interesting to know how much Spanish they know, and that they're starting French, etc.

August 6, 2014

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Go ahead and read Rilla. :-) I know exactly what you mean about Anne not being the main character, but as I recall, Rainbow Valley focused more on the kids - it sort of gradually draws you away from Anne so by the time you get to the last book, it isn't such a shock to have a new main character. It is quite different from the others, though.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/makiminami
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Wow! So many kindred spirits already! Didn't know you loved Anne too! :D

And of course, there can't be a world without Octobers.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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Now you all make me want to read past the first book (I read the first one, can't remember if I finished it), and watched both movies, LOL. ;)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/makiminami
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@Alexis: You must, as well as Emily. She's different from Anne, but she is also orphaned under a strict setting (in this case, Aunt Elizabeth, who's basically the boss of the house).

August 6, 2014

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I'll definitely check Emily out, sounds interesting!

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/bibliobibulous

To know Anne is to love Anne...

August 6, 2014

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True! Even though Anne is only a fictional character, I feel I know her just like a real friend... :)

August 6, 2014

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damn...two years and I'm a strong INFP now how wild...

September 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/BritBlue
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I'm not really sure what I am, I am not a loud person and probably quite quiet but I don't mind making a fool of myself! I much prefer to listen in on people rather than talk about myself and am quite happy just being by myself so I'm probably more of an introvert. Having to give presentations in front of people and and talking to strangers all the time though helps to overcome any anxieties but generally I don't get stressed out by it too much, if I look stupid, I look stupid, who cares! :D

I'm an odd mix of boarding school brat/university hall living and an only child so I can be both fine by myself and with other people right on top of me.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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Take the test....take the test: http://www.16personalities.com. ;)

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/BritBlue
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INTP :D

August 7, 2014

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Being introvert doesn't surely mean being silent all the time :)

Even though I am in many ways the epitome of introversion, I am quite fine doing e.g. presentations and speeches, while some extroverts I know hate doing those...

Maybe it's an INTP thing, the descriptions mention that we are not too concerned about how we look like to others and are quite ready to use others as sounding boards for our half-formed ideas, so that would help skipping some typical social anxieties...

August 8, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/hdcanis
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INTP here, and like other introverts, I can put the effort on learning the languages on places like this but finding it a bit hard to speak it (or find the people with who to speak).

INTP is defined as "analyst" and that does influence langauge learning...I have noted in myself a fascination for grammar, picking it apart and figuring out how the syntax works, how the expressions are literally formed.

Take a lesson like Idioms here, I have little interest to learn that this idiom simply means the same as that idiom in another language. I want to know the literal meaning of the idiom but probably accept even more outlandish concepts (so I don't get stuck on ideas like how tables can be feminine).

But I guess I can get a bit lackadaisical about getting all the details right...I guess there were some accents here somewhere, let's put one there and another there, and was table feminine or masculine, nevermind, it's the big picture that matters...

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/BritBlue
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Another INTP (11% intovert) here - we are supposed to be rare but maybe Duo attracts our type?

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/hdcanis
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Hah, I was something like 70% introvert (with P/J being closest call).

I suspect introverts in general are overrepresented in Internet forums because this is better form of socializing than, you know, hanging around with lots of people, and it is definitely likely that INTP Duo users are much more than that 3%...

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/BritBlue
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I think I could have so easily tipped into the extrovert! haha, yes its a little less draining than, you know, actually talking to people ;P

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SorrisoMW
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INTP here, too. :-)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Sen756
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I'm also an INTP! Though my view/perspective (I don't know what word to use to describe it) is quite different from yours.

Being an introvert I do find it quite troublesome having to speak in another language. Even today I try to avoid speaking English, as when I speak I often talk too much. The words hurry out of my mouth in a jumble making grammar rules cringe at the way I express myself.

About being "analytic" I think that's not really a part of my personality, sure I can analyse grammar and vocabulary making it easier to learn, however most often than not I find it quite boring to analyse patterns in the languages. I find it more satisfying to study the history behind a language and see what paths it took to make it like it is. Not helpful with learning the actual language but still, it's interesting.

Finally, sometimes I find it quite difficult to concentrate on a specific language as I want to move onto another one as I like the accent, or the tone of the language or something else about it.

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/hdcanis
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Well, not necessarily so different...in all honesty I am most interested in linguistics in general and how those apply to different languages and the overall concept of "language", so the history of languages play a role in those too...

And I have taken a look at the basics of a number of languages to get a quick idea how they function overall but not really enough to have them in any functional level...but while linguistics are studied for fun, I study specific languages for their utilitarian value. But when I do that, linguistics help on understanding grammar and syntax and on the other hand specific examples flesh out linguistics...

But I don't see myself pursuing to complete e.g. Portuguese or Dutch trees any time soon (unless I suddenly find myself living in Brazil or something), studying those for their own sake is not that interesting.

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/DuoSurvivalGames

I have INTJ.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/TaurielArcher

I'm an ISTJ. I tend to be pretty quiet and introverted until you get to know me. I could be alone all day and be fine except for my imagination which can play tricks on me. :) I really enjoy learning anything, and I would study language all day if I had the time. I really want to learn Irish. Can't Wait!!!

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/GeniusJack
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I'm an ENFP. 73% Extraverted :D It says ENFPs can be excellent diplomats, perfect for a want-to-be linguist. Here's the link to my assessment: http://www.16personalities.com/enfp-personality. This sounds like it might be very helpful for the career I want to pursue. Thanks for posting!

August 6, 2014

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You're welcome, Jack!

August 7, 2014

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I'm a very strong INTJ. Just to make that even more 'fun' I have Aspergers. :D This means that my focus while I am interested in something is great, and I can put in lots of study. At the moment between Duolingo, Memrise, and other resources, I am probably studying at least five hours per day. This means I can make huge leaps forward in my understanding.

I saw a study somewhere (sorry I can't remember where, so I can't link to it) that said 'J' personalities sometimes struggle with ambiguities in language learning. This is true. I feel like I have to understand every single word. Getting 'the gist' of something is anathema to me. I want to know everything that is being said, and the exact nuances of it. This has always been the reason I've given up (or at least temporarily dropped) language study in the past, out of sheer frustration at not being fluent.

Of course, being a massive introvert (don't let the fact I am friendly in writing fool you, people are really tough for me in the real world), conversation is much harder. I have had Skype conversations with a couple of my language exchange friends, but it nearly kills me. The best thing I have found to counteract that (apart from habitualisation) is to formalise the conversations by having 'set topics'.

Lots of people ask why I want to learn languages, which is mostly about interaction, when I am such an introvert, but I love foreign cultures, and I also find that my Aspergers is much less noticable to foreigners - maybe because they put any awkwardness down to language difficulties. ;)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/makiminami
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I'm also what you are. I tend to get annoyed by little problems and make them real big (like edit my posts multiple times making sure I explain everything and everything is PERFECT, or spend a whole lot of my time unnecessarily editing and writing a huge long post, posting long after [it seems] the discussion was originally posted, and I don't embarrass myself by saying something in a weird way), but I'm also a huge introvert, meaning it takes a lot of courage for me to talk to an acquaintance about something I like (though, online, it seems much easier talking to friends here).

Though, only now I've started to get over my shyness and become a friendly person inside, though I still feel a little awkward talking or interacting with a stranger in a public place.

Yes, and while I seem friendly and extroverted in my posts online, I am really much shyer than you think, just like you are (but I don't like my face being seen or recorded with a camera, unless it's close family I'm talking to from someplace else on a computer).

And it seems the "focus-while-I-am-interested-thing" applies to me, too.

No one (yet) has asked me why I'm so interested in learning a language when it's a way of communicating, but I do it just to be able to understand foreign versions of my favorite songs.

EDIT (#Some Huge Number of Edits Made by Editing my Posts): See, it's late in my time zone just staying up editing and editing...

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/anthgrl
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I’m INFJ, but I think I’m a lot like both of you. Big ol’ introvert, I can easily go a full day without ever seeing another human being or speaking a word out loud, that doesn’t bother me in the least. I also have good focus, but I’m a procrastinator and I only focus on the things that interest me. All of this might help with learning the language, but I’m also shy, so the last thing I want to do is actually try to speak it out loud with someone.

I also take forever to write anything, and edit my posts over and over again to get them right (it’s worse on Facebook where I have my real name and photo so people know it’s me – the anonymity here is easier). I’m a perfectionist with OCD and an English degree, so whenever I see someone in the sentence discussions using ‘your’ when they want to say ‘you’re’, it makes me twitch. But my focus on English grammar I think makes it harder for me to translate into other languages; I’m afraid I’ll make the same kinds of mistakes in French that bug me in English, just because I don’t know any better yet. I’m fine with making mistakes and losing hearts in lessons, but I seem to be convinced the world will end if I make a mistake in French while talking to a native speaker. I’m getting better at talking to random strangers in English, so I’m hoping I can learn to do the same in French. Being a shy introvert who doesn’t like talking to people is not exactly the best trait in a future anthropologist.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl
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I am really bad for 'twitching' at the misuse of their/they're/there, etc. too. Interestingly, the more I study languages, the more I have to pause and think before I type. Somehow my thinking and typing has become more phonetic, and what used to come automatically now makes me pause for a moment. :)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/anthgrl
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Yes, those too, and 'should of' instead of 'should have', or 'they'll' when someone means 'there will', and of course it's/its.

Actually, I have to stop and think a lot more ever since I moved to the UK - I can never remember now if it's 'favor' or 'favour', 'organize' or 'organise'. My spelling and punctuation have gotten really inconsistent as I alternate between the two. I imagine that will only get worse as my French improves, and I start randomly putting spaces before question marks when I'm writing in English. :-)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl
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If in doubt in the UK, add in the extra 'u' in flavour, colour, etc. Without the 'u' looks very American to us. ;)

Many English people will not spot the difference between organise / organize, practice / practise and similar, I guess because we get so used to reading American books / web pages. :)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl
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Of course you are staying up editing. It's got to be right. ;)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/lydiadaisy_x

I completely understand what you mean. When I am focused on something, I will keep going until I get there and, like you, I also have to completely understand the phrase to move on. I can't just get the general idea of a phrase and move on, I need to fully understand and fully take as much as I can from that phrase. Equally, I am an introvert and I suffer from social awkwardness, both in my first language and my second ones!! I am also a perfectionist and if the the tiniest thing is even slightly wrong, I can't focus until it is sorted. This might seem like an odd question, but does anyone else have the tidy environment, tidy mind thing (it's where I can only focus on doing something if the environment around me is tidy as well.) Like I can't work at my desk if it's a mess, for instance.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/makiminami
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I'm an ISFP, but I tend to think of myself as one of the "shyer" ones. I, too, am very serious about language learning, and I have rages when I repeatedly and repeatedly fail a certain lesson (I want to be able to understand it as much as I can, I'm a perfectionist). The good thing is, my introverted-ness keeps me more focused on my lessons, and not on the discussion forums happily chatting about Duolingo and how far we got in our trees :) But let's get back to the point. My much weaker extroverted side, on the other hand, wants to help, translate, and/or befriend a user, so you can see me active in the discussions (in my earlier Duolingo days on my other accounts, I was hardly ever as active on the discussions, only coming to read them, being so shy at the time [and if you ever got the chance to meet me you'd be really surprised how shy I am]; nowadays I'm not as shy, but there are moments when I want to post on one of my friends' streams and tell them about something I love that they made, a certain post, or something I thought about them before). But an advantage is that other users can correct my language mistakes (if I make one), making sure that next time, I don't do it again.

And if you were going to simply label me "introvert" or "extrovert", I'm most definitely an introvert. I'm more careful about what I share, what I say around non-family members or close friends, and slightly watchful of myself, hoping I don't be embarrassed.

Short answer: I'm an introvert 100%.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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I love seeing the differences within my own "type". I wasn't ever "shy", just quiet, and observing. Even now, when I lurk on the forums, I'm always analyzing people's responses, the tones, and things of that nature.

We definitely share the same tendencies to not be as open as we would be with strangers or acquaintances. I think it's a matter of "I'm going to have to spend sometime studying you before I share my life story." ;)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/JaneEmily

I think I'm the only ISFJ here at the moment. I got 96% introverted, so most of the time I am locked up inside my mind.

I'm also always looking to constantly improve who I am. I get easily anxious and frustrated when I feel like I'm not doing well with things. I also tend to get anxious when I'm learning a new word then it suddenly jumps at me, and if I don't know it straight away I tend to get quite angry at myself. I'm always wondering why aren't I at a much more advanced level in Dutch already, I'm too shy and embarrassed to start a conversation in fear of getting one word wrong. I'm very much a perfectionist. I get told it's okay to make mistakes because that's the beauty of language learning, but then I still get cold feet when trying to say something for the first time - I'm very hesitant in that regards. I do try my hardest at things though, and even if I'm having a really off day I make sure I do at least a little bit of language learning.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Mitchell_MT
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I also got ISFJ

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/djr8369

How come so many of you have your personality types tested? I've done some free tests online out of inquisitiveness but it sounds like you've all had it done properly?

David

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN
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Out of curiosity, why didn't you try the free test at the top of the page? That is all most of us did. There is a lot of information at that website explaining everything. It was fun, why not?

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/JaneEmily

I only used the one that AlexisLinguist posted in her original post. I read through the overview afterwards to get a proper understanding of my own personality. I also know myself pretty well as I've struggled with anxiety and being how I am since I was a young child.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/djr8369

Ah I never noticed the test it was interesting though, INTP.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jolynnedougherty
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Thanks for asking the above question. I totally missed the link, too, until I saw your question. Have a Lingot.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SusanG22

JaneEmily - You are not the only one. I don't know my percentage, but my "I" was pegged so far to the left that the woman interpreting my results was shocked. I like my introversion, regardless of what others think of it. : )

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/JaneEmily

I agree. I prefer being introverted, there's nothing better than knowing I can trust myself and myself only. If I start allowing more people in, I fear that they'll just abuse my trust as they have done in the past.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Equality7-2521
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I'm a strong extrovert. I guess that explains why I want to speak the language more than just typing it and doing it online. I keep trying to get colleagues who speak Spanish to speak it to me more often so I can practice.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl
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You're the first extrovert to post. ;)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Equality7-2521
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I've noticed that.

I've always looked at myself in a unique way as an extrovert. I don't go looking for social situations, I enjoy being alone when I can. However, when I am in groups, I like to engage others. I'm also not a quiet person at all nor am I shy.

If it is a choice between a party or a movie at home with the family, I'd stay home, but If I go to a party, I make the most of it.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jolynnedougherty
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It says I am an ESFP. I have always figured I was an extrovert. I am a bit wary of speaking French to people, because I have struggled with it for so long, but am very excited to find someone who speaks Dutch. I feel a little braver there. More willing to take a chance.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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My mirror extrovert. :) I have the same feelings like you, but I'm a lot more wary, and less excited to find someone who speaks a language that I am learning. A relative of mine speaks Portuguese, and when she asked me a question, my entire mind shut down, and the only phrase I could get out was "Sim, um poco." I need my extroverted side for these types of things, but it always seems to disappear.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/KansasBurri

ISTJ. I normally don't ask for help or comment that much on the forums and I always have to strengthen skills first before I move on to another lesson.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/LeIouch

ISTP (17% Introverted) - Tom Cruise haha

Thanks for posting this test Alexis, the generated personality description sounds frighteningly similar to how I would judge my own character.

I'm introverted enough to be able to study by myself for hours but extroverted enough to seek out people to use my target language with. Best of both worlds I suppose?

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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You're welcome. I love being creeped out by myself. ;)

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SophiaGucciardi

My cousin had me take the same test last week on vacation. I'm an INTP. I guess it shows because I'm always wanting to learn more. Like piano, German, Dutch, I'd like to learn Italian, Russian, Norwegian, French, Spanish, Swedish, and loads of other stuff.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/digitalpointer
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I'm an INTJ. I'm definitely inclined to study happily for hours on end, but am less inclined to talk with others. This is partly because I'm overly afraid of making mistakes, so I have to remind myself that that's just part of the learning process. I'm fortunate to work with native speakers of a variety of languages who are willing to practice with me for fun, so I'm trying to develop a thicker skin and not worry so much.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/suesieb
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I'm a strong INTJ. Some of the things listed in the profile fit me totally, i.e. the ability to focus on a task, the need to recharge my battery after social events. I don't see myself as particularly judgemental. I think I'll take the test again in a few weeks to see if there is a change. How INTJ is that?

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Hdn2000
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I'm an ISTJ (Introvert, Sentinel, Turbulent, Judging) for sure. I can definitely see this impacting my language studies, since I am a learner that focuses very heavily on grammar explanations and solid rules in language; I'm not very fond of spontaneity or irregularity. I break apart every piece of every phrase in a language to examine all the parts and construct my own thoughts based on those "templates", rather than follow by ear and go forward with a merely conversational basis. I found the test really helpful in determining who I really am!

Happy language learning,

~Hdn

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/nikertnemw

I got 44% extroverted. I was overall a diplomat.

Another great post, keep it up. You deserve a lingot for honestly being one of the best users on Duolingo.

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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Muchas gracias, kingofquave. :)

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SarahElizM

I'm a marketing major....probably says it all! :) Haha. All I do is talk all day...sometimes I'll tell my boss something and he'll say, I already knew that. I'll say, How? He says, Oh, I heard you talking to yourself a while back. Oops.

I don't really have an introverted side....guess that's why my streak is at only about 5 on the best of days! Haha. I'd much rather be talking to someone than sitting on my laptop. BUT, that being said, I am (obviously) an auditory learner. I'm a strings musician, and I have had to develop an sensitive ear, especially for the violin. If I hear it, I learn it. If I read it....well, maybe not. If I sing it, it'll be stuck in my head for sure! I've gone away from performances and my bro's like, I can tell what you sang today! Oh well. So anyway, I learn faster in the war zone as they say...you know, actually speaking.

I started speaking Spanish as often as I could as soon as I could. I was pretty fluent back in my younger days....oh, well, I guess I had better be careful calling myself old.....I'm only 20, you see! I spoke a lot with customers (at the time I worked retail) and advanced a lot in pronunciation that way. Nothing better than actually speaking to learn a ton!

I've rambled on too long. Adios!

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SarahElizM

Ok, just took the test. Haha, I am 100% Extrovert. Here's what it says:

"You are one of the Explorers - a bold and freedom-loving individual who enjoys pushing the limits and exploring the unknown. You are known for your enthusiasm, social skills and ability to cheer up those around you. Above you will find a brief overview of your personality traits - proceed to the type overview to learn much more about your personality type. Prepare to be impressed."

"PERSONALITY: ESFP VARIANT: ASSERTIVE ROLE: EXPLORER"

Funny, that is exactly how my closest friends describe me! :) Pretty good test. Except it says my personality type has trouble in school....never had that. Always was pretty much a straight A student. Plus I don't jump from one thing to another like it says, especially in relationships....I love staying with the same group of friends for years. But I definitely am an optimist...never did see the sense in being a pessimist. :)

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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My mirror personality. :) I'm essentially the same as you, except I don't act that way with everyone, only with people I enjoy being around/talking to/etc. I also agree with your school analysis, I never had problems with school, just with the system. ;) I also keep friends for a long time. I can't recall ending a friendship, now that I think of it.

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SarahElizM

Haha, just with the system....love it. I also have lots of issues with the system :)

Prolly the only difference between you and I is that I talk to everyone I come into contact with. When I went to jury duty, I was the only one that was shooting the breeze with the bailiff :) Haha. Talking to lots of people gives you a really well-rounded personality I think.

Funniest thing is that I was desperately shy as a kid. I mean really, really bad. I could never sing onstage as a twelve year old like I do today. When I turned about 16, that was all over. I know tons of people all over town as a result. I live in a medium-sized Texas town, and I can't walk through Walmart without someone calling out my name :) Lol

August 7, 2014

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:) You accurately describe a close relative of mine. I once came out a store to find him in a conversation, and he seemed to be friends with the man, but as we walked off, I'd learned they had never met. :P I talk to people, but moreso once I have had a chance to gauge their personality.

Sounds like me! I remember, as a young child, being afraid to be the flower girl at the wedding of very close friends'. Looking back on that now, I must have been shy.

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/stwel
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I think I'm an ISTJ. Being introverted probably makes it easier to commit to the learning part. It never feels like much of an effort for me, instead I always find it a fun way to pass the time :-). On the other hand being introverted is more difficult to actually go out and use the language, which explains why I'm often very good at passive understanding (reading, listening) and writing, but not as fluent as I'd like to be when it comes to speaking.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/lydiadaisy_x

I am rather introverted, according to that test, but it also highlights that, although I dislike a lot of social events, once I get to know someone, I relax a little more. I am about the same as you. I am a perfectionist, and am not afraid to start something again if I think I can do it better but I generally am able to apply myself to learning a language. Equally, I take learning very seriously (too seriously sometimes!) and always strive to find new information and become a better learner. I think, in many ways, DuoLingo has given me that because it has enabled me to work at my own pace, restart if things go wrong and keep going. Also, I think learning a language helps me socially because I have a reason to talk to others and I have a new opportunity to talk to other people, instead of shutting myself out of social situations, whether that may be because I don't speak the language or I don't particularly feel confident enough to talk to others. Language learning has definitely boosted my confidence and I am a lot happier in social environments now. :)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/maggiesoup

I am an introvert (ISTJ) which made it difficult to get over the initial fear of speaking languages. I think about what I say before I say it in English, which makes it even slower in Finnish. It is also sort of a blessing and a curse in Finland. I feel like I fit in more easily, however it means that there is even less of a chance that people will talk to me and help me practice my language.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/fuzzybooks

ISFP here apparently. 88% Introverted.. Really, my current motivation for learning French is so that I can watch La Belle et La Bête(2014) and understand most of it, I'm not really as fussed about whether I'll be able to speak it properly. And speaking is hard, spoke to one of my German friends on skype, and I was just, so worried about saying the wrong thing, remembering how mocking my French teacher was, but after a little while we both relaxed, her spoken English wasn't all that great, and my German obviously wasn't either, so it was all cool. I think my introvertedness, coupled with social anxieties, really isn't super for my language learning, sometimes having a really hard time repeating out loud, even when I'm alone in the room and no one else will hear me. But there's also this whoosh of pride/happiness when I actually do, and more so if it sounds somewhat near what it should sound like, so I don't know. It's a bump to climb over, but I'm hoping it'll become a bit easier.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/OnesimusUnbound

Maybe you're more extroverted online (DuoLingo?) and introverted on the real world. What do you think?

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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Nope. :) The way I act with people that I know on here is the same way that I act with people I know in "the real world". Being an introvert, I may be slow to warm up, but not if I've been observing you. ;)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl
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You've been watching us?? :P

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/makiminami
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Yes, and I quote directly from Alexis,

If I'm not posting, I'm lurking.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl
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Lol.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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'Tis true.

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/bszalay26
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Thanks for the link to test, it was interesting. I seem to be an INTJ (73% introvert). I like to discover the patterns in everything, in languages as well, which makes it easy for me to learn grammar, which is the part I like most in any language. Like other introverts I have difficulties with spoken language, I cannot really start talking until I get to a higher level. My greatest difficulty in learning a language is learning to understand spoken language, probably because this is the part you cannot learn from books. I am a perfectionist and this has made my life very difficult, so I started to learn to accept, that perfection usually cannot be achieved. Now I am more relaxed than before, it is easier for me to speak in front of others (although my face still turns as red as the lingots when I do that). I've learned that it is easier for me to learn a language if I can "let go" and do NOT try to understand EVERYTHING. It will become better with time and practice anyway. So I started reading books and watching television series without looking up all the words in a dictionary. It is a little frustrating in the beginning, when I hardly understand a word, but it is a great feeling when I suddenly realize that I can actually understand almost anything I read or hear!

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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You're welcome. :)

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Ben_Passmore

I reckon it's better to be an extrovert - gives you more confidence in speaking to a foreign person in that language, which I think is the best way to learn a language. Duolingo is good to get the vocabulary needed for a conversation but you won't learn a language properly without someone fluent in it!

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Reese_Ranx

Looks like I'm an INFP. Thanks for making such a fun and interesting quiz, really appreciate it!! :)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/OnesimusUnbound

INFP here :-)

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Mitchell_MT
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I am an ISFJ. I think it's better for me to be introverted because I can focus on more of the grammar details, and create imaginary conversations in my head.

August 6, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/kingthatcher
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Introvert. I can go on with something for hours or months or even years without ever getting bored. Even if course material is dry.

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Erven.R
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Took the test months ago, took it again, still an ENTP.

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/tonywangtj
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Simply put, soy un ambivert.

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/blizzard-spider
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I am an INFJ- I was really in the middle for all the characteristics. Huh, well let's just call it jack of all trades then eh?

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AnettAlukka

Am I the only ESTP here....???

Well,I am more of an "explorer", so says the test.But I am not a person interested in Sports and I seriously don't have any trouble at school. I am neither disturbed by rules,nor am I carefree person.

August 7, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Purple_Biscuit

I am ESTP too... I do not find trouble in school and do not quite relate to a number of other listed characteristics...

August 8, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Purple_Biscuit

*I do not find troubles in school either.

August 8, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SarahElizM

I'm an ESFP I think....I think that's what it says anyway. Yeah it told me I was prone to have trouble in school, but I never really did. I was always pretty much a straight A student all the way through high school and now halfway into college. Granted, my degree is in marketing!

August 8, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Purple_Biscuit

Me too! Always a straight A student!

August 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/pixelstars

I consistently test as an ENFP, and I'd say that being extroverted means I'm quite motivated as I enjoy communicating with people and so of course the thought of being able to apply the skills I've picked up is very appealing. I also read somewhere, though I'm not sure why it's this way, that NF types tend to have an aptitude for foreign languages?

August 8, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/DieDeutscheKatze

I'm an INTJ.

August 8, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/azureskye
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I am an INTJ. I am 78% introverted, 16% inuitive, 8% thinking, 16% judging and 14% assertive. That is a lot of introverted....

August 14, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SilasGTBronte
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Hello! I am an INTx, though not that even sure on the "I" part. I am normally rather quiet and some people see me as shy, but I actually do enjoy some interaction with other people. My problem is that I cannot find that many people who interest me. In fact most small talk (and most people for that matter) REALLY bores me.

I think the way my introversion helps me in learning foreign languages is that being an introvert I tend to listen more than talking, except when I want to practice my language skills. By listening more I focus more on paying attention on proper pronunciation and grammar. Luckily, I live in a large diverse city where many foreign languages are spoken.

It may seem a little ironic that I want to learn many other languages (although not at the same time), but do not talk that much.

February 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/chloglo

I'm an INFP and languages come very naturally to me.

September 21, 2016
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