https://www.duolingo.com/profile/thegaystripes

Gender Neutral French Pronouns (for Nonbinary Folks!)

From http://ciswashed.tumblr.com/post/83077815279/industrialprince-since-there-is-talk-of-french

os (as in elle n’est pas comfortable dans le siege = os n’est pas comfortable dans le siege) lo (elle est la plus gentil = os est lo plus gentil) sol (je lui a demandé = je sol a demandé) se and leur stays the same cel/cels (qui porte jaune? celle, avec la radio. = qui porte jaune? cel avec la radio) end things with “il” (elle est courageuse = os est courageuil)

August 19, 2014

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Grapes2005

if you ever encounter someone who wants to use pronouns that you may not have heard of ( english or french ), the nicest thing to do is accept their choice

March 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xeno78

These sound so un-Frenchy haha. But thanks. Btw are these just suggestions or are they actually used by French speakers?

August 19, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cassolotl

I don't know, but I'm keeping an eye on this survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdF40ghv7u1Q0jQPm8eb1D-m6jtV_va9R_IZ2OTZ8VWQje8XA/viewform I'm curious to see the results.

Edit: These results from the 2016 survey suggest iel is the most popular, but the sample size was much smaller than the Nonbinary Stats equivalent annual survey thing: http://ekladata.com/juNUFUeNhqGAL-2iAzUChRp0N4U/Le-langage-dans-la-communaute-non-binaire-Unique-en-son-genre-2017.pdf

September 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/StNaive

I like them, but I'm curious as to what native French speakers think of these. It looks like this person made them up all by themselves, so I question how far they'd get you in conversation. They've got the right idea though!

August 19, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fluffybookfae

This is really useful! Thanks!

August 19, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Homura-chan

wow I'm glad to see some gender neutral pronouns in the french language. I'm still looking for some english ones but hey french ones are just as good

August 20, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/thegaystripes

Gender neutral english pronouns would be They/Them/Their/Themself

August 25, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daisey080

There has been an annual nonbinary survey since 2015 ( http://nonbinarystats.tumblr.com/results ), which the most recent survey listed they/them, xe/xem, zie/hir, e/em, it/its, fae/faer, and co/cos as the most popular gender-neutral pronouns (each with over 1% of survey responses indicating preference).

April 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/momomob

other than they/them sort of stuff there's also xe (which is used a lot) and some others i don't remember but they are used!

June 17, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Grapes2005

i dont have specific examples but if you look them up then lots of pronouns will show up

March 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/catherinebowden

thank you :) but i hope no one looks at me strangely if i use these haha

April 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasleenBra

is "on" not ok for a gender neutral pronoun?

June 21, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheRealFlenuan

You're right that it's gender-neutral; however, it doesn't work the same way. The word "on" in French is purposefully ambiguous and is not used for referring to specific people, just like you can't say "one" in English to refer to a specific person.

June 29, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheRealFlenuan

What about "eil"? That sounds much more natural in French speech than "os".

June 29, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MetroWestJP

Isn't "os" French for "bone"?

May 7, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheRealFlenuan

Yes, but it doesn't sound right as a pronoun, I mean.

May 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheRealFlenuan

Also, since posting this I've learned that some people go by iel

May 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheRealFlenuan

What—why would you change "lui" when it's already gender-neutral?! That makes absolutely no sense.

June 29, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FitzgeraldStark

It's easier to say than mx. or mxs. I don't even know how to pronounce those. Though I am cis...

March 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daisey080

Mx. is an honorific, not a pronoun. It is often pronounced "mix" or "mux"

May 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Grapes2005

also, mxter pronounced mixter or muxter

March 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/magicalboyy

I also read that elli and yel are used as gender-neutral pronouns! Can't remember where for the life of me though.

May 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/snowystriders

It says that on Wikipedia and a couple other places I used to fact check. I think 'yels' is for gender neutral groups as well (like ils or elles)? Idk I would look into using those.

July 14, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/littleredgall

oh good I was curious and know I know

August 3, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Grapes2005

thanks that helped me!

February 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Setsuko670458

simply put,french version of super mario party has the answer.

February 26, 2019
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