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Hello! I'm a native speaker so I can enlighten you on this one. In Portugal "tu" is used in an informal way (as "tu" in French) while "você" would be used in a somewhat more formal situation - somewhere between "tu" and "vous" in French.
In Brazil you use "você" in all informal situations, "tu" is very rarely used, only in some areas of the country.
This was all explained in the 'Tu-Você' skill, the 9th one way way back near the beginning of this course. Here is an excerpt from the Tips:
" Você versus Tu Tu and você both mean you (singular). Você is the prevailing pronoun in Brazil, but tu is frequent in many regions. Você requires the 3rd-person verb form whereas tu requires the 2nd-person. Você é uma menina and Tu és uma menina. "
actually tu is used in a great part of the country
but in both cases the conjugations always agree with the third form (he - ele)
No, tu is 2nd person and você is 3rd person. This was all explained in the Tu-Você skill.
'Tu - you' is the familiar, or friendly, form of 'você - you' and is very frequently used in Continental Portuguese between family, friends and people of a similar age.
Você fala - you speak - you are speaking - you do speak.
Tu falas - you speak - you are speaking - you do speak.
And is that considered grammatically correct? To use "tu" with the third form? Is it taught that way?
Its completly wrong, u only can say that way, in informal chats, never writting
technically it's incorrect, but we still say it anyway. it's pretty much right and nobody will care should you say it. tu is used over você in rio de janeiro and rio grande do sul, você is used over tu in são paulo. most places use them interchangeably with no difference. the only real formals are "o senhor" and "a senhora"
Did u never go to the north part of brazil to say that, did u? We have a huge country bro
But, i can say that u can replace "tu" for "você" as u want 'cause it doesnt make any diference
I live in Piauí state (Located in Brazil's northeast region) and here people usually use "tu" while talking to relatives and friends (it doesn't matter if most of us use the third conjugation or not. I use "the correct" (grammatically speaking) conjugation. Whatever.). In the other hand, we use "você" when we are trying to speak in a formal way. As it was said by another member, in Portugal is the same (tu: informal/ você: formal).
However, in the southern part of Brazil (southeast especially) they generally use "você". Hardly you will hear "tu" in São Paulo, for example.
In Brazil Portuguese, yes. In Portugal Portuguese the sound of the "s", in this word, is read "sh" both between vowels and not.
Is Tu & voce simmilar to tu and vu in French? Do you use tu for younger people or close friends & voce for older people and strangers?
Is there a "rule" for using tu or voce?
Você is a the more "polite" form. Você is used much more frequently in Brazilian Portuguese, Tu is used much more frequently in European Portuguese. It varies around different parts of Brazil but in general it seems like they would use "você" for even talking amongst friends whereas in Portugal "tu" would most definitely be used. That's what I've gathered from previous discussions anyway.
So it's "você são" and "tu és" ,and it would be wrong to say "você és"?? Is this right?
When talking with a native speaker from a part of Brazil that commonly seems to use "Tu" instead of "Você", I was taught to pronounce "és" without pronouncing the "s". Is this correct or just dialectal?
I got that, too, for two questions in a row. I wonder if they're planning on fixing this?
Both options to choose from are wrong. (The correct answer is: "és"). PLEASE FIX IT.
Use "és" with "tu" and "é" with "ele" (and with "você", once it conjugates as a third person pronoun)
If i want to say "ustedes son" (from spanish) in portuguese it would be vocês sao the only option ?
I came to wonder if the expression "Você es um homem o não?" as in "Are you a man or not?" exists, does anybody know? Maybe it's worded differently.