Demand for Sicilian?
How many other users want it? Can anyone contribute for it?
There's been some debate if it's more of an Italian dialect or another language altogether (seeing how it existed long before it even became apart of Italy & influenced by many other languages, I would think it would be more than a dialect) so I wonder if it's even eligible for a course of its own & who can contribute since its use is in decline, I think.
I would give someone 200 lingots to apply for Sicilian (if their English was perfect, and they were a native of Sicily).
I meet that requisite :)
If anybody has any queries about the Sicilian language then they can message me directly!
Me too. I have been working on an online dictionary for the Sicilian language: https://www.napizia.com/
It's based on Arthur Dieli's vocabulary list: http://www.dieli.net/SicilyPage/SicilianLanguage/Vocabulary.html
I'm filling it with grammar, poetry, proverbs and examples. I hope it represents the language well and I hope it helps you learn Sicilian.
Yes please! Parru sicilianu e nglisi! A Sicilian DuoLingo will be one of the most important steps towards saving our language from decline. There are nearly five MILLION speakers of Sicilian. Only 80,000 Native Irish speakers. We can make this happen. (note, my family lives in the Gaeltacht, much Gaeilge love)
I personally think as a Sicilian native speaker, that it would be more logical to Sicilian for Italian speakers first, as it is a language of Italy, I think it would just make sense to do Sicilian for Italian, than Sicilian for English speakers.
Many Sicilians outside of Italy don't speak Italian, only Sicilian and the language of the country they or their parents immigrated to.
It doesn't have an established orthography or any significant institutional support, getting tts or recorded voice would require a massive effort, and its popularity among learners is questionable. Consider how many other languages of Europe and beyond are far from entering the incubator, even Catalan.
Gaetano Cipolla's text book would say we have enough support. Come on, if they can get KLINGON working, we can get Sicilian
I am in contact with Dr. Cipolla, he may be interested in consulting as well if we can get the project moving.
Hi friends! I wanted to announce to you that we've started a non-profit dedicated to Sicilian language issues. One of those is definitely something we'd all love to see, Sicilian on DuoLingo! If you're interested in learning more, please like our page: https://www.facebook.com/cademiasiciliana/ and if you have any linguistics or activism training as well, please reach out to me directly! thanks :-D
Sicilian is my mother tongue and I learned English in Canada. I have been studying Italian lately but don't want to loose my Sicilian as the old folks who still speak it in Canada are becoming fewer and fewer. They have also created a new vocabulary made in Canada "Lu carry"
I'm trying to gather together people actively interested in Sicilian language preservation online. We've created a group of dedicated Sicilian language activists. Is this something you'd be interested in?
I would love to see this available. I do not use Facebook and probably never will, so a good course in Sicilian like or in Duolingo would be exciting for me to learn. I love italian proper but Sicilian is my blood.
Be careful with the word 'proper'. I've also internalised this idea deeply that Italian is proper, or 'normal' and we're nonstandard. I still say proper by accident, but it's evidence of a deep power relationship between the two. We're just Sicilian and we speak Sicilian, proper. :-D.
I probably did not phrase this correctly. I meant the "Italian language proper, like what was taught in school to me. Sicilian is of course "proper Sicilian" and that's what I would love to learn in addition to Italian.
Sicilian was my first language. My parents were right off the boat ~ I learned English alongside Sicilian, and then learned Italian in school. I would like to see a course for Sicilian on here, from either English or Italian. I'm currently improving my Catalan skills from Spanish, since it isn't available to English speakers.
I WOULD DO THIS ENGLISH>SICILIAN OR ITALIAN>SICILIAN!!! Omg... this is all I want in the world.
I would love there to be a Sicilian course! Gaetano Cipolla's Mparamu lu Sicilianu (http://a.co/h7cTHZb) and other resources exist for base material. I speak Italian, but if there are Sicilian speakers out there, PLEASE COMMENT if you could contribute. The more interest they see, the more likely they will take steps forward!
Upping this thread! In my opinion, 'my language' will die a sudden death! Youngsters don't even speak sicilian any more. I spoke to some people at the beach, in sicilian, and they were eyeballing me as if I was a peasant who was born 100 years ago...
I would be interested! But I cannot contribute as I know nothing of it.
I would love to see Sicilian available at Duolingo. Both "Sicilian from English" and "Sicilian from Italian" make sense. I would not object to one or the other coming first. Just want to see it available!!!
As someone of partial Neapolitan ancestry with relatives who have lived in Sicily and Naples and spoke Italian, Neapolitan, and Sicilian, you have my support. Hopefully Sicilian is considered for a course, along with Neapolitan.
I support this project very much! I can contribute, been living in Sicily for 20 years and the language is very interesting and peculiar, its grammar and vocabulary are special. I researched a lot about it and of course i hear it every day, even if I recognise when people speak a broken sicilian or italianized sicilian, sadly. But there's hope, and there is a strong literary support to keep it alive.
A couple of days ago, I asked some children which languages they spoke, and they clearly said italian, spanish, sicilian, english. This thing made my day, people are ready to treat it like it should be, ceasing to treat it in a derogatory or ignorant way (this is the luck of other languages than italian, in our country)
Sicily is bilingual! somebody would say De vulgari eloquentia, the eloquence of local language
cheers from a Neapolitan - Sicilian
I have been learning Italian for years now, but my grandfather and great uncle and great aunt only speak Sicilian. I'd love to be able to talk with them in the language of my roots.
Any updates? There is a small course at memrise but it isn't very large. I would like to speak Sicilian over regular Italian, as it is my heritage.
My great grandma was full Sicilian. So I would totally learn this language!!!
I would love if Sicilian was offered since my mother's whole side of the family immigrated to America from Sicily in the 60s, and I don't have anyone to teach me
Same. My grandpa's family immagrated in the early 1900s from Sicily.
My mother tongue are Italian and Sicilian. Also I have a in-depth knowledge of English so I can help making the course whether it is for English speaker or Italian speaker.
Agreed. Even though English is my first language, I think that you should tackle Sicilian after learning Italian.
Forty years ago, I would have agreed with that statement. Forty years ago, there were no English-language resources to help you learn Sicilian.
But in 1985 and 1988, Joseph Bellestri published a pair of Sicilian-English Dictionaries. In 1998, Joseph Privetera published a rudimentary textbook for English speakers. In 2001, Kirk Bonner published a comprehensive grammar for English speakers. And in 2013, Gaetano Cipolla published a first-class textbook for English speakers.
Thanks to their work and the support that Arba Sicula (http://www.arbasicula.org) gave them, it is now possible to learn Sicilian without knowing a word of Italian.
It is still true that Sicilian-Italian dictionaries contain more words and more information that Sicilian-English dictionaries, but that gap is closing. In 2010, Arthur Dieli (http://www.dieli.net) published a 19,000 word vocabulary list to supplement his translations of poetry, proverbs and prose.
Today, we are annotating his vocabulary list with examples from poetry, proverbs and prose plus verb conjugations and noun and adjective declensions.
Today, the Napizia dictionary (https://www.napizia.com) is the one of the largest Sicilian language collections on the internet. And it's written in English.