Why does it have questions I have never seen? I thought that the questions should have been from lessons I have learned already.Help anybody?
I think it should at least be more clear as to what it is. I too thought it would be an extended quiz of the words I currently know. I feel like I wasted most of my lingots. At least they're easy enough to come by :)
My guess is that is gathers all the info, of the entire course, then sees who much you know! I got a HUGE shock when taking my first Progress Quiz! :D
For what language was your first Progress Quiz? Mine was for German and I couldn't even pronounce some of the words ;))
Yeah, I wished there were a statement to the effect of "this covers all course content". I thought it would have been a fancier "strengthen skills", but it was quite a surprise.
I did the quiz twice for German. I got 2.38/5.0 the first time about six months ago and 1.54/5.0 when I did the quiz today. My language skills have definitely improved since the first time I took the quiz, so I am puzzled by the result. I was also very disappointed that I cold not see the answers. There is obviously a reason for this. Maybe people just copy and paste the answers so that they can use them to get a perfect score the next time they do the quiz..
The only reason I can think of for the difference in my two results is that DL takes into account your progress in the tree and the questions are more difficult the more progress you make there. Either that, or I cheated the first time!
Hey, I had a lot of lingots so I spent it on the French Progress Quiz.. But I have not take the quiz yet. If I take the quiz, will I have to spend those lingots again, or will the quiz be awailable at a later time to try again? thanks.
If you take the quiz once, the second time you will need to buy it with lingots again :)
This is the way it worked for me and how I see the purpose of this quiz.
I was given a variety of questions (some easy, some I'd never seen), then as the test progressed it became almost entirely things I'd seen. The way I interpret this is that at the beginning, the quiz 'places' you in terms of what you have completed in the course so far, and then tests your knowledge up to that point
Maybe this is the case, maybe not, it's just what I think about the 1 quiz I have done. I scored 0.84/5 :P
This was my experience as well. I wish I had known that it was testing me on things I genuinely had no chance on at first, but once I figured out it was an adaptive test I felt less terrible.
Also, people who are saying this is not helpful and/or a waste of time have not read up about the "testing effect" in psychology -- basically, the best (albeit most frustrating) way to learn is to be tested on material. Even without being shown the right answers, even when it feels like you're becoming dumber. There's something about being forced to practice retrieving information that really hammers knowledge home long-term.
So: I'll continue to suffer through this test once a month because it's likely to be effective for retention. Kind of a comical mess for the first couple minutes while it lowers your ability level, though...
I've been learning Polish for a few months. Had used various resources before registering with D/L and I was interested to see my progress, intending to try it as often as possible - after all, what's the point of earning Lingots if you can't spend them??!! I was therefore very disappointed when, having saved up 25 lingots for my third test, I found the test option had been removed from the Lingot store on my system. I queried it all with 'trouble-shooting' but have had no response from D/L themselves - only other D/L members who think I'm on the A/B test system or similar and I can't do anything about it. Make use of the facility whilst you have it and enjoy it. I enjoy the challenge of trying to beat the clock on the timed exercises, but it's not quite the same.
It must be only the Polish exam because the Swedish exam works. (I do not know D/L or A/B terms.)
Thanks for your response. Sorry about the D/L and A/B abbreviations. I've seen D/L quite a few times on the posts (short for Duolingo). A/B is used regarding the A/B tests Duolingo run on some unfortunate Duolingo members. I have not yet found out what A/B stands for! A lingot is coming your way, as thanks for bothering to respond.
"A/B" doesn't stand for anything -- it's a way to designate two testing groups, A and B. One group gets a certain feature, the other group does not -- or group A gets one variant of a page, group B gets a different variant -- and the company doing the experimenting figures out which is more effective.
Here's a beginner's guide to the principles: https://blog.kissmetrics.com/ab-testing-introduction/
And here's an example of an A/B test: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/B_testing#An_emailing_campaign_example
Interesting - the Norwegian exam is still available for 'purchase' as well. Did you ever get an answer on where it went? I totally agree with you that it seems the only substantive use for one's earned lingots.
Edited: now the Norwegian progress quiz has disappeared! Alas.
I am quite puzzled by the scoring in the quiz: I have gotten few times 5.0 out of 5.0 when I did not feel particularly great about my answer and just after that I got 2.8/5.0, when I felt more confident about my answers. There is something fishy about the quiz and its scoring system. I wish I could see at least which questions I did wrong.
It's not an actual progress quiz because it doesn't take in consideration your level in that language. The test is intended to show you your proficiency in that language. Even if you have completed the tree of that language you probably won't get 5 out of 5.
No, it is a comprehensive test. It is to see how much of the course you have learned.
You can waste your lingots if you did not advance enough to even understand the questions.
I got a taste of things to come from the bonus skills itself and wisely decided against any such misadventures until I have made good progress in the course. IMO these options shouldn't even be available so early in the course.
Agree with folks below - have had two massive shocks on the Italian quiz - and the latest was far worse than the first I took, though I thought I had become generally stronger, apart from overstretching myself too soon with the future perfect.
BUT more to the point - WHAT'S THE POINT OF THE PROGRESS QUIZ?
Unless I have missed something, there is no way of checking your answers/seeing what you got wrong. So as a learning tool it seems to me worse than useless.
If DL allowed you to review your answers after the event I can though see it being very useful.
Apologies if I have missed something, but for the moment I won't be repeating the exercise.
Thanks, your comments saved me some lingots, I'll take the test after the end of the tree.
I'd just use the normal "strengthen skills" thingy, the thing marked with "dumbells" on the web and Android DLs. Seems perfectly good to me - seems to test you on appropriate stuff.
However you should get timed practice! Very helpful for competitive people like me. As an example: It helps you want to get all the questions right! So you keep on practicing! (Although I think you might have it already.) Just my opinion, though!
I really wish I would have read this before!
Why doesn't it provide the answers at the end so you can learn from your mistakes?
So it does that after 1 year of people complaining about it? About to purchase it with my "lingots" so should I be worried what to expect? lol
I dunno if you've already purchased it, but in case you haven't it's a comprehensive test of the ENTIRE skill tree, so if you haven't done it all there'll be questions you simply can't answer. It shows you a score at the end and keeps a history for you, but doesn't show you your answers or where you went wrong. It's a measure of how well you've internalized the lessons, but not intended to do anything else.
just figured that out after buying it earlier and stopping after a few questions because they were so out there. i'm very aggravated right now. i wish it had at least warned me that it was a one time deal.
Wish I had read this before taking and failing the Italian quiz like a champ. I got 1.0/5.0. Yikes.
I agree fully on this post. I have got 2,8/5 on German test and of course very suprised. I really respect the Duo community but the quiz is not well organized..mostly because it is not instructive, can not see the answers...
should've looked this up before since I just started this and all the questions were far beyond my level. I thought it was a PROGRESS quiz, as in one you can take AS you progress, just an extended version of the "practice" but without the hints. annoyed since I'm down to 3 lingots now
- You tested out of a level before making it through the content quizes.
- It is new material that they have added.
- They are testing your ability to be creative with the language and grammatically correct.
There should be a skip option, so if you don't know the word or the whole sentence, at least you can skip it. Otherwise it forces you to answer anything to skip. That, or it should only add one new word at a time. Seeing a completely unknown sentence is useless. Other than that I love Duolingo
AARGHH! I thought it was a progress quiz as well. Struggled with the first few questions resulting in a low score. Notice I seemed to have past more checkpoints that I should have, so I reset my course this would solve my quiz issue. Didn’t work, of course, but now I have a lot of easy XP points to earn as I quiz out on each available lesson that I previously completed. Add me to those who would have preferred a quiz based upon the level you are currently at!
I definitely agree. Having material I have never learned on a quiz has the opposite effect on me that a quiz should have. It makes me feel like I will never get the material, and that it is hopeless. I would prefer a quiz that gives me confidence and helps me feel I am making good progress because I have learned so much on the material I have been through.