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Irish Course: Important Info

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Contents

  1. Welcome

  2. Audio

  3. Constructive Criticism and Reports

  4. Important Information/Advice Regarding Ireland and Irish History

  5. Tree 2.0

  6. New Contributors

  7. Thanks


Welcome

Welcome learners to the long-awaited Irish course! We have put many hours into this course and we hope you enjoy it. If you have any questions, don't be afraid to get in touch with a member of Team Irish.


Audio

The audio used in this course is a real human. This means 2 things: 1) The audio is very clear and 2) Not all sentences have audio. But don't worry, each word is included in at least 1 recording, so you are guaranteed to learn the pronunciation.


Constructive Criticism and Reports

We welcome your constructive criticism, but remember, even though we're out of beta, the course still isn't perfect. You can tell us your thoughts in the discussion section or on our streams.

Remember to use the report button within the lesson to report any issues you have with a sentence or exercise. Reporting in the sentence discussion is a waste of your valuable time as we are not guaranteed to see it.


Important Information/Advice Regarding Ireland and Irish History

As many of you know, Ireland has a diverse and interesting history, which is also, well, difficult and "touchy". I bring this up because during the first few days of the course's release, I saw several comments from users asking an honest question met with criticism for not knowing or understanding. I know many Irish people (and people of Irish descent) are proud of our history and take offence when people make a mistake or ask a question. I think it is great to be proud of our history, but please remember that some users of the Irish course are being exposed to Ireland, its culture and its history for the first time. These people may not be fully aware of Ireland's political and social situation, but this is ok. Our Irish course will grow from just a language course to a full learning experience where everyone can learn and enjoy Ireland in all its beauty (through the power of Gaeilge). Remember that Duolingo is a language learning community and we are all here to learn, grow and have fun. Thank you for listening...or, well...reading while I got a bit serious for a moment. This is important and I want all users of the Irish course to have fun and be equal. This is an amazing chance for you to meet people from all over the world who have an interest in our beautiful language. So since that was a bit...serious....here is an amazing picture of the Cliffs of Moher in Co. Clare :)


Tree 2.0

After over a year of our original course, we are now working on a major overhaul (dubbed "Tree 2.0"). This will be a great opportunity for us to add more content to the course and take all of your feedback from the original tree into account to make sure our course is as good as it can be. If you have any suggestions or ideas for the new tree version, please go to this thread and join in the discussion!


New Contributors

We are always looking for new contributors to work on the course with us. If you are fluent in English and Irish (or, at the very least, speak both languages to a good level), apply here. Look at this thread for more information about applying and contributing.


Thanks

A big "Go raibh maith agaibh" to the whole Duo team for making this possible, especially our Incubator mentors mukkapazza, Ker and vivisaurus who helped us so much to get where we are today. Also, thank you to all the users who have been patient and are now using our course!

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August 25, 2014

466 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SarahBecraft

This isn't a criticism - I understand this is in beta so I'm thinking that's the cause - but will there be a 'words' section to review flashcards like French, Spanish, Italian, and Portuguese have when it's released as stable?

I am having a very hard time with the vocabulary, so I was excited about the flashcards feature and then realized Irish didn't have them.

(I'd also like if the flashcards or words section could play the audio instead of having the definition alone, so I could practice how they sound. But that's more a general note about the flashcards, because I'd like to use that feature more before jumping into new lessons.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GaTechGal

I also would find flashcards (especially with audio) EXTREMELY helpful.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/taylooo__1

you are right. This lesson is extremely hard


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JeskeH

Me, too! I keep forgetting those words (or mixing up the lenition/eclipse-forms and/or the plurals), so that I need to revisit the previous lessons all the time before I can go on. I wish I could speak Irish so I could help them develop that extra content.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KajiraPumpkin

I'm doing the same thing.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keishacat

i am really hoping for a words section as well. It would help alot.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sr.Stephen

It's not enough audio. Especially in the Family section there are MANY words that I'm not getting any audio for, not even once, and I can't figure out Irish pronunciation for myself yet.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

If you understand the International Phonetic Alphabet, you can find spelling/pronunciation rules at Wikipedia.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EavanM

This has brought an idea to mind -- I wonder if there's any way to integrate IPA into Duolingo lessons?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/neopkwaii

Wow EavanM, what a wonderful idea!!! It could probably be an "intro to speaking" course (only a few levels long) that only teaches IPA and how to use it-then all the other courses could utilize that standardization throughout all of DuoLingo. As a HS choral teacher, my kids think I'm evil for making them learn it ;-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ViefCakes

Any student of Phonetics would looooove an IPA course!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

I would love to learn IPA, since it would help so much in learning languages. Please let me know if you have any plans in this regard!!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGilli14

Your kids don't realize how lucky they are. Keep it up!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CatMcCat

There are IPA courses at Memrise. I had signed up for one, mostly because I wanted to know how to pronounce things based on the squigglies. I gave up on it because I was less interested in learning what you call them and more in how you pronounce them, but, of course, knowing what they're called is probably useful, because otherwise you're pointing at symbols yelling, "GgnnnaaaA!" like a toddler before it learns to ask politely for things. I may return to it later when I have a bit more patience. Still, it is there and the one I took seemed decent. I wish I could remember the one I had signed up for, then dropped, because it seemed decent but, unfortunately, I do not.

I hope this links works - I just went to Memrise and searched for IPA: http://www.memrise.com/courses/english/?q=IPA


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tmcg

That's very handy; thanks for the link! I'm trying 'English Pronunciation' (IPA), and the symbols seem to be attaching to the sounds pretty well in my head.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IuileanMGabhann

That said, standard IPA for Irish is WAY too complicated. They write things like /ˈpˠɔsˠt̪ˠ/ for ‘post’, which is almost a phonetic analysis, when on a phonemic level /ˈpɔst/ will do just fine. Myself I can read the official version but I hope if the IPA gets integrated a simpler, truly phonemic version is used, for the sake of people not familiar with IPA (ofcourse the actual sound values of the phonemic symbols would have to be explained in a separate lesson).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IuileanMGabhann

That said, other than that detail, integrating IPA into the course IS a fabuolous idea and it would allow the course to show all possible variations of a word, including Ulster and Connact versions, as opposed to the predominantly Munster-based pronunciation heard in the audio files.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MichaelWor9

Duolingo might even consider offering a "mini-course" on IPA. I've been meaning to master it for a long time, and been procrastinating for a little longer. I really love all the Gaelic languages but even after some Welsh, Irish is a bit intimidating.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/danisaurella

While knowing a language's phonetic system is extremely helpful when you first start out, knowing the alphabet won't tell you how each phoneme acts in every environment. The audio is going to teach you that faster than any Wikipedia page will. I want to hear so much audio that I get sick of it. I want to immerse myself in glorious streams of that sweet, sweet Gaeilge.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/transcend77

"I want to hear so much audio that I get sick of it" <~ this is the only way I will learn correct pronunciation.

For a native English speaker, some of the phonemes in Irish are quite foreign to me. I have studied Spanish on and off for 15 years. Irish phonemes are more difficult to pronounce for me by far... It seems similar in difficulty to French phonemes so far...

Irish Duolingo Team: Please add more audio! Please put the audio pronunciation on each question so we can hear it over and over! Thank you! :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MichaelWor9

I think it's especially important in Irish because (other than the novel orthography) I know that one of the things that attracted me to Irish was the beauty of the spoken language. Ordinary sentences seem poetic. I understand it must be a challenge for Duolingo because despite the very healthy revival of Irish Gaelic there are still relatively few "authoritative" speakers. To hurry this and provide inaccurate pronunciation would be worse than the current lack of audio. That said, PLEASE HURRY DUOLINGO! Without audio, Irish is presenting me with the greatest challenge in language acquisition I've ever encountered, and this includes my time playing around with non-IE languages like Hebrew, Arabic, and Chinese.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

Did you look at that Irish orthography page? It doesn’t show only the alphabet; it shows how different “environments” affect the pronunciation of the various letter combinations.

It’s been a year since I’d written that comment; why do you believe that the absence of those glorious streams of audio during that year would have taught you those phonemes more quickly than an existing Wikipedia page would have?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/danisaurella

Written pronunciation guides are always helpful, but so is a more immersive approach to language learning. I just recently started learning Irish, and I've been learning Portuguese through the DL app for a while. Because of all the audio that was available for Portuguese, I was able to pick up the pronunciation really quickly without even needing to look at a Wikipedia page. It was a really fun language puzzle for me. I was hoping to have the same experience with Irish since I'm using the same app. I think what I'm trying to say is that I retain words better if I have a visual and aural sense of the word. I'm going to check out the page still and fill the gaps until more audio can be implemented. Thanks for posting that!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ColinE412185

There is an Irish synthesis site abair.ie which give you the pronunciation of Irish words. Abair means 'to say' in Irish. Hope this helps


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daithi8

Yes, it's good, but it's essentially only Connemara. This is not so bad because Connemara is a clear accent, unlike Munster. This is a bit of a shame as Munster is taken as the "standard"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

They’ve since added a synthesized Corca Dhuibhne voice at abair.ie.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cait48

I'm not sure that you're looking at the same site, Daithi8. On abair.ie, the Ulster (Gaoth Dobhair) synthesizer was the first one completed -- I don't think you would have missed it!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FenwaynLizzie

Yes, I too would love to know if there will be a "words" section in the future! I know this awesome course is still a work in progress, but I do hope that this feature comes along at some point :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lavinae

Alex, Lancet, Dubhais, Odoinn and Laura,

I was gonna say that your Duo mascot is just so cute...but he has a beard...so he seems mature... (;

Does he hand out lucky clovers... perhaps colored ones like these?

In any case, go raibh maith agaibh for giving us an Irish course, you guys!

Good luck with moderating and managing both the course and the forums.
I'm sure you'll do a great job!
Heck..you might not even need any luck... :)

Best wishes from me...
and team Dutch by extension! ^^


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

Thank you @Lavinae! Indeed he does give out those shamrocks, but he can only be found at the end of the Duolingo rainbow with a pot of golden skills.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kvbrig

Glad to see that a language that's not widely spoken anymore can be brought back through such a great service as Duolingo. Irish was a great choice. Keep up the good work, and thanks for putting all of this together for us! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GearoidinOg

First of all, I want to say I am loving the Irish course. I live with two teenage boys who go to school in Irish, so I get lots of help, but I'm an Aussie so I didn't go to school in Ireland: therefore missing out on learning the language of my ancestors as a kid! So, it's terrific, and I'm applying all the skills and bits and pieces I've picked up from 8+ years of helping with homework, and enjoying every minute.

I'm a language teacher myself, and I've recently been doing a bit of research into gamification. And I have one suggestion. Although I understand completely, from the linguistic perspective, why it is imperative to have learners go back over words that they have already learnt, in order to reinforce that learning, from a game-play perspective, I find it frustrating when I click on "Home" and I see a whole bunch of icons I have to go back to, in order to do that reinforcing. There is a commonly held belief among game designers that once you've earnt a badge, that's it, it's yours, and no-one should be able to take it away from you.

So I wonder if, instead of having to go backwards, so as to go back over words/phrases/grammar that's been already learnt, could it also work to have some kind of merged challenge: i.e. I log on today, and I can't progress any further until I've done my "Keep Up" challenge. Let's say, a personalised set of questions that arise out of the mistakes that I've made in my progress so far? When I was doing the French track, I got a bit frustrated when Duo asked me to go right back to Basics 1 to "keep the words from fading in my memory".. I've been speaking French for 30+ years. I won't forget "bonjour" in a hurry :)

I hope this comes across as constructive rather than critical. I really enjoy Duolingo. I recommend it to students, and parents, as an excellent accompaniment to "formal" study, and personally, I've really come on with the Irish track. My sons love challenging me to see who can out-perform whom in the levels. I'd just love it if my suggestion could perhaps make the system even better :)

Keep up the great work. Ger.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

This really isn't anything within the powers of Incubator contributors , but I think it's interesting so I will pass it on to those who may be able to give you better feedback. Thanks :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Azais

Thank you all for the course ! I love the tips and notes you left so far.

I'm glad the Duo "Zero grammar rule" is fading away because your tips at the beginning of each lesson are so helpful !

I would never have tried to learn irish if it wasn't on Duo because i wouldn't have thought of it ! So thank you again Irish team :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/megan1505

I agree with you--if not for Duolingo, I would have never even dreamed of learning Irish (or Dutch, or Portuguese, or French :D)

A huuuge thank you to the Irish team for this course! (In addition, their grammar tips & notes are helpful beyond belief.) I'm looking forward to working through the tree! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlmogL

I also find the tips and notes are very clear and helpful so far.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/leonig01

A bit offtop, but since I admire your devotion (344 days streak!!!), I just felt like giving you a lingot )


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mark-learns

here is one for you with 9 languages you also have devotion


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlmogL

Hey thanks! :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sliabhliag

Thank-you very much for this course ! My mom was a native Irish speaker from the Donegal Gealtacht, so at the age of 61, I thought it was about time that I began to learn this beautiful language !


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

Awesome that your mother was an Irish speaker from Dunegal. (I know I spelled that wrong.) I'm heading over this June to Glencolmcille for a week long immersion course. I wish I could go longer, but I'm hoping to make it annual event. Next year I am planning to go out for three weeks. Saving all my holidays for that.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jeff_Graham

Thank you so much for this course. My wife and I are looking forward to speaking Irish as a way to talk privately amongst our English speaking family here in California! Doubt there are many Irish speakers here but I'd also love to visit Ireland someday down the road.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wildautumngoose

My grandmother from Tuum used to do this when my father was a kid. When she and whoever she was speaking with realized that the kids were listening in, she would say (something like), "Tá siad féin ag éisteacht" (Themselves are listening) and they'd start speaking Irish. :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

I used to do this in French with my son's father, until we realised that the smart son and heir knew exactly what we were talking about, and was playing dumb.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TatianaBeastmode

It's a really good way to trick kids into learning languages. =D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GertWall

where in california? riverside county by any chance? Perhaps we could eventually get a speaking group together. check out www.gaelminn.org/


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jeff_Graham

That would be awesome, but unfortunately I am in Yuba City (north of Sacramento). Thanks for the link!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/transcend77

I live in Riverside city, by UCR. Where do you live?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SuperBlooper

Haha that old trick is still going strong. Good luck to you two. You should visit Ireland when you get a chance. Not to brag, but I think it's a really beautiful and friendly country.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shoukra

Totally used that all the time when traveling. My Irish is bad, but good enough to work out bargaining tactics with my companions without the locals knowing what we're talking about. I found that when people try to do that with other languages, it doesn' work as well because more of the numbers and words are cognates.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BlueWillow991967

Heh. Be careful with that in Germany. For some reason you run into more Germans who have learned Irish than you do among other non-Anglophones.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/quis_lib_duo

The reason is Böll, his Irisches Tagebuch (Irish Journal), to be exact.

Much of Germany's love for an "imaginary Ireland" (i.e. the imagination of Ireland as a picturesque and pious country and nation, untainted by modernity) is based on this book and its musings about a people of days gone by. In some respects, this sentiment might be a testimony to (and follow from) German romanticism and its antimodernist leanings.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

Again, that is truly wonderful.

I've lived and worked in France, and was always disappointed that so many French people lumped Ireland together with England. (Made watching the world cup confusing.) And yet strangely they know that Scotland isn't England.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EavanM

Thanks for offering this explanation. I had vaguely wondered Ireland was popular in Germany.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

Really? That's awesome!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

French people know that Scotland isn’t England because of the Auld Alliance.

(I’m replying here because the Reply link is missing from the comment that I’m really replying to.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

It is indeed. I'm going to a Gaeltacht in June, and am desperately scrabbling to get my childish Irish up to a decent scratch again. So thank you all for this site!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LilyoftheShadows

It's incredibly difficult to learn Irish without good resources, so I'm beyond thrilled that y'all got this going!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bjarkehs

Hey guys! I just wanted to congratulate you guys all official and stuff. I hope that we will keep up the friendly atmosphere that has made working at the Incubator a breeze. Don't stop being awesome, and your course is great!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/seanwalter4

Trying to learn on the beta courses via Internet on my phone through duo. The set up is slow on my phone and was wondering when it will be ready for the Android app part. I've tried learning Irish through bitesize Irish but I gave up. Your app is awesome so you can say I'm very patient to learn when it will come out. I'm super exited


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/El_Devorador

I agree, and I wait patiently !


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ZelvaCZ

Dia duit :)

Go riabh maith agat for the Irish course! :D Is buachaill mé!

Slán :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/agathiel

And that's what I love about Duolingo. It's enough to just start a course to be able to write a few words and to feel nice about it, as well as understand some very basic sentences! :D

Big thanks to all the creators of the course, I admire the amount of work and effort it took! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Teahl

My boyfriend and I have been wanting to learn Irish for years! We tried Rosetta Stone, but I just couldn't afford to keep paying in blood....

Thank you so much for your hard work! We are very excited. The audio sounds great so far.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gumamela_eater

Go raibh maith agat! I've always wanted to learn Irish!

I'm glad to find another non-Romance language here! :) The Tips & Notes section is a big help, especially since not a lot of people speak a language very related to Irish! The spelling is a bit confusing, though, but I guess I'll be able to manage. At least the word order is similar to the most common word order in my native tongue.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ungewitig_Wiht

What is your native language?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ElaineMckeown

Thank you for the Irish course, I know I will learn more with Duolingo than I did in 14 years at school in Ireland


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WahahaDrills

This is way cool. Thank you! If only school weren't starting right now, though. orz


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Erkte
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I just want to say a big thank you to all the people who made this course. Irish I really appreciate your efforts in making your beautiful language available for all to learn for free. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/motinavation

Thanks so much for this course! my boyfriend and I will soon have a "secret" way of communication here in Austria ;). Also our next vacation will probably be to Ireland now. The language seems so "old", so unlike most of the European languages, it feels a bit like travelling back through time, re-connecting to times long gone... and I'm really happy (and positive) that the Irish language will have a kind of revival made possible by DUO and the incubator-teams. Go raibh maith agat!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Fe2h2o

Go raibh maith agat! Your course is making a mess of me getting to bed promptly, but I'm having a great time:-) Gaeilge has been on my list of languages to get to, but this has just made it so accessible:-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GordMcFee

This is really terrific. The best approach I've seen so far.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/superluigi13

I wasn't exactly too excited for this course, but once I heard the language audio, I fell in love. I don't care if it's not as widely spoken as English or Mandarin Chinese, it is a great language nonetheless and it's great that we've released a course for it so more people can speak it and keep the language alive. Thank you course contributors!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/niamhmccc

Hi I'm Niamh and I'm from Armagh, the only problem I've had is that the course seems to be quite Southern orientated..... agus mar Ultach tá sé i bhfad níos deacra!! i was able to adapt well to it, especially regarding the seimhiú/úrú situation, but some of the translations I use for certain words weren't coming up.. mar shampla ní raibh an fhocal 'nasc' ceart mar aistriúchán don fhocal 'connection'...ní raibh ach 'ceangal' ceart mar fhreagra. Ulster Gaeilgeoirí would certainly be a useful tool for beginners i think :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dubhais

We've done a fair bit to make it more Ulster friendly, like including tá mé, lenition in the dative (this should be accepted in all cases), gasúr as an alternative for boy etc. We can always do more, as Brighid rightly says, so please report it and it will help us improve the course for everyone.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Brid-Eilis

Use the report function and tell them about alternative words. Then "nasc" will be accepted too.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hydranockz

Thank you so much for your efforts in getting this to beta. It is an absolute shame this wasn't available many years ago when I was doing Junior Cert and Leaving Cert Irish! Seriously! I felt like I just kinda 'learned off' whatever needed reciting for primary school irish classes so by the time secondary came around, my knowledge of the fundamentals of the language were lacking.

Having the discussion pages right there on the translations is like being able to put your hand up in class and not feel like you're 'dragging on an already dragging Irish class'. As someone who has learned all this stuff before and has mostly forgotten it all, it is so refreshing to see actual healthy discussions on why things are the way they are.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/melody-r

I've been waiting for 10 years for something like this course, since I've heard Irish for the first time :) This is like a miracle to me! :D Thank you all so much for this opportunity!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Fulcrum-Agent

Will this course end up with having audio on the picture selection questions like the other courses? And are there plans to have the "repeat this sentence" questions like other courses? Those are the two things I find the course to be missing that really seem to help with other courses that I think would also be extremely helpful here. Otherwise, so far I've lucked out and not had any bugged sessions and everything's matched up to the way the other courses work! You've all done a great job!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fjrichman

I would imagine even though the audio isn't there in all aspects like you'd see on the Spanish or German course that if the infrastructure provided by duolingo is there those working on this language it will eventually be added. As for the "repeat this sentence" I assume you mean the microphone lessons, which alexinIreland addressed for someone else, stating that the STT technology isn't there yet for it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NohTaebin

Amazing. Thank you for all your hard work Team Irish! We look forward to helping get it through Beta! This is by the coolest course to date!! :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cluaran

I've wanted to learn Irish for as long as I can remember, but couldn't find any (good) resources to do so. I've only had time to get through the first lesson so far, but I know if it's Duolingo, it's going to be great, and I can't wait to get further through the tree. Thanks so much Team Irish for all your hard work to bring us this opportunity! :-D

PS - I love the Irish owl!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mr.presley1705

I'm going to start as soon as I finish my homework!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shoukra

I'm coming across lots of incorrect audio - you're sure I should hit report on each one?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BriannaBorka

that's the only way they're going to know something is incorrect. That's the point of beta, so I'd say yeah, report it if its wrong.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shoukra

Will do. Some seem to already be reported, according to the comments, but perhaps as I progress there will be fewer people that have got that far / know enough Irish to know that the audio is incorrect for sure.


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    It's just proper cool to see an Irish course being offered! :) xx


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TruantEnt

    In the word overview before you start a lesson, some words are spelled differently than in the lesson. (Bhean, fhear in the overview. Bean, fear in the lesson.) Are both spellings correct?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shoukra

    Yes, they're both correct. You might not have got to the level yet, so I'm copying and pasting from the tips and notes of the "Lenition" level:

    Séimhiú (lenition) is where an extra letter h is added between the first and second letters of a word in certain situations. It changes the spelling and pronunciation of a word, but not the meaning.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AaronMacGafraidh

    Just bear in mind if you're looking up a word in your dictionary, the entry will be without the séimhiú or any other initial mutation. I noticed what Colemak was talking about in the lessons.. I think to avoid confusion, it would be nice if the course contributors could clean up the lesson intros where upcoming vocab is mentioned. A lot of the examples stray from 'dictionary entry' and seem plucked from the middle of a sentence.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shoukra

    I believe that is one of the things on their list already


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JamesTWils

    Thank you for the course. I have learned a lot of Indoeuropean languages and one non-Indoeuropean, but I have always found Celtic languages an impossible nut to crack. This is beginning to give me some hope. Now, let's get the Welsh working on one.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/davo256

    I agree and hopefully one day, the Bretons, the Catalans and the Basques


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gingervampqueen

    Is there any way to change the font to one that will have more obvious accents over the i's? I wear contacts/glasses but I have a hard differentiating between the accented and unaccented i's sometimes. In general the accents for all languages need to be better defined, at least from my perspective. I don't know if it's just my eyes, but it's hard to tell most of the time.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/exeisen

    I have good vision (young eyes, no glasses) and I have a lot of trouble with the i fada in this font as well. It's definitely not just you.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CatMcCat

    Definitely not just your eyes. I have the same problem, especially with /i/. I thought it might just be my own truly horrible vision, but nope.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

    No, there’s no option to change the typeface; Museo Sans Rounded isn’t the best choice for distinguishing between i and í. If you use a computer for Duolingo, your browser might have a “zoom” feature to increase the size of the typeface, which can help to distinguish them. I don’t know if a similar option exists for Duolingo apps.

    EDIT: See this discussion for a way to change the font if you use either Firefox, Chrome, Safari, or Opera as your browser.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IuileanMGabhann

    I agree, this is really a problem for example when you see a verb form of a new verb ending in e.g. -im or -ím, but you can’t properly tell what conjugation class it belongs to. If the font can’t changed, is it perhaps not an idea to use the Gaelic Type convention where non-fada ‘i’ is written without the dot, like on road signs? After all this convention originally arose for this exact reason: to differentiate ı (i) from í.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

    UPDATE: Hello everyone :D If you are interested, we are currently running a survey! We want to hear your feedback about our course. We also want to hear want you want in Tree 2.0!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sesostris

    An-obair atá deanta agaibh, go raibh míle maith agaibh! Tá tnúth agam le mo chuid Gaeilge a fheabhsú le cuidiú bhur gcursa =D Agus tá suil agam go mbeidh mé in ann cuidiú a thabhairt ar ais...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SuperBlooper

    The choice of words are a bit odd at time but thanks so much for making this. It's really good.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/redsoxx15

    The Cliffs of Moher are down the street from where my grandfather is from, good picture choice!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/paddyobrien

    Tá mé an-bhuíochasach den áis seo! Go raibh maith agaibh cúigear! Rinne sibh sár jab ar na notaí agus mínithe. Go díreach cad a bhí uaim chun tuilleadh cruinneas a chur ar mo chuid Gaeilge. Le cúnamh Dé spreagfaidh seo athbheochán den teanga sa tír!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ululare

    I love learning some Irish here. I just have one note on the order in wich words are represented. For some reason certain words like portán, béar and uisce are repeated all the time. often 4-5 in a row( when I was learning the animal lesson, I had in one row to translate an portán, portán, (spell) portán, crab, portán, the crab,) while in the phrases section when trying to learn congratulations; comhghairdeas, the most difficult for me to remember so far, I had to redo that specific lesson in order to just have it pass by my screen twice (just reading, not even typing it). I am not sure whether it is a complete coincidence or that it has to do with the way the lessons are written, but if there could be a better mix of the words that would be helpful. I haven't had this issue with any of the other languages yet, but that might be because I am less of a novice in those areas and therefor don't notice it as well. But six in a row really happened only with Irish.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

    Yeah I have had the exact same experience. And with the same words, too. The pattern continues for at least as far as I have gotten thru the program so far. The strengthening lessons aren't any better--both the ones within each of the lessons and the one for Irish as a whole. In fact, despite my level 13 rating, the overall strengthening is STILL giving me bean agus fear, buachaill agus cailin, etc, from the very early lessons while totally ignoring some of the harder, more recent words. There should be some way for the app to realize it has given me the exact same thing 5 times in a row and present something new.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/galaxyrocker

    It's advisable to never to do the overall strengthening. Instead, do each individual lesson's strengthening.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TranceGemini613

    I have the exact same problem and it's SO FRUSTRATING! My spouse, a software engineer, tells me it's a result of sloppy code-writing. He also tells me it's relatively easy to fix, depending on what programming language is used. That said, these comments are from a year ago, and my issues with this same problem are at least as old. That's ridiculous and really, very frustrating as well. :( I greatly dislike feeling like feedback is entirely ignored.

    Addendum: At least I know that "Pol" is "Paul". Glad THAT made it in there. /s


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JarodKerney

    i'm loving this course so far! it's been a lot easier than i thought (but still challenging). one thing (probably the only thing) that's irritating is that it tends to hit hard on some words over and over, and leave others out, except for every great once in a while. While testing myself on animals, for example, i will get "elephant" and "crab" like 5-6 times in every practice session, while others, like butterfly, deer and fox, are hardly ever in the questions. i've done the animals session about 20x so far, but have only heard fox and butterfly spoken once. Other categories are like that too, for me anyway. i'd like to see it mixed up a bit more so i can get the other words down better. i have eilifintí, portán and úll, with all their variations down very well since they come up repeatedly in almost every session, but others not so much. Just my feedback. go ribh maith agat!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

    yeah ditto. Tho i am not entirely sure i ever knew butterfly was in the lessons.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JarodKerney

    "Féileacán" is the word i saw for butterfly, and i saw it only once in my hours of practice. Never heard it pronounced. Several others are rarely used. Seal (rón), deer (fia), rabbit (Coinín), and owl (ulchabhán) are all others i have had in my practice sessions only a couple of times. so far for me, the excessive over use of some words and almost complete omission of others is the only thing i find irritating. Still an awesome site though.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ciara97

    Ceapaim go bhfuil an cúrsa gaeilge go han mhaith ar fad! Maith thú Alex agus gach duine eile ar an foireann gaeilge agus go raibh míle maith agat don obair deachair a rinne sibh :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dubhais

    Go ndeanaidh a mhaith duit, a Chiara.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/moosebouse

    Is anyone else having trouble running the Duolingo app on an iPhone and iPad since adding Irish? I've reinstalled it a couple of times today and it is still not working, even in other languages, on both devices. I've never had a problem with the app before.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AaronMacGafraidh

    Tá mé théis an cúrsa ar fad a chríochnú--grma. Molaim an clasál coibhneasta, an chopail, réamhfhocail comhshuite, míreanna ceisteacha, etc. a chur sna ceachtanna arda. Agus tuilleadh fuaime!

    Is dócha go bhfuil níos mó ag teacht ar ndóigh! Má tá mise in ann cabhair a thabhairt don tionscadal in aon chaoi, abair é! :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SyriusTank

    Thank you so much for adding an Irish course! I made a Duolingo account only a month ago but was disappointed in the absence of the one language I really wanted to learn, but, lo and behold, it was added not long after. I look forward to learning this beautiful language and thanks again for all of your hard work and effort. Please let us know when this is available for the Duolingo Android app.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MzMolly65

    Thank you, thank you, thank you. For all the hard work, time and effort you've all put in. I've been to the Cliffs of Moher and your photo brought back fond memories.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/oliveyou

    Thank Duolingo for being wonderful and for making an Irish course! It is a language I have always wanted to learn (along with Swedish which I see is on the way :) .


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pnolan1986

    Woot, you guys are the best! I can't wait to learn Irish now!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/swoop64

    Yayyyyy so happy! Great work guys!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fjrichman

    I tried out the first few lessons in the course, and I noticed that (I'm assuming) because they're recorded with a real voice there is no "slow" version to some stuff. I was curious if it'd be possible perhaps to load up the sentences in something like Audacity and break down all the recorded words down into their own files which would then be usable for the pronunciation on some words like some of the other courses have, also it'd let you play the voices at the "slow" place.

    Is there a plan to add this in eventually? I realize it's only in beta so I was curious.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/O_Fallon

    There's a great website for this kind of thing too: abair.ie just type in any Irish word, choose the dialect and then select synthesize and then press play :) ( abair dot ie )


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/niamhmccc

    think that sounded a bit too harsh there.... i still fully enjoyed the course and found it really great refreshing my memory!! GRMMA.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/melkavanagh

    good luck with the course guys, will my best to plug away, bit bogged down in the french at the moment and ive just moved to cyprus so bit of greek creeping in,, not that i'm any good at languages mind, cupla focal here there and everywhere just wanted to wish duolingo well with this


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/O_Fallon

    go raibh mi/le maith agaibh a chairde!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lukitas-ARG

    I'm learning english, but I like it..!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kitty100_MC

    Ur learning English? I live in Australia and I'm only level 1 in Irish XD


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

    But you've started - that is more than most people ever do. (Clappy hands!)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kitty100_MC

    lol i guess so. Spanish is my highest skill so far and Irish and Dutch are my lowest :3 No that cat face doesn't work D: so I'll have to do :} that's scary face XD


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

    I am going to concentrate on my Irish for a while - it is tough, and I'm Irish! When it start feeling solid again I will start in again on my other languages - Spanish now. I would love to speak it, but it's one of those I find tough.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TaylarStratton

    I am Irish too but it is just a little easy. Do you know how much Irish is in your blood?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TaylarStratton

    I will give you a lingot to you for good luck on learning the Irish language.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sparlato12

    I am currently studying abroad in Ireland and I am so happy to be taking this course! It is so easy and lots of fun to do something other than my classes. I would never in a million years though I would be learning how to speak Irish. I am so excited to be able to participate in my Irish heritage in such a meaningful way! Thank you so much! Go raibh maith agaibh!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/emluvlucy107

    Thanks so much for letting us have Irish!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OldBob

    Thanks for the Irish course. I've always been interested in learning it but figured I'd save it for someday. Then to have it offered free on Duolingo was like pennies from heaven so to speak. Even if I never make that voyage to the Aran islands its a trip to learn the lingo of me ancestors....


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aprilstaedt

    I had the amazing opportunity to study abroad in Co. Kildare in 2012 and I took a semester's introduction to Gaeilge. One of the things that astounded me was the breadth of the accents! My prof from Connemara sounded different than my flatmate from Co. Kerry sounded different than my flatmate from Co. Donegal sounded different from my flatmate from Co. Louth sounded different from you guys! I've been making my way back (although, I sort of missed the mark and am currently in China) and this definitely helps! Thanks so much for this awesome resource. :D


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alderzan

    Thank you so much for putting in the effort to make this happen! I've always wanted to learn Irish to better connect with Ireland, and this definitely makes the language less intimidating.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/O_Fallon

    http://www.forvo.com/word/comhghairdeas/ besides abair.ie , here's another great site, I am using comhghairdeas as an example here.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dswynne

    Hi!

    I wanted to say that I was surprised to learn that Duolingo actually included Irish in its list of languages one can choose to learn. So, even though I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, California, where it would be more practical to continue to learn Spanish, beyond high school, I wanted to try to learn Irish just because. So far, it's been an interesting experience.

    If there is one thing I could suggest, it is to reorganize the format a bit. A key problem I have is that, while using the app version, I am automatically thrust into the lesson plan, where I have to guess what the correct answer is, so that I know what the answer is. When I first learn Spanish, each chapter had both a vocabulary and a sample dialogue. By knowing the context, I can better remember the words and phrases. At the very least, there should be a reference section of some kind, with a way to correctly pronounce the word, so that I can train my ears for the audio part of the lessons.

    Other than that, I am having fun learning. Since I don't think there are practical applications for Irish in my part of the word, learning Irish is a neat game for me, like doing Sudoku or a crossword page. Hopefully, I will complete the language tree while having fun doing so.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bredacm

    Hi, I too live in the San Francisco area. And there are many practical applications in SF - for the Irish language - particularly the United Irish Cunltutal Center where they have ongoing Irish language lessons and at least one weekend a year for a total immersion in the Irish language.

    I was born and raised in County Dublin and I learned Irish in school. In fact we did all our subjects in Irish except English literature. But, of course, I haven't spoken it in years even though I go home every year. Not very many people in Ireland speak it these days except in the Gaeltacht areas. So I find Duolingo a great way to refresh my language. And its amazing how much I have forgotten. So remember " Use it or lose it."


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/davo256

    Go n-éiri an t-adh leat, (Good luck to you)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dswynne

    Go rabh maith agat!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BobArrgh

    This is awesome! I am currently learning Irish from a teacher here in the USA, but I am filling in with extra learning wherever I can get it. These lessons are great. Go raibh maith agaibh!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/paddyobrien

    Please make the report function available on the iphone version! I've been doing the course on it since v.pres 3 and am currently on directions. It's been RIFE with mistakes, particularly mixed-up audio. Which is sooo frustrating trying to get through lessons and having to restart lessons when it's not your fault. Then not being able to report is further frustration and if we can't report things they can't get fixed.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

    We have already reported these audio mix ups and we are waiting for them to be fixed. As for being able to report on iOS, this isn't anything to do with us as that is the decision of the design and app teams.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/paddyobrien

    I've just sent feedback to iphone@duolingo.com


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/El_Devorador

    Thank you for all that you do for us, and all that you have helped us do for ourselves ! Bravo !


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

    Thanks for working hard to get this course out with an awesome human voice! I'd really appreciate it if you could get the voice to say every word and phrase in the exercises. People need to be able to repeat and imitate. It is kinesthetic learning. Can you get some of the engineers to work on it?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

    It’s an actual human voice in the Irish course, not a synthesized substitute, so Duolingo’s engineers won’t be working on it. That voice is not held in universal esteem for Irish.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

    I was thinking they could take snippets and phrases and insert them into every task as needed. There are audio programs that can do quite a lot and still achieve a natural-sounding product.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/boru4545

    I have noticed some learners are upset about the pronunciation of the lady on the Irish program. I am From County Cork. Though I have not lived in Ireland for many years I am pleased to say the lady's pronunciation is perfect in the Munster dialect.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

    Some of the “learners” are people with more than a passing familiarity with Irish phonology. I suggest that you review this discussion to discover why people are concerned with the audio; the inconsistent distinction between broad and slender consonants in the speaker’s recordings is an issue in all dialects of Irish.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

    I understand your point, but, you know, honestly, i'm not that worried about whether she is pronouncing everything perfectly. I know I won't. My accent is going to be so horrible, it will be amazing if anyone can understand me. But that's not what duolingo really does for you, is it? It's kind of the 80% solution. You learn enough that you can speak basic phrases. Maybe you speak about like a 4 or 5 year old would (tho with lenition and ecilpsis, I doubt I will get even that good!) The point is, you go ELSEWHERE to get really good at the language. so you have to fix some pronunciations, so you have to work on those g's before c's or bh before f's. or what is h after c? THIS program is infinitely better than NO program, which is what I had a few months ago. and it's free! I'd say that's a pretty amazing deal. I am quite pleased with it--bugs, errors, bad pronunciation, and all.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/smrch

    I'm sorry, but you're completely mistaken. Her pronunciation is way off.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mairead8894

    Is there any way of levelling up more quickly? I am a fluent Irish speaker who is stuck on level 7! I am delighted to finally find a site like this, and was even more delighted to find one with Gaeilge as an option.

    Some of the sentences/phrases are very "Englished" or they have Béarlachas - is there any way of altering that? Indeed, some more natural ways of phrasing the sentences are marked as incorrect answers, and this seems to be preventing me from progressing in the levels, as I don't want to have to go through all of the basics.

    É sin ráite, suíomh den scoth atá ann, agus tá fíor bród orm go bhfuil suim ag daoine ar fud an domhain sa ghaeilge. Teanga saibhir agus álainn agus lán le oidhreacht atá inti :)

    Beir bua léi agus go n-éirí libh ar bhur mbealach chun an líofacht a bhaint amach. Cuimhnigí i gcónaí --- "Cleachtadh a dhéanann máistreacht."

    Le meas, Mairéad


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

    Since you’re a fluent Irish speaker, I hope that you’ve been reporting errors as you’ve been finding them — it’s up to the course creators to fix the sentences/phrases, and your help in reporting the problems (which is the means by which they’re brought to the attention of the course creators) will certainly be welcome in making the course better for everyone.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mairead8894

    don't worry, I have :D i'd love to be able to contribute a bit more!


    [deactivated user]

      One recording of a word isn't enough. There should be a lesson near the start dedicated to pronunciation. I'm getting words in the audio-only exercises and when I get them wrong I look at the spelling and I think "how on earth is what I heard linked to what I see here?" Some help with the sound of Irish would be brilliant, particularly given the complexity of its sound system.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

      why did you guys get rid of the experience bar? It was nice being able to see my progress to the next level.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlbinoKiwi21

      Kia ora from New Zealand, and thank you so much for your work on the Irish course. It is so exciting to be able to learn Gaelic. I have wanted to for years and years, but I could never work it out from the books and tapes in our library. I especially welcome your stance on tolerance and compassion as we foreigners get our heads around the complexity of Irish history. It is awesome and challenging to be able to learn the language of my ancestors.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/exeisen

      Is the Irish course still in Beta? Just wondering if things were going to be added (such as displaying the gender of the words––which would be a HUGE help) and immersion.

      But thank you so much for a great course with clear grammatical explanations on a language that could otherwise be overwhelming :)


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/evnmegsmom

      I am so thrilled to finally have a program to learn Gaelige. I am fascinated by the culture and its history, arts, and talents. My dream is to go to Ireland some day to explore and immerse. I have only been there once passing through on a return trip from Italy, but we never got to leave the airport. :( As part of my learning I have been also taking diligent notes for study in between duolingo sessions which I feel is helping me learn this language as well. Thank you.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Linda156665

      Thank you Duolingo so much for offering Irish! It's a language that I've always wanted to learn, especially after visiting Ireland, but never had the opportunity to do until I discovered your app. I thought it would be difficult, but I'm almost finished with my first month and I'm amazed at how well I'm retaining what I've learned! One thing that I've noticed that I would like to make a suggestion on, though, and that's adding more audio, especially for new words when they're first introduced. I still have no idea how exactly the word "péitseog" and its plural form is pronounced after several days of seeing it! Also, I would really love to see the ability to repeat words/sentences to assess how well we are pronouncing them, like the Spanish course has.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

      Péitseog is pronounced something like “pyate shoag”, and its plural péitseoga is pronounced something like “pyate shoga”.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Linda156665

      Go raibh maith agat for the assist, Scillng! I thought that was how "péitseog/péitseoga " were pronounced, but without actually hearing it I wasn't 100% sure. Cheers!


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FreckleFACE21

      thx for the irish course! i'm learning irish, and I am irish!


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gwendalina93

      I really like the course. It would be great to have also pronunciation exercises, since it is the hardest part.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MonsieurLeBleu

      When good people take the time to create something like these courses, and offer them to the world for free it pains me to be critical. However I have to echo all the previous requests for more audio. It would be nice for it to be on par with the French and Spanish courses. The constant presence of audio availability will do more for the learning process than anything else - Thank you for all you do to create this course.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PopTartTastic

      I'm really looking forward to learning Irish here on Duolingo! I've already started a bit, and I haven't gotten far, but I definitely plan to. Good luck with the beta testing!


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BlueJaybird16

      Looking forward to this beta ! Im hoping through the mismatched audio vs answers stuff that I actually learn stuff rather than sit and get frustrated with Irish like I do every other day ! LC coming up and I need to learn things... so many essays and Càca Milis and poems ò mo dia xC


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AljoschaLi

      Go raibh míle agaibh don chúrsa! Bíonn mé an Ghaeilge ag foghlaim chúns aon bliain ach nach bhfuil mé in ann a labhair é. Ach sílim le chúrsa seo, beidh mé! :)


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/magickman

      I was away from my proper computer when the Irish course was first launched, but I've been checking it out on my phone - I'd just like to say go raibh maith agaibh to everyone involved for all the hard work you've put in. I hope the course goes from strength to strength. :)

      Go n-éirí an bóthar libh!


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GaTechGal

      Loving the course so far. May I suggest one thing. When you present a new word with the photo, could you also include an audio option so I can hear how the word is pronounced? It would come in helpful later in the lesson when suddenly I'm hearing the word for the first time.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/frpetera

      I found this a couple of days ago with all three pronunciations (as far as I can tell from Wikipedia - Ulster, Connacht, and Munster), as well as information on gender, declension, and genitive for each word: http://www.teanglann.ie/en/. You need to get the accents right, but it seems to be pretty good at suggesting the right word if you don't have them, at least when looking for pronunciation (in dictionary mode it seems to need things with all the right accents). Then again, you can look for pronunciation, find the word, and then simply click over to dictionary, so it tends to work pretty well in the end.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MickeyKiernan

      An audio option would be great.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FridayTheMonster

      I would be willing to donate towards having someone run pronunciations for the individual words if there is not someone willing to volunteer their time, & i imagine others would as well!


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tljordan88

      I would also be willing to do that. Just let us know somehow on the site if there is a way we could support your efforts to provide more audio (for each screen of each lesson, as in, say, the Spanish, lessons). This would be helpful, and worth the investment. YOUR SITE IS GREAT!


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Emersono

      I love the course so far, and the feeling that everything is so new and different! I wonder if at some point I will actually be able to figure out what Enya sings about, or if her Donegal dialect will be much of an obstacle for this to happen... I love the challenge of this language that is so wonderful and so difficult at the same time! Thanks for your time and efforts!


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RuthLawrence

      You can find the lyrics to many of her songs here, along with translations:

      http://www.celticlyricscorner.net/index.htm


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sarahc57x

      completely agree!


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/phlinabell88

      Would love this too.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MamaBug

      I too would love to hear the new words said.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/actsasgeek

      Compared to the other courses, I think this would be the single greatest improvement. You should hear the language as often as possible. Every time you click or touch an Irish word, you should hear it pronounced.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/coollittlealien

      I would also love to hear the word along with the pictures. I find that seeing it, reading it, and hearing it all at the same time helps me remember it. Just reading it, I don't know how it's pronounced, which causes me to have a much harder time retaining the word.


      [deactivated user]

        I would also like to see the word's gender, as it is important for declension and lenition.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JarodKerney

        Absolutely! i have yet to see anything in my lessons to this point that shows or explains it. i've had to buy some Irish grammar books and look on other website to try an figure it out. Having it in the lessons would be a huge help.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Siofra647552

        If you are using a website for a dictionary i'd recommend tearma.ie .


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FenwaynLizzie

        Yes, this would be hugely helpful!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Siofra647552

        To be completely honest, gender in irish is very complicated, it takes a long time to learn, i'm in my fourth year of going to a fully irish school and we havent learned it to its full extent. (Im going into 3rd year ) We have learned masculine and feminine but its not easy in any way.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Chloe611036

        Yeah, I think they should tell us the gender of the word before as I got quite confused


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gilroi

        yes! that's one of the major failings of the course that i've seen so far.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/A3DYS

        I'd like to hear the words too ! I am having a lot of trouble with the "write what you hear" exercises so I sometimes feel a little discouraged... Or maybe add a "Tips and notes" about phonetics ? Kind of like it was done with the vowels in the portal, that would be very helpful I think :)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/missfarin

        Yes, please please please! I was so excited to start this course, but I'm finding it much more difficult to remember words and how they're spelled and pronounced because the audio happens so sporadically throughout the lesson. I ended up dropping the course because I wasn't finding it as useful as the Italian, which makes me sad because I've been dying to learn Irish.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krazyceltickid

        Quick question, I've noticed as I've progress through the course that I don't seem to be experiencing the activities where my voice is being recorded like I was in the Spanish course. Is that bad luck, being so low on the tree, a limitation of Incubator courses or a limitation of no TTS? Regardless, I am having an amazing time not only with the course but with the community as well. Go raibh maith agaibh!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

        This voice recognition technology in not available (or at least, not on Duolingo) yet. The same goes for Danish. It is very complicated technology that may not be available for Irish for a long time (or ever). Heck, it is only in A/B testing for Portuguese and Dutch as of recently and Portuguese was released well over a year ago.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lhasan

        Great to have another language available. The more the merrier! I'm not too far into the Irish course yet, but so far it looks flawless.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ronanmcguire

        Thanks for creating the course!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Meli613

        I am really excited about learning Irish, but it is very hard for me to remember the words, the pronunciations and the spellings. Are you going to make a "words" section? I came on to give myself extra practice in German, I am learning it through Rosetta Stone. I speak Spanish and French. I took Spanish classes at Berlitz and through the University. I took French through Berlitz and Rosetta Stone. I didn't know that Rosetta Stone offered Irish until today. But anyway, will one be able to speak Irish when finishing this free course?


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lancet

        You won't be fluent in Irish from this course alone, but our aim is that your should be at a good intermediate level - able to read most things with the help of a dictionary, and able to have a basic conversation with someone patient!

        Duolingo seems to be rolling out a "words" section to its courses, starting with the full courses and moving on to the beta courses later. When we know, you'll know.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jennifer.Kirby

        I'm new to this and am really looking forward to get started. I always wanted to learn a new language and never had the time or the money, but this is great I can take it anywhere and work on it anytime I can. Love the mascot for Irish! :)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zeynapping

        I have been trying to learn irish but books i could find online were almost ancient and hard to read on pdf. I am so glad people brought irish to duo. there still missing spots but its still under construction so, acceptable. bless you!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lancet

        What areas seem to have the most important gaps? We'll prioritise them ;)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zeynapping

        naturally, audio. but im not gonna complain about it. just waiting for all words and pictures to get theirs!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/goldmaker86

        Thanks A LOT for this enormous opportunity! I fell down the chair when I figured out that Irish was among the available languages! I'll give it a great shot!! I've also seen among the proposed tongues the Dothraki! LOL I dream to be a Khal one day!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jakimann

        I also just wanted to say thank you SO much for this course! Irish/Gaelic courses are pretty hard to find, so this is just fantastic!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JaimeCoulson

        Go raibh maith agaibh! I'm a beginner and have begun learning Irish this week. I've looked for other Irish courses online but haven't had much luck. This is by far the most beautiful and informative course I've come across. The instructions are clear and the activities are really helping the language to stick. I love that I can take "practice" tests to keep my skills up! Thanks so much!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ssvenkata

        I am a grad student reading Flann O'Brien in his original Irish, so I took an intensive month-long course in Irish in Co. Donegal two years ago. While my knowledge of Irish is limited, it's actually pretty hard to detect what words are what at the beginning level. Donegal Irish is an idiomatic form of Ulster Irish, so I can understand it when people speak Irish where the stress is at the beginning of the word, or at the end (like in Co. Cork), but the lack of distinct stress patterns on any syllables makes it really difficult to hear and type back a correct response. Not to mention that the pronunciation of words starting with 'd' are pronounced very oddly. I know words like 'dhá' are pronounced like 'ghá,' but not all words beginning with 'd' have that /g/ sound - is that something you are going to fix?


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/brianmurray

        Hi Ssvenkata... just to let you know, I am Irish and studied the Irish language in school for many years but have since lost most of "mo theanga féin" (my own language). Recently I decided to start afresh and, amongst other things, started to listen Irish language radio (Raidió na Gaeltachta). I found that within a month or so you tend to get used to all the different manners of pronunciation because of the dialects...

        You can access that here: http://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=17%3A%2D2%3A1742%3A03%2D10%2D2014%3A

        I would suggest listening back to some "Cormac ag a Cúig" broadcasts which is a current affairs / news programme broadcast every day at 5pm hosted by Cormac - hence Cormac ag a Cúig :)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scribhneior

        Thank you all for getting this course up and off the ground so quickly. It has been well worth the wait!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Real_Name

        Thank you, Duolingo Irish Course Creators. I play an old Irish Harp, and, now that I've found you, perhaps I'll sing some of the Irish Tunes someday. . . in Irish!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ryiansmama

        I am so glad Irish is on here. i love this language and always wanted to learn this. its so beautiful and its fun to learn. Thank you Doulingo!!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kath2474

        Go raibh maith agaibh! Thank you so much for adding the Irish course to Duolingo. My grandma spoke Irish, and it is so cool to finally be able to start learning it too. I just love Duolingo! Thank you again, Kathleen in New York, USA


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TonyDiNardo

        Just started, and so far I'm liking the program. I know at least one other person has said this, but I very much appreciate that the lessons actually discuss the grammar of Irish. My basis in linguistics comes from 5 years of studying Latin, and so I prefer the method generally used for that, which is to teach the conjugations and declensions, teach the grammar, so that you can learn to plug in any word correctly. I was never able to do the Rosetta Stone/Berlitz style of simply learning how to say certain phrases, and hoping at some point you actually picked up how to speak the language. So I appreciate the discussion of verb conjugation, and as you move forward, I hope the noun declensions are also discussed in the lessons.

        I've only two notes on the course:

        1) It would be nice if there were a lesson in the basics section on how to pronounce Irish. Irish has fairly complex rules of spelling and pronunciation, and while some people might like to simply pick it up as they go around, I imagine there are still other people, like me, who would appreciate at least a basic intro to the rules of Irish pronunciation.

        2) Each lesson should have a list of the new words that are going to appear in the exercises, their meanings, and, ideally, an audio pronunciation. This would be helpful for people who would like to make flashcards or drill on the new vocabulary a bit before doing the exercise.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Arditizza

        I appreciate your great comment. I am finding the Irish course tantalizing and frustrating all at once, because there is not enough audio. I also feel I am WAY too high a level for what I actually have learned - which feels like fairly little - and not the core, basic stuff I need to really learn a language, i.e. everything you listed here. I can't spell or pronounce Irish. Other users have kindly pointed us to outside resources, and some are okay, but the Wikipedia entry on Irish verb conjugations is of limited use without any pronunciation guide or audio links, in my opinion. For me, the music of a language also helps to teach the rules and ways of the tongue and its logic. I hope hope hope the Irish creators, to whom I am grateful, (and I am sure creating this course is a ton of hard work,) will address these issues so that we who are fired up to learn Irish can REALLY learn it.

        So as you said, please, please Irish creators,

        1. More audio
        2. Rules of spelling and pronunciation - Irish is nothing like English!

        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

        In the interim, you can try abair.ie for audio, and if you understand the International Phonetic Alphabet, you can find spelling/pronunciation rules at Wikipedia.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/murphy_spud

        Great course. Thank you. Have you any indication when it will be released on Android?


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/miha300

        This is a difficult language


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KrisAdams86

        The Duo mascot is so cute! I am so glad to be given the opportunity to learn this language and hope I will be given the opportunity to visit the country in the the future :)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IsMiseAnPol

        A friend of mine is learning Irish and downloaded this to his phone. However, having seen it in action, there are some things I think could be improved. For one thing, none of the initial lesson information you get on the website is visible when you use this on a phone. So for a total beginner who is using his phone, it's not great. Is there a way to incorporate the initial information into the app? Also, is there a way to contribute to the improvement of phrases etc as a native speaker? I would be happy to help.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

        1) Putting the tips and notes on the app is all down to the app team's choice. Personally, I'd like to have them on the app because they are very helpful but we'll just have to wait and see if the app team adds them. 2) You can apply to contribute to the course here and you may be chosen if we are looking for some extra help and you have what we're looking for. Other than that, you can help out in the forums or just run through the course and report any mistakes.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IsMiseAnPol

        Go raibh maith agat :)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NikhilK3

        Great way to learn Irish indeed. I don't know how come I feel going through Irish basic exercises ( skills and activities ) so easily. I have tried Irish a bit on other sites. But Duolingo's approach is awesome for such a different language


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/djnjc

        Thank you SO much for this Irish course. As an American living in Ireland, this is such an amazing tool. I could not afford proper classes and Rosetta Stone was too expensive as well, thanks to Duolingo for making this happen, much appreciated!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RYANinHD_87

        I would absolutely love to see a pronunciation guide in the Notes section of one of the Basics courses. Sometimes the speaker can be a little hard to understand and Irish pronunciation can be really strange to an English speaker, particularly the slender and broad vowels, and the "th" and "gh" sounds.

        Also, the font you're using makes it very difficult to see the difference between í and i. Anything you can do to make the accent more pronounced?

        Thanks for a great app!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kgourgues

        Thank you for putting so much time and effort into this coarse! I was thrilled to find it here. And I'm really enjoying it! I have many Irish friends who have inspired me to take this on. It is not an easy language by any means. But I'm finding it very doable the way you have presented it. Thanks again.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SamyPrang

        I absolutely love this course :) You did an amazing job :) Maybe you could add a vocabulary/ word list with all the words you've learned so far :)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

        We'd love to have one like German and French have, but this is down to the technical team at Duolingo, not us :) We can be hopeful though!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/timoth.gher

        Been playing with The Beginners' level, and discovering QUICKLY how word order, ( Grammar ) and Plural Spellings differ. * some affected with Lenitions and Eclipsed forms. = To me, it's a dream come true !!! Even though in Real Life, I might not agree with someone's opinions...it's deeply empowering to build skill levels !


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ColinE412185

        I just think it's amazing that you created all this learning content for free. Bualadh bos, agus go raibh maith agat.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/exeisen

        Hi, I just took one of the Irish practice quizzes you can get with lingots––it told me my score at the end, but it didn't really give me anything beyond that. I thought it would at least show me the right answers, or maybe diagnose my weakest skills. Is there a way to improve the quiz function so that it gives usable feedback? I don't know how the quizzes on the other languages are.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

        I've just taken that quiz as well, and had the same problem. It has made me reluctant to take a test in another language since I don't want to spend 20 lingots on a French quiz if I get as little feedback again. I mean, it's useful information, and you can track your progress, but as it stands it is a fairly blunt tool.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cait48

        There are a couple of free tests you can take online. You'll have to analyze them yourself or with the help of a more advanced student. I mean, you may not be able to recognize the reason you missed a question if it's a grammar topic you haven't covered yet.

        http://www.transparent.com/learn-irish/proficiency-test.html http://ranganna.com/Tastail.aspx?id=1&Lang=en

        Neither site will send you spam or anything, even though the tests are supposed to help you pick your level in the site's online classes. There's no pressure to sign up.

        Neither test includes any oral/aural questions, as I recall, but the Ranganna.com one was particularly useful to me because it showed pretty clearly where my knowledge ended and thus gave me a good direction for continuing study. I can also recommend the Ranganna.com classes for anyone learning on his/her own.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/exeisen

        Thank you! These tests are really helpful.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/T.Spencer

        I have always wanted to learn Irish; most of my heritage is Irish, and I want to honor that part of who I am. Being able to speak Irish in general is awesome! Keep up the great work guys, I hope you continue to be motivated to diversify us with your language! :)


        [deactivated user]

          I would like the "Words" and "Flashcards" to be enabled, as well as more audio. I realize that there are a lot of words/sentences, but if you just do a few each day, or maybe sit down for an hour or two once a week, eventually they will all have audio. It's a lot of work (which is why I suggest breaking it into small pieces), but it would be extremely helpful for language learners.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

          The course creators are not the ones who make the audio recordings.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

          That's helpful to know. Thank you


          [deactivated user]

            They said it's a real person for the Irish audio course. The other courses have some sort of bot.


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

            Yes, a real person was recorded for the Irish course; that person is not one of the course creators, and the course creators were not involved in either selecting or recording that person.


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

            And the person does a very good job. Her accent seems to be somewhat anglo-influenced, but that is not an unrealistic thing in the twentyfirst century. I have cousins who speak fluent Irish in a New York accent. If you watch TG4 you'll realise how typical non traditional accents are.

            But it is a real relief to have a real voice - let's face it, I'd rather have a real Irish speaker with a slight English accent than a bot. Or even a nostalgic accent, no matter how pure, which is increasingly uncommon. There is nothing wrong with language changing. It happens, and languages survive. The Anglo Saxons were appalled by the introduction of words such as pork and beef - they thought it was the end of their language.

            Whoever they hired for this, she has a real rhythm which the best robot couldn't have, and she obviously did it for the love of the language. Personally, I am really grateful for that. As for hard and soft vowels, we can work the out.


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

            And the person does a very good job.

            Others disagree with that assessment.


            [deactivated user]

              I am not complaining that they use a real voice; I prefer a real person to a robotic one. I just wish there were more recordings because they would be helpful to beginners. They said each word is recorded at least once, but what if you forget how a word is pronounced?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TatianaBeastmode

              I'm so excited about dabbling in this, my ancestral language (one of them). I won't be able to do more than dabble for a while, but it's really cool to have the opportunity to learn a non Indoeuropean language like this! Thanks for all your hard work!


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

              Irish is an Indo-European language.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TatianaBeastmode

              Is it? I thought Celtic languages weren't Indoeuropean. My mistake!


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/esalesky

              I agree with everyone so far who was asked for more audio. It is much less audio practice than other courses. Because you only hear audio in certain sentences, you can see a word several times in other exercises before you finally hear it; then you're not just learning how it sounds, you're unlearning the pronunciation you assumed and heard in your head the first several times.

              If every word is in a sentence, those audio files can be trimmed to just that word, and that could be used for the flashcards, mouse-overs, etc. This would be incredibly helpful. The lack of much audio is what has kept me from working on my Irish tree so far.

              I'm very excited about this course, and very grateful to Team Irish for everything so far, but this would be a huge help!


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mishy7

              There are a lot of comments, so I don't know if anybody has mentioned this, but would it be possible to have some of the questions/activities be us speaking like there are in other courses? I swear it was like that when I started the Irish course, but I may be confusing it with another program. I find it helpful to be able interact with a language in all ways including me speaking it myself.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IanCarrigan

              Really impressed by the course and quality of audio! Thanks for all the work!


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ilenetgallo

              I lived in Ireland and learned Irish. It is great to refresh my Irish and learn more.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KeithBrown11

              I work at a restaurant in New York City and I get quite a few Irish customers. It's really nice to be able to say "Conas ata do bia?" or "Go raibh maith agat; go n-eiri an bothar leat!" and see their faces light up when I speak Gaelige. We inevitably get into a conversation about why I'm learning to speak Gaelige (my ancestors are from Ireland and I'm trying to get closer to my heritage) and it always makes for good conversation. I guess what I'm trying to say is thanks for creating such a great course! I love it!


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hagawatawat

              "I'm a bean! Fear me!" - gaelic


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OliverCasserley

              I just finished my tree 10 minutes ago, can anybody advise as to what to do next. Go raibh maith agaibh go léir. Mo bhuiochas oraibh.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/seekerjl

              I love Irish and that Duolingo has gotten a course for it


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Josh_sl

              Just a suggestion , I think the stories feature would be a great addition to the Irish course.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sariah_Lee

              I understand that not all sentences have audio, but can individual words please have audio? Or expand the sentence database? And can we hear the words more than once even if we can’t have the full sentence? Sometimes I go to learn a new lesson and I can’t remember how to pronounce a word that I’ve already learned, but it has no audio so I can’t re-learn the pronunciation.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/_fraoch

              "Our Irish course will grow from just a language course to a full learning experience where everyone can learn and enjoy Ireland in all its beauty (through the power of Gaeilge)."

              My dad and his family are from Ireland, but after my parents divorced, I didn't see much of them. I didn't even know that the Irish had their own language until I was in middle school and a friend told me. I was so confused because my dad spoke fluent English. haha Suffice to say, I didn't know anything about Ireland and had no interest in learning it.

              In my 30s, I started using duolingo to learn Spanish. I stumbled across the Irish course and that became a gateway drug into Irish culture and history. I've now been obsessively learning about Ireland for over a year and I'm madly in love with it. So there's that. :)


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CampNowhere

              I don't know if this is part of any other Duolingo course, but I would really like some basic reading exercises instead of just sentences. When I was studying Old Norse, it really helped for a chapter to introduce a concept, add vocabulary, and then have actual text to be analyzed.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlphaCentauri

              Having "Tips" for each section to explain sounds/grammar/concepts being introduced in that section would help. Things could be spread over several sections to be less overwhelming. (See the way Pinyin transliteration is introduced in the Chinese course.) There's great material in these pinned discussions, but they are not available at all to those using the mobile app.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/evnmegsmom

              Tips are available for Scottish Gaelic and Welsh for every topic in the tree, which I print out and keep as a reference (using Printer Friendly app on my computer). It would be nice to have this for Irish as well. Also, the Scottish Gaelic and Welsh apps have the pronunciation of individual words when you click on each (although there is a lag at times, and you can't click on them too fast or they won't be pronounced). I like this and it would be helpful in Irish, as well. Welsh also has a slow pronunciation feature for listening prompts, that Irish and Scottish Gaelic do not. This would be nice to have also.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/underwood.jones

              I'm noticing the "hover" translation does not always work, as well as some words showing up with the "new" highlighting that are not new, and some showing up not as new, that in fact are, I am guessing it's a natural beta glitch but I am not sure if I should report or not on these?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Brid-Eilis

              Report anything that doesn't look right.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Stronzia

              I noticed a Typo on explanation of "Basic 2" lesson: table second conjugation, column "Pronouns", second row. "Tú/Sé/Sí/Sibh/Sibh" Sibh is reapated instead of Said.

              good work!


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/irockz707

              What dialect is this based on?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GertWall

              Thank you so much!!!


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Guitardude2000

              Excited to learn but Irish isn't on the Duo app. Is this because it is still in Beta?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gjohn95

              Will we get verb conjugation charts in the near future?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fr224

              So far, Irish is a great course, and I am very happy to have this opportunity. Go raibh maith agaibh!

              I haven't gotten that far, so I only have one error to report: sometimes the present form a verb is used and if you translate it as "is [insert verb here]ing", it thinks it's wrong and will only accept [same verb]s.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

              This isn't an error. You see, in Irish, we distinguish between the two with two distinct forms of the verb, the one which is thought first is the present habitual (eg. Ithim - I eat) This is used to describe a habit or an event that happens regularly (eg. I eat every day). The other form is made using the Verbal Noun in Irish. This is pretty unusual and is taught later in the tree. (eg. Táim ag ithe - I am eating)


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rafeind

              Which means that I now know of three languages that do: Irish English and Icelandic.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/O_Fallon

              thought later or taught later :) your Irish accent is showing :)


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MampaeyGianni

              Thank you very much for this course, I always found Irish one of the most interesting and fascinating languages. Now I can learn to write and to communicate with people in Irish.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LearnAndEducate

              I'd love to go to view the cliffs of Moher in real some day. <3 <3


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pnararui

              Thank you very much! Long time searching for a good place to learn Irish. A spanish girl thank you all.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/seanwalter4

              Go raibh maith agat for the Android app


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Uncoarticle

              Thank you for the course! I just found Duolingo this summer and started using it for spanish since this is my first year of high school and I am in the International Baccalaureate program. (Which requires four years of a foreign language) It has been really helpful, but when my friend told me they added Irish I got extreeeemly excited because I have been really interested in Ireland since a lot of my family comes from that area and I have this fantasy of maybe going to college somewhere over there >:? Anyway I just wanted to say this is really cool and I am really excited so thank you!!!


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

              I noticed a while ago that in the animals lesson, They are ducks is translated "is lachan iad" but ducks is translated "lachain." I made a comment at the time in the lesson, but it's still that way so i guess that's how it's supposed to be... but why??


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

              "Lachan" is the genitive of "ducks"...this is a mistake (it should've been "lachain" in the animals skill), but we can't fix it right now.

              So, to clarify:

              They are ducks --> Is lachain iad


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Benmalone142

              I can notice alot of loop holes but it will help me with my junior cert:P


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LunarRaevyn

              I've only just begun with my Irish course, and I'm so excited! A large part of my background is Irish, and I think it's a wonderful language.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

              I have a question about questions. For the English words what, what time, what place, how, and how many/how much, there are multiple Irish words. How do I know which to use in any particular sentence?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

              Which Irish question words have you observed so far? How does your list compare with those shown here?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

              just the ones in the questions lesson (a few lessons after the first check point). that wiki has some of the same words, but is missing some and has others not in duo lingo. An example would be cad and ceard. they are both what, but when do I use each of them? the wiki doesn't seem to explain it either.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

              Cad is more popular in Munster, and céard is more popular in Connacht. Generally, think of céard as + rud (“what” in the sense of “which thing”). A fuller explanation of the Irish question words can be found here.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ArnoFelden

              Thanks for the course, guys! I'm using it, and I am making my slow way up haha \o/


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

              I have another question about questions. I am confused as to when to use a, e, bhfuil, and ata. what does she have = cad ata aici. does she have a dog? = an bhfuil madra aici. what is your question = cad e do cheist. I can't see the logic in when one is used rather than another. is there some rule to explain it?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

              The question Cad é do cheist? uses an implied copula — its literal translation is “What it your question?”, and its semi-literal meaning is “What is it, your question?”. Its answer would be in the form of an identifying copular sentence. This question form would be used for “What is … ?” questions where the answer would use the copula — when the answer would be an identification or a classification.

              The question Cad atá aici? uses atá, the direct relative form of , which is a combination of the relative pronoun a and . The question’s literal translation is “What that-is at-her?”, with “that” in the English relative pronoun sense. The question’s semi-literal meaning is thus “What is it that is at her?” This question form would be used for “What is … ?” questions when the answer would not use the copula — when the answer would be neither an identification nor a classification.

              The question An bhfuil madra aici? uses fuil, the dependent form of . (It’s called that because its use is dependent upon a verbal particle such as an ; because it follows the verbal particle an, fuil becomes eclipsed — thus bhfuil.) This question form would have an affirmation or negation as an answer, since the verb in the question is .


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

              OK thanks so much for the answer. I think I understand. That's way more grammar than I know even in English heh. At least I can see the pattern now--the rest will fall into place with practice.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

              I am trying to apply the above logic to the practice sessions. I came across this sentence: Where are the boys? based on the above, the answer should be either Ca e or Ca ata. Certainly not Ca bhfuil, since it's not a yes or no question. however, the correct answer is apparently Cá bhfuil na buachaillí. i don't get it.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

              My previous reply was focused on explaining the logic of your sample questions. Most of the Irish interrogative words contain some form of implied copula, so the information in my previous reply won’t always be applicable. In the case of , it elides over a, the indirect relative particle, so Cá bhfuil na buachaillí? should be understood as something like Cá hait a bhfuil na buachaillí? — “In which place are the boys?”. It’s not a yes/no question, despite the presence of fuil, because of the indirect relative clause; just as its English equivalent is not a yes/no question, despite the presence of “are”.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

              sigh.... thanks again for the explanation. I was a science major. I took the required freshman English and didn't let the door to the liberal arts building hit me in the rear as I left. I do well enough with English (tho I am going to have to crack open "The Little Brown Handbook" to figure out what all those parts of speech are)--Irish grammar is going to kill me lol


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoeyH

              I've just unceremoniously ditched Spanish in my excitement over Irish. I love a challenge and boy is this one. I'm supplementing the Duolingo course with Nancy Stenson's Basic Irish grammar, as well as Rosetta Stone for extra vocabulary and, crucially, pronunciation. I also hope eventually to find a tutor I can work with over Skype. This is a really daunting language but already I find it fascinating, even if mostly I've just repeated Basics 1 and 2 over and over to hammer them home. :-)


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

              oh don't worry. the course will do the hammering for you. I think I still hear bean agus fear in my nightmares hahaha. seriously tho, its safe to move on. those words are repeated so much throughout every other lesson, you won't forget them


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

              I'm going thru the first lesson in prepositions. from everything I have seen so far, the sentence construction for must is Ta (what must be done) pronoun. Ta Bron ort for example. Except with walk. She must walk. Ta uirthi siul. is that a mistake or is it really the order? if it is the right order, why?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

              Tá brón ort. means “You are sorry.” (its literal translation is “Is sorrow on-you.”), so I’m not sure how “must” is involved in this sentence.

              Tá uirthi siúl. does mean “She must walk.” (its literal translation is “Is on-her to-walk.”), and that is the correct construction. In this sentence, siúl is a verbal noun that is roughly equivalent to an English infinitive. Irish doesn’t have many modal verbs like “must”, so idiomatic expressions like the one in this sentence are used instead. There are several idioms to choose from for “must”, but the one in this sentence is probably the simplest of them.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

              ok but why is the pronoun the last word in the first example but the second word in the second example?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

              In Irish, word order is generally verb, subject, object. In the first sentence, brón is the subject and ort contains the object. The second sentence doesn’t have a subject, but the object in uirthi functions as a “virtual” subject; since the verbal noun siúl doesn’t take its own object in this sentence, it follows uirthi.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mairead8894

              I believe it's related to the expression of emotion. So you always have emotion "on you" - tá brón/áthas/ríméad/pé rud eile ORM. So for she must walk - it's tá uirthi siúl because the construction is unrelated to emotion m.s. tá uirthi rith, tá orm m'obair bhaile a dhéanamh - to my mind it's a little like the subjunctive in French - "I must"


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimpsonMark

              The audio is even more essential for this course because, as I've learned over the years, there is absolutely no relationship between how a Celtic language is written and how it is pronounced. A fact I've used more than once when people have criticized my pronunciation of Maori. Thanks for the Irish course (now all we need is Welsh, Scots, Manx, Cornish and Breton - are you listening, Duolingo?). Kia Kaha!


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

              There certainly is a relationship between how Irish is written and how it’s pronounced — it’s simply a different relationship to that between how English is written and how it’s pronounced.


              [deactivated user]

                Just saying, Sticky? From the books by Trenton Lee?(Sorry,I can't spell his last name.) But how could you?!?!?!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tylerr580

                thank you all for this course I have irish roots and eventually i want to go to ireland and visit possibly stay and ive always wanted to learn the language but most places charge and I really dont have the money or time to put into going to classes its really awesome of you to do this and i actually enjoy learning when i get a chance.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SeaininMC

                Cé mhéid leibhéal sa chúrsa Gaeilge? (How many levels are in the Irish course?)


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

                You mean...like...XP levels? 25, just like all the other courses :D


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SeaininMC

                Tá sé sin dochréidte! An bhfuil éinne ag leibhéal 25? Ní fiú tusa? That's unbelievable! Is anyone at level 25? Not even you?

                How do I know my accumulated XP total, and what point level is associated with what level in the course? I found that 30,000 XPs are required to get to level 25, but can't find a way to see how my overall point level is progressing, other than by the course level I'm in.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

                Nílim ag an leibhéal sin fós, ach bhí "Moon1002".

                You cannot see your total XP for an individual language here on the site, but you can on the app. Then, look here to see how much is required for each level :)


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SeaininMC

                Sular thuig mé cén chaoi a oibríonn an cúrsa, cheap mé gur léirigh an leibhéal do chumas sa theanga. Tuigim anois is comhartha é cá mhéad ama a chaitheann tú ar an gcúrsa. Ní chuireann sé ionadh orm nach bhfuil tú ag leibhéal níos airde. Chríochnaigh mé an crann inniu agus níl mé ach leibhéal a dó dhéag. Beidh sé deacair dul chun cinn go tapa (de réir na leibhéal, ar aon nós). Tá mé ag súil go mór leis na hacmhainní atá romhainn (go háirithe an tumadh). Go raibh míle maith agat agus ag an bhfoireann iomlán.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ballygawley

                There is one comment, where you can see your progress: go down 5 rows and click duocheck. (make sure to donate a lingot to the guy who made it ;-) https://www.duolingo.com/comment/6155294


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

                how are we supposed to earn lingots now? Other than mastering some new lesson or making a new level, there doesn't seem to be any way to earn them. I used to get a lot just doing my daily practices. Since i no longer have hearts to not lose, i don't earn lingots for not losing them. It would be nice to earn lingots again.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/galaxyrocker

                That's a Duolingo issue, not an Irish one. If you use mobile, though, I still believe it has hearts.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                Every tenth consecutive day in your streak you’ll receive (count of days in the streak ÷ 10) lingots.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

                from the prepositions tips: Tá ar Phól éisteacht Paul must listen why is it ar instead of air?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PaulCulloty

                The sentence literally translates as "It is on (ar) Paul to listen", so "ar" is a preposition, and the sentence is a set form for all persons.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Foosball2

                Howya, love the course, being an Irishman abroad not having grown up in Eire I'm stoked I can learn the language! I would suggest from having used the other languages that a few more audio examples with sentences would help a heap. My friends and family have noticed greater improvements in other languages as a result of the audio examples. Keep up the good work!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Talbotmews

                Thank you for this wonderful course. I have tried others but this one is by far the best and I can trust the pronunciations. Love it and thank you.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Wolee

                I just started the course but I'm loving it so far. Congratulations and go raibh maith agaibh to team Irish!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LauraBaiolini

                Thank you very much!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/guha

                I really, genuinely want to do this Irish course and complete it.

                But I can't do it without the audio. It's just not possible because the pronunciation is just so completely different from English.

                You said in your post that every word has a recording to it, so that we are guaranteed to learn each word. This is completely misleading because very often when learning on this website I will see a word used in a sentence, rather than see the word by itself where I can actually hear the audio. So I will be given 10 or so sentences using a new word but never once learn how to pronounce it because there is no audio involved.

                It's far too frustrating to deal with, so it makes me not want to learn the Irish language through this website and instead just focus on all of the other ones that I'm learning at the moment.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/galaxyrocker

                Have you tried using (breis.)focloir.ie? They have quite a few words with audio recorded by native speakers. You can also try Forvo.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gpgallagher

                I have been doing Irish (and German) on the app, and I realize today looking at the website that I have missed crucial information. I didn't understand why there was so little audio compared to German, for example. Now I understand that this is a work-in-progress (as we all are!) and I will patiently await new developments. In the meantime thank you for adding Irish to Duolingo, and thank you for Duolingo!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ProinsiasOFoghlu

                I am really enjoying the course, I find I can easily spend 10 to 20 minutes every day practising and learning new words. If there is anyone in Tralee or Kerry doing the course don't hesitate to give me a shout.

                Go raibh maith agat Duolingo!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ximeniux90

                love irish !!!!!!!!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mo7390

                I am very excited to be learning Irish with my daughter, while I am here I am also refreshing my Spanish and in the Spanish lesson there is a speaking part so you can practice the pronunciation of the words it would be helpful if we could do that in the Irish course as well!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PSBoy100

                I'd like to know how to tak courses away.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

                I have a question about pronunciation. Please tell me if this is "correct" (based on standard Irish) and, more importantly, why. Maith is pronounced may. Per the lesson on phrases, mhaith in maidin mhaith is pronounced vay. but per the lesson on dates/time mhaith in Oíche mhaith is pronounced way. When i put maidin mhaith and oiche mhaith in abair.ie, both sound like way. should they both be way? Is it a broad sound because the mh is followed by a? thanks


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/galaxyrocker

                The biggest issue with the course is the pronunciation. The speaker, when actually correct (which is very seldom), never consistently uses the same dialect. That's the issue with it between <mh> as /v/ and <mh> as /w/. The /v/ pronunciation is used in Munster.

                Also, I don't think I've heard it as "way"... And, you're better off checking breis.focloir.ie for pronunciation samples. They're actual natives, not bad voice artists or TTS.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

                Nice website. I didn't have that one bookmarked already. Thanks for the tip. The number of words seems a little limited, but you're right--it's way better than abair. Is connacht dialect the one closest to what this app is aiming for? That guy pronounces mhaith more like waa, but he pronounces oiche with a bit of a ch sound whereas the other two don't. It just sounds like eehey.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/galaxyrocker

                This couse is actually aiming for Munster - but fails completely with the audio portion.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoySparkes

                I would pronounce maith as a short "mah". I would tend to pronounce it "wah" with a séimhiú (mhaith). However in Munster (the south) mhaith would be pronounced as "vah". In Ulster (the north) it may be pronounced as "my". The dialects are very different everywhere and pronunciation can vary so I understand the difficulty, especially for a person who has not been exposed to the language before at all. I hope this helps.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gweedore

                I love this course, i'm spanish and i speak a bit of english but i enjoy learning Irish because I Love Ireland, especially Donegal county (my favorite place in the world). Go raibh maith agat !. Slán go foill !! David.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/suse1070

                Good luck with it. I'm Irish, but find every single other language I've ever tried easier, but I may get to do the irish course, next year maybe! It's great that it's there waiting.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/samuelalopes

                I'm living to leran many languages....


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SPARKLEZkgirl

                I was wondering, is the name Duolingo Irish or something? I thought it would be pretty cool, considering thousands of people study Irish.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ProinsiasOFoghlu

                I think in Irish it would be Dáthangach!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jimliamoc

                Thank you! Your hard work putting this course together is much appreciated.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gingervampqueen

                I'd also like to make the suggestion that there should be a way to go back and forth between the languages you're studying with just a drop down list, instead of having to go all the way into the settings. It would make it a lot easier, especially for those who wish to learn multiple languages at once.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gpgallagher

                I am usually using the mobile app, and it is very quick and easy to switch between my three languages. (Click upper left hand line icon and your languages pop up.) But on the app there are no notes, grammar, or any assistance. I would like to see a link on the app to connect with the website grammar notes.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/neopkwaii

                Actually! on complete accident, I pulled the same menu while in a session (lesson?) and it brought up all the notes that are on the computer version. Yes, it's a phone screen so more difficult to read-but I did find them once....


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gingervampqueen

                I found a way to switch between languages easily on the computer today. I don't know how the app works though.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dasi_

                I really love this course. I have one question though--some words have audio in some places but not others. I know this is beta so I'm trying to figure out if this is a bug or not. Just going on my supposition that if a word has recorded audio then in works in all places where audio would normally be heard. If that is the case then I'm reporting that some words already recorded are not playing as they should :).

                Thanks for all the work you've put into this. I can't wait to hear more.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

                In our course, audio is recorded by a real human (we'll be replacing the current voice soon) so only certain sentences have audio. That being said, each word is included in at least one recording. So, no this is not a bug...it's just some sentences don't have a recording (i.e. please don't report it :D)

                (P.S. We are no longer in beta :P)


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gpgallagher

                What does this mean: alpha and beta?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

                In terms of Duolingo:

                Alpha: Duolingo doesnt use this term when it comes to courses. They say "Phase 1". This is when a course is being developed by contributors in the Incubator but cannot be used by the general public. (e.g. Hebrew, Vietnamese, Norwegian, Esperanto, Yiddish, Greek, Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, Romanian, and Hungarian for English speakers.

                Beta (also called Phase 2): This is when the course is released and is open to everyone. The course may not be stable, may have bugs and have a lot of missing translations. (e.g. Turkish for English speakers, English for Arabic speakers)

                Phase 3: This is when the course has graduated from beta. It is stable, all/most bugs have been fixed and a large amount of translations have been added. It has consistently low report numbers. It is basically performing as well as a course Duoligno made themselves :) (e.g. Irish, Dutch, Danish and Swedish for English speakers)


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KajiraPumpkin

                No matter how many times I take the refresher course, my plurals won't go golden. It's driving my OCD insane!!!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/deirdre.walsh

                I love the course, but can someone please change the pronunciation of the word 'dinnéar' - it's driving me crazy!! :-/


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Suzneval

                LOL! You and me both, but not nearly as much as "agoot" for agat and "nu" for no (o fada). I absolutely love this course - it's as good as anything I have paid for - but some of the pronunciations make me cringe. Then again, I learned Ulster dialect, so it's REALLY off sometimes! :)


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RuskyJesusChick

                I've always had a fascination to anything Irish and when I saw that you guys had Irish I was thrilled! Thanks to all that put it together!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheRCPanda

                I love the course! I am young (first year of secondary school) and I am using this course to help me revise for my Irish exams at the end of the year, and even though I am not the most active in it, it has helped me get a better understanding of some things I didn't know before!

                Thank you to the Irish course contributors, and the Duolingo guys, you're awesome :) <3

                P.S. If you think that picture of the Cliffs of Moher is nice, you should check it out in person, it's beautiful ;)


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CaitrinMcCormick

                I am finding that some of my answers are counted as incorrect because I do not have the dipthong in my font. (for me) Is there any way around this?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/johnklepac

                I've heard the voice is exceptionally poor, especially with regard to the slender-broad distinction. (This isn't the speaker's fault; apparently she comes from a region of the nation where this distinction is handled weirdly. Nevertheless, it's not appropriate for a course in standard Irish.) To any native or fluent speakers, how well can we expect to be understood using Duolingo pronunciation? Is it really that much of an impediment? Will it be obvious to the native populace that this is where we learned it?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

                I know that there is a new urban dialect of Irish, from children who grow up bilingual because their anglophonic parents send them to schools where everything is taught in Irish - when they start school at five they know hardly (if any) Irish, but given that all the lessons are taught in Irish they soon pick it up. (I love that the parents want their children to regain the language they have lost.) There is a whole new vocabulary of youthslang and geek culture in the Irish language from these communities, Tumblr and internet speak ('tá mé ag dul leis an bad sin!' I think it goes, and other expressions like it.)

                Anyway, these kids are clearly fluent, but apparently the accent has changed a lot. I'm wondering if this is where the speaker learned her Irish? (And if I still lived in Ireland I would have moved to the right area for my son to attend such a gaelscoil. Apparently they have far better results across the board in national exams - bilingual learning across the world apparently boosts academic performance. Same thing happens in Welsh schools, apparently.)


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/irishblue1

                I'm doing the Irish course on my iPhone and have some comments. The course, while great, should concentrate on words that might actually be used in a conversation. E.g. Elephant is not likely to come into any conversation unless one is at a zoo or something! I cannot understand why it would arise 6 or more time in one lesson. Monkey is another word like that. For words that are similar in Irish and English such as these and cat, their use should be reduced, especially in word match tests.

                When you pick word to start a sentence, I suggest that capitals get eliminated. E.g. of the suggested words the correct first word ALWAYS has capitals therefore it is not a good test.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JwOverton1

                Is there anyway to change the font. I am having a hard time seeing the accent marks (fada) especially on the i 's.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                No, there’s no option to change the font; Museo Sans Rounded isn’t the best choice for distinguishing between i and í. If you use a computer for Duolingo, your browser might have a “zoom” feature to increase the size of the typeface, which can help to distinguish them. I don’t know if a similar option exists for Duolingo apps.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JwOverton1

                Thanks for your reply. I like the program very much but this font is very frustrating. Especially for an older person like myself. And zooming is very awkward.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                See this discussion for a way to change the font if you use either Firefox, Chrome, Safari, or Opera as your browser.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/danoconnell55

                Does anyone know when there will be full audio like the other languages (German, Spanish, etc.)? It would be very helpful when presented with a new word, especially since the Irish spelling and pronunciation is much different than that of English.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/galaxyrocker

                Give the fact that the current speaker can't even speak good Irish, and that they're still searching for a good replacement, I doubt there will ever be full audio.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                There will never be full audio for Irish; the voice synthesis system that Duolingo uses doesn’t support Irish, so all Irish audio comes from recordings of an actual person. Creating quality recordings and associating each of them with its particular exercise requires time, talent, and money. (The new recordings replaced the old ones in late April 2016.)


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/exeisen

                A bit of feedback on the lessons later on in the course––they tend to be very vocab heavy with very few sentences. Mostly, they ask you to translate "an X" into English as "the Y," but they're not put into the context of a sentence. In addition, they are definitely skewed towards Irish-English rather than English-Irish. As a result, these lessons can be a little dry, and I also feel that this is a missed opportunity––it would be possible, for example, to learn new vocabulary WHILE ALSO practicing the past tense, the future tense, the verbal noun, etc. In future iterations it would be nice to include more sentences rather than just words. Thank you again for a great course.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Suzneval

                I am absolutely loving the Irish lessons! There are a few glitches here and there, but overall, the program is OUTSTANDING! Kudos to Duolingo! Go raibh maith agaibh!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marcilio_mosco

                I just started the Irish course and I am loving it! I was in the Esperanto course only, and when I started this new one, I was shocked for how difficult it is compared to Esperanto. Real languages really have a lot of details, right :D I am loving it. I think it is amazing that I can study such an incredible language on here. Thank you for your hard work!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IrishWolfie38

                I have always wanted to learn Gaelic, I didn't know there was Irish Gaelic and Scottish Gaelic. I honestly don't know why I have always felt drawn to the irish gaelic language, maybe I am closer to the irish heritage in my family or something, my family background is Irish, Scottish, and English, so I don't know shrugs. Anyway, I love that you guys added Irish Gaelic, my girlfriend turned me on to your site, once Irish Gaelic was into Beta. I am really enjoying it so far!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/seamus02015

                the course is well layed out so far, enjoying it a lot. have a small bit from school and picked up bits from friends and family but always struggled with the rules of it, some of them starting to click with this, thanks. like when the strength level goes down on previous lessons, pushes you to take a step back rather than unrealisticly always going forward.

                there is an option to do a test on all that has been done so far, is there a recomendation on how often you should be doing a test?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

                Cliff of Moher! Lovely!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosRenato1909

                Thanks by share the knowledge. Go raibh maith agat!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WartzAlle

                I'm brushing up on Spanish and trying out French, Esperanto and Irish. Irish is by far the one stretching my mind. I'm still getting used to getting the verb first. As to pronunciation, would it be possible to add a unit that was purely drill? I'm thinking of a listen-type for people with no microphone and/or a read-speak for those who do have a mike.

                BTW, I find that verb first really makes a difference in how I think about, and listen to, a sentence. It creates an initial context of an action rather than a subject.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AngelaMonaghan

                Is there a percentage for Irish fluency? So far I don't have one so does this mean I am below 1%?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cait48

                There is no percentage given for Irish. Judging by the "percentage fluent" Duo gives for German, I wouldn't put too much faith in such a percentage, anyway. ;)

                If you want to test your Irish, I suggest you go to http://www.ranganna.com/tastail.aspx?id=1&lang=en and take the test. It's kind of long, 100 questions, and I suggest you follow their example and stop at the point where you're just guessing, so you might do only 50 questions, say. The link will take you to the English page, but you can switch to Irish at the top of the page, if you prefer. The test is free, and they don't send you spam or try to sell you stuff. Your result won't be a percentage but a suggested level from 1 to 7.

                You can also do Chapter 1 of any of their books/courses on line for free, which is a great deal because if you do decide to pay 45 Euro for three months access, you've already done one of the chapters! Again, no spam.

                Have fun!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AngelaMonaghan

                Hi Cait48,

                You're right regarding not putting too much faith in the "percentage fluent" feature on Duolingo. It's not that important.

                It's also interesting how you comment on the German course. I'm supposed to be 12% fluent but I'm a low beginner. So I totally disagree! However, for the Spanish course I'm 49% fluent which I think is more accurate as I am at an intermediate level.

                Also thanks for sharing the website for the Irish test. I'm also a beginner with Irish so I probably won't take the test for awhile.

                Angela


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OneBagTravel

                Loving the course so far. I find it much easier than German for some reason. One thing I'd love is if you could somehow click on a word and have the audio play.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gubman

                My only criticism would be the lack of audio on some phrases and words, and because the Irish language doesn't have a shallow orthographic depth, this can make pronunciation very difficult.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BriaV99

                I would love to see more lessons or explanations on grammar and sentence strucure, as well as some explanations on conjugations and the like.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

                Well, there are plenty of explanations on grammar and conjugations in the relevant skills (Present, Future, Genitive case, etc.) but if there is any skill in particular that you think could use an extra explanation, or if you think a concept isn't explained enough, we'd happily take some suggestions :) Just tell us the skill, and we'll look into it!

                Unfortunately, we can't add any additional lessons at the moment, but we will look into expanding important grammar lessons in the future.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BriaV99

                I'll admit right away that there was an error on my part. I've been using the mobile app and only the mobile app from the very beginning, and it doesn't show all the attached info. I logged on today to see how the computer site functioned and am very pleased to say that I have found exactly what I was missing on the mobile version.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

                actually, just based on the number of comments on sentences regarding when to use Bi and when to use Is, I think some more explanation/practice would be good. For someone whose native language only has one verb for to be, it's not intuitive figuring out when it should be a Bi construct and when it's an Is construct. So far, the only thing that has helped me (and I suspect there will be plenty of exceptions) is two nouns use Is, otherwise use Bi heh.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BriaV99

                There was an explanation of when to use Is. It was in it's own paragraph titled 'The Copula" and it stated to use Is when two things are equal, or to show someting belongs to a class/category. For example; I am a woman= Is bean mé. I am in the female category therefore I=woman. Same goes for nouns and pronouns. It is an apple= Is úll é because it=apple. I hope this helps!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

                yeah i saw that. i think a lot of people did too. it didn't help much


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                If you’ve ever studied Spanish (or Portuguese), the distinction between ser and estar is similar to the distinction between is and .

                If you haven’t studied other languages with a copula, a rough division is that descriptions of (what could be) permanent characteristics use is, and observations of (what could be) temporary states use . For example, is is used in Is cailín cliste í because the girl’s cleverness is presumed to be a permanent characteristic of hers — what she is inherently is a clever girl. Tá an cailín sin cliste uses because it’s an observation rather than a definition; that girl is clever, but her cleverness doesn’t define her — e.g. she might be thought of as a kind girl who is also clever. A permanent characteristic such as Tá sé marbh still uses because the sentence neither identifies him nor classifies him; it merely describes him as dead. Is fear marbh é uses is because it classifies him as a dead man (i.e. he is one among countless millions of dead men), and Is eisean an fear marbh uses is because it identifies him (rather than some other guy) as the dead man being discussed.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

                thanks for the reply--marbh is one of the words that continued to confuse me heh. A couple weeks ago I FINALLY figured it the copula out. But it was a really painful few weeks trying to understand why some sentences required bi and some required is. It seemed very random and was mostly memorization for me. I am sure there are exceptions to the rules you note, and I am sure i will trip over those in lessons to come. I really feel like this course could use a lot more explanation/practice with bi and is. Like i said, for people who didn't grow up with that in their native language, it's super confusing.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daithi8

                Is there a lesson on numbers and counting?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daithi8

                Is there a lesson on numbers and counting?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

                Yes, there is. It is just after the 3rd checkpoint, next to the "Travel" skill (the skill itself is called "Numbers")


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daithi8

                OK, so how do I use that without having to go through every lesson ahead of it?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

                If you know the material included in all the skills between where you are and the "Numbers" skill, you can use the test out function at the checkpoints or in each individual skill (you will be asked to complete a short test and the system will determine if it thinks you know the material, and will allow you to skip ahead), if you don't know the material between where you are and the "Numbers" skill, you just have to work through the rest of the course until then :)


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cesar.gera

                Just saying I LOVE this course! It's such a different linguistic structure from so many other languages I've studied, and it's just plain FUN to learn!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/j8enny56

                I am finding Irish very challenging-is anyone else?It is like nothing else I have ever come across linguistically!Any tips?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ColinE412185

                Hi Jenny

                I understand what you mean. I learnt Irish in school in the 80's and have returned to the language to relearn and get better at using it in conversation.

                Pronouncing Irish words can be difficult. For example some letter combinations can have 'soft' sounds, -agh which is provinces like -ahh. Also if you see a fáda over a vowel it lenghtens the letter. For example tá is like 'taa' (or pronounce like thaw in English)

                Try these links if you're having trouble with some words

                http://m.independent.ie/life/family/learning/learn-irish-with-liam-o-maonlai-26460087.html

                http://www.abair.tcd.ie

                http://www.teanglann.ie/en/fgb/

                Some words and sentences don't translate literally to English, which can also be hard to get your head around. For example Tá orcas orm (I am hungry) literally means I have hunger on me. This can add problems when trying to apply word for word translations. But keep practicing as it is a beautiful language to learn

                Go n-éirí leat


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/j8enny56

                Thanks Colin this is helpful!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/flan2784

                Because Irish sentence structure is so fundamentally different from that of English, I think it would be very helpful for there to be two translations when working through lessons- a semantic translation (as currently is) and also a word-for-word translation. This would make it a great deal easier for me to understand what I am saying and why, rather than trying to memorize chunks of phrases by rote. It would also help me grasp structure much faster and be better able to generate new sentences on my own. Sometimes word-for-word translations are available in the discussion of a question; but not always.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dovyuruk

                Hey :) I LOVE IRISH. It's so magical xD One thing, though. Uh, I would like it if it had the system of speech correction? Like Spanish or Dutch. You're sorta more confident in speech that way :)


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

                I agree, speech correction would be a really great feature to have! Unfortunately, it isn't a feature us contributors can create, and I'm not even sure if Duolingo makes the speech correction software themselves (they probably outsource it from other companies). Since there is no Irish speech recognition software currently available, it is an unlikely feature for the foreseeable future. :/


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/coreecoppinger

                Why can I not go past the phrases?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexinIreland

                Could you please share a screenshot of your tree so far? That way it can help me diagnose the problem and decide where it should be passed on to. Thanks :D


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kyiaola

                this Irish course is great!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JesseJadee

                I love this course, especially because then I can have conversations with my other Irish friends and they know what I'm saying is actually really basic, but it's how we say it that surprises everyone.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JesseJadee

                I love this course, especially because then I can have conversations with my other Irish friends and they know what I'm saying is actually really basic, but it's how we say it that surprises everyone.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/allegedparadise

                So I have a question about the very first basics lesson. In the initial menu for basics one where it lists the words you will be learning, the word for "man" is spelled "fhear" but in the lessons themselves it is spelled "fear". Which is correct? Sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong thread, I wasn't sure where to ask.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daithi8

                They're both right. The basic noun is fear. Fhear is the same word where the 'f' is subject to elision (séimhiú). Why? Continue lessons and you'll find out.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arrikis1

                I get the Irish word for the day from the Transparent Language website. Today's word is an mhuc. The sentence it is used in is Rinne Circe muca d'fhir Odaiséis. Why did they use d'fhir instead of a fhir? In English it's translated to Odysseus's men, which we would say his men, not your men. Is this a quirk of Irish or did they get it wrong? thanks


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                In that sentence, the d’ in d’fhir is a shortening of the preposition de rather than of the possessive adjective do.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TomHarris14

                Hello. Thanks to those putting together this course. But I would like to know what dialect is primarily being taught. If this has already been covered somewhere, please direct me. Over 400 posts is a lot to comb through.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                It’s the Caighdeán Oifigiúil (“Official Standard”) that’s being taught, which is assembled from parts of each of the three major dialects.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/madfly23

                love using this because i moved from ireland to Australia and i dont want to lose my irish speaking hertiage im only a student so i find it helpful


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/redEmetic

                I really wish we could get some more audio to go with this course; both for hearing pronunciation and practicing pronunciation. That would be the best place for improvement with this course in my opinion.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BenjamnHer6

                I love learning Irish (or Geailge to make it "serious" or whatever the word is). Great job with this and other courses. -Sorry for any mistake, English is not my main language...


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MegSpradlin

                So. I studied a bit of Irish a few years ago, under an Irish Professor by the name of Padraig. I'm noticing the pronunciation he gave us for go raibh maith agat, and words like agat, fáilte, and a few other things are a little different. Is this a different dialect from Ulster? I'm brushing up; but, am marginally confused by the differences I'm hearing in audio format.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                Without going into more detail of the pronunciations that your professor taught you vs. the pronunciations that you’re hearing here, it’s difficult to answer your question.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MegSpradlin

                For instance in go raibh maith agat, he had us enunciate it more like go ruh maith agat instead of go ruv,. It was a difference in how bh was spoken. Also, thank you for the prompt response. I was a little confused and was also similarly curious! :)


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                Raibh as “ruv” is common in Munster pronunciation; my guess is that your professor was focusing on a Connacht pronunciation.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MatConn

                I'm Irish with a very poor knowledge of the language, largely from poor teaching methods but largely from a failure to have any interest instilled when in school. My first teacher was a Munster man, so we learnt the Munster pronunciation, even though we were in Connaught. "Raibh" to me is more "rev" than "ruv".


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                Yes, my reply to MegSpradlin was in terms of the description that she’d provided.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bettina87

                Hi!! New learner here!! I find this language extremely fascinating but difficult. I personally can not remember the words at all, which did not happen with other courses like German or Spanish. I do not know if it is possible but I would find useful to have all the words learned at each checkpoint... I have the impression that in the description of the learning unit not all the words are mentioned... Am I wrong? Maybe you could put the gender in the description of the unit as well! Maybe using colors? (Red=feminine Blu=masculine) Just brainstorming here.... In any case so far I am really enjoying learning Irish! :D Thanks for the hard work!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                Unfortunately your gender and color ideas aren’t implementable with the Duolingo infrastructure as it currently exists.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daithi8

                Maybe not, but it seems like a great idea. You could remember words as "a blue word" or "a red word". Maybe for a future upgrade of the system? Soon.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                To date the Duolingo infrastructure people (as opposed to the course creators) have been focusing on features like fluency percentages, which in my view are less useful than gender identification for nouns would be. I admire your optimism in positing “Soon”.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MatConn

                First off, I'm Irish, and had to learn Irish for 10 years in school. I hated it and so have never had a decent grasp of the language. I'm really enjoying this course, but like you say I'm struggling to remember words too. I find it fascinating how some words have stayed with me for 50 years, while others have been totally lost. My biggest issues are when to add a "b" or "m" before a word, and when to add a "h" after the first letter. The verbs are also an issue. They seem to change without my really understanding why. I feel that if I could understand the reasons, I may start to make more progress with the vocabulary. Just to re-iterate, I'm really enjoying the course and feel that I've learnt so much in a short time


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

                A “b” would be added before a word when eclipsing a noun that starts with a “p”, e.g. póca (“pocket”) becoming i bpóca (“in a pocket”). An “m” would be added before a word when eclipsing a noun that starts with a “b”, e.g. bád (“boat”) becoming ár mbád (“our boat”). An “h” is added after the first letter in any case of lenition of lenitable consonants, e.g. cat becoming mo chat ; a feminine noun like bean becoming an bhean ; addressing someone — cara becoming a chara ; etc. You’ll get more practice with verbs as you proceed through the course, but if there’s something in particular that you’d like to have explained about them, feel free to ask.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaryLea11

                Irish has very few irregular verbs (or so my father tells me) either eleven or twelve. So, with some fine tweaking I feel the verbs could really be easier to learn well.

                I agree with you that this is a fine course. And I am really looking forward to the new voice.

                But I do agree, some points of Irish grammar (lenition and ellipses) are very hard to grasp. I guess we will have to keep practising!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CatMcCat

                My brain is having a lot of difficulty with those irregular verbs too. Memrise has a course and I hope the link below works for you. The course does have some flaws and errors and I don't think it's being maintained, because I've asked a few questions and made a few comments on it, and never had a response, but it isn't bad apart from that. (The hard part is realizing that some of them are either wrong or could be expressed a bit better.) http://www.memrise.com/course/379468/irish-irregular-verbs/


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MatConn

                While this course is great, I feel that actively speaking the language would add enormously to my skill in the language. I live in England in an area where Irish speakers if there are any cannot meet and use the language. Does anyone have any ideas?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TaylarStratton

                I love that you have a course on Irish. I can't wait to learn it so I can speak to those who know Irish. I hope I will quickly catch due to be part Irish. Thank you


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ConfuzzledChild

                The course is certainly very interesting. Due to the lack of explanation I've had to guess at grammar rules and stuff like that but it is a start and I am enjoying it a lot.

                I've had a few laughs about how it first presented the word for man though:

                What is a man?

                picture of a man smiling creepily with a camera in his hands

                fear


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SaidSalim

                As much as I am fascinated with the Irish course for English speakers, I really do wish that the program would have more audio recordings for all their words because half of the time, I am unsure of and cannot always correctly pronounce the words that I see. Having an audio recording of a word I touch or click on would greatly improve my understanding of the language.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MatConn

                I'm currently doing a lesson from World. The text is "Óltar beoir i bpriomhchathair na Polainne". However the spoken sentence is completely different: "Is teanga álainn í an Polainnis". I'm uncertain as to last word, but the sentence is incorrect anyway


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OliverCasserley

                Stick with the written text - that is the advice as far as I know. I think that last word means "polish language". Slainte Matt.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MatConn

                Thanks Oliver I did that and got through. My comment was really to point out an error!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MatConn

                I've been doing the Irish course on the mobile app. Is there any way to synchronise that with the online lessons. According to the online version, I haven't done a lesson in ages!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BredaCourtney

                Hello, I am a 78year old woman, who was born in in Ireland and I spoke fluent Irish when I was at school there. But I have forgotten most of it and am trying to relearn it through your program,which I think is a really good program. But I am not very tech savvy. So can you please tell me how to get to the next lesson after lesson 3? I am finding no directions and I am stuck there. Thank you.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CatMcCat

                I'm just guessing here, but I guess that you have finished the first group of lessons (Basics 1, which consists of three lessons). Usually, once you've finished a group, you will end up back at "home" and then you can go on to the next group (which is "Phrases" in this case.) If you have been strengthening, then it probably won't return you to home, but that's OK, because you can just click on "home" at the top, which will bring you to the entire list of lessons, so then you can move on to the next group of lessons. I hope this makes sense, and that it works for you.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Brid-Eilis

                I'm guessing you mean "level 4" as you are on level 3 at the moment. You get to the next level by practicing and building up what they call XP (short for experience I think). The more you practice they more XP you will get. After another 30 XP points you will be on level 4. You can see that on your profile page.

                As for the lessons: if they are grey coloured they are not available until you finish the previous lessons. If they are brightly coloured or gold, you can do them. So do some of those you have done already again, or move on to the next lesson and you will get XP for the next level.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CodyFuhrma

                It would be really useful to have a course on sentence structure at the beginning of each language to help with the correct way of saying the phrase or sentence


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daithi8

                Irish sentences are, basically, VSO - Verb, Subject, Object. They start with a verb, go to the subject of that verb, and then on to the object. I was told this early in my studies, but it has taken me a long time to really get it! Of course, sentences can get more complex, which can distort the VSO structure, but while you're at a simple level, it works.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bredacm

                Would it be possible to see the comments from most recent to oldest? To start reading them and then discover that they are a year old is a but discouraging. Thank you.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RonLalor

                Won't go past phrases. Just wants to redo lesson 3. What do I do?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DiarmuiddeRoiste

                Dia daoibh - i have a question, not sure if this is the correct forum.. if not, i'm sorry! Working through the courses here, i came across the following sentences : "An úsáideann siad an euro sa Ghearmáin", but "Ní úáideann siad an euro i Sasana". Why is there the difference sa Ghearmáin / i Sasana ? any tips would be very apreaciated!

                Go raibh maith agaibh!


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cait48

                Many (most, really) countries' names include 'an' http://www.101languages.net/irish/country-names-irish

                'In' is 'i' in Irish, and i+an=sa (san in front of a vowel) 'An Ghearmáin' belongs to this group.

                If a country doesn't have 'an' as part of its name, just say 'i(n).' Sasana is part of this group


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/irishfox2

                it here because there is not near enough audio. I have no idea if I am pronouncing it correctly and it would do me no good to learn it wrong. :(


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Uwe802850

                What dialect of Gaelic is this? Scottish, Munster, Connacht.....?


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cait48

                Gaelic is a group of languages, like Germanic or Romance. Having said that, I have to admit that the English name for the language spoken by many people in Scotland is (Scottish) Gaelic. That language is not spoken in Ireland, although it has many similarities to Ulster Irish. The language spoken in Ireland is called Irish, or Gaeilge when you're speaking Irish.

                There is one standard written language in Ireland, and this is the written form Duolingo is trying to teach.

                There are three main dialects in Irish: Ulster, Connacht, and Munster.
                There is no standard spoken Irish; if someone is hired by an Irish-language television or radio station, that person speaks their own dialect.

                I've been told that the woman speaking in the Duolingo audio is speaking standard Irish with a Connacht accent.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MatConn

                3 dialects are Connacht, Ulster and Munster. Personally I find the Connacht dialect particularly difficult on the ear, even though I was born in connacht. that may be because my first Irish teachers were from Munster. Unfortunately, they were poor teachers or I was a poor student.


                https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daithi8

                Thanks, Cait, that's the clearest explanation I've heard yet.

                Learn Irish in just 5 minutes a day. For free.