"Dia duit. Dia is Muire duit."

Translation:Hello. Hello to you too.

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/xounds

Literally translated this means: "God be with you. God and Mary be with you."

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nathnainiel
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Is the meaning still religious, or has it just become the way to say hello?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/xounds

To certain extent it's just the way to say hello but the words are still very obvious. It's not like "goodbye" in english. I'm never really comfortable using it. You can also keep adding in saints in an effort to be more and more polite. There's a formula for the order you add them in but I can't remember it off the top of my head. I know you can add Joseph, Patrick and Bridget though.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/runem
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Fun fact: Goodbye in English comes from God-be-with-you :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bruadair

Another fun fact: Goodbye in Spanish (Adiós) is a contraction of "A" meaning "to" and "Dios" meaning "God".

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ChickenRunner02

seems like adieu is french too?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sollihein
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And addio in italian as well

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ZoranMudronja
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... in Slavic languages too. In Croatian, an infrequent phrase for "hello" is "Bog s tobom" ("God be with you"), and a more frequent one for "goodbye" is "zbogom" ("with god").

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SilkenLingo
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And "adeus" in portuguese.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/99shaunaR
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And Αντίο in Greek

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SpiralStat

Languages must be obsessed with God XD. No, but really, that is so cool.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/zach490375

the same in french "Adieu" however if you like someone.. NEVER SAY ADIEU because it means until God meaning "i don't want to see you until then"

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Melenhawenn

similar to Grüß Gott (Southern Germany)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Clover612145

Wow that is really cool! Thanks for telling me!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OsianHedd

I feel quite smug that in my language we say "Hwyl fawr" which pretty much means "big fun" :)

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stk
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I almost can't tell if you're serious! I sent you a Lingot though :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chaka1987

Irish is linguistically all about one-upmanship. This is true facts. And yeah, it's basically ingrained as the only way to say hello in Irish itself.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CathalLeah
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dia is muire is paidriag is bríd is gobnait na cille is iosaf is colm chille is ... and it goes on like that

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chokeberry
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Brilliantly depicted here by Foil, Arms & Hog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj0LmuEvufQ

A close transcript goes like this:

'Dia duit.'

'Dia is Muire duit.'

'Dia is Muire is Joseph duit.'

'Dia is Muire is Joseph is Bridget duit.'

'Dia is Muire is Joseph is Bridget is Christopher duit.'

'Dia is Muire is Joseph is Bridget is Christopher is Benedict duit.'

'Dia is Muire is Joseph is Bridget is Christopher is Benedict ...um ...is Bono duit!'

'Dia is Muire is Joseph is Bridget is Christopher is Benedict is Bono ...is KANYE duit!' (looks triumphant)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ShaneStova

Why did it repeat so much to day the same thing and I don't get why a word meaning Mary is even in the sentence please help!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/99shaunaR
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How do you send lingots?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo
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In discussions, if you see a comment by someone, there are links underneath in grey. One of them is "Give Lingot".

Each time you click on it, you'll send them one lingot. (And will need to confirm the pop-up that you really want to give away one of your lingots to that person.)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bruadair

I'm an atheist but I'd still use it, just as I would say Adiós in Spanish. I also find myself saying silly things like "thank god I'm an athiest" without even intending irony. The way I see it many words and phrases have their roots in distant cultures and customs but we won't stop saying Thursday because we don't believe in Thor or January because we don't believe in Janus.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

And that's pretty much exactly what happened in Irish; the phrase isn't really considered Christian anymore at all.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DenisCampbell

That is true, even here in sectarian Béal Fhierste there is no religious connotation (except as invented by people in blogs like this). Some younger people here feel it is a wee bit formal or old fashioned, like as in shaking hands. The very informal and slang expression cen doigh (cane doy)..../doigh maith is popular, and the correct cad e mar ata tú is close to the almost obligatory greeting in English 'what about ye' (which must be said in a broad Belfast accent!).

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ConODonovan
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down south we say conas taoi?, I imagine ye might say ciuci bhfuil tu? xcuse any misspelling! but that doesn't ake away from the mystical Dia greeting

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ChickenRunner02

So would you say it in Northern Ireland then?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EliStuart

Yes, you would.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoeyH
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Completely agree, although I don't blame anyone who doesn't. It's a personal thing. Societal views about everything from religion to how women are/were viewed are encoded in every language -- there's a strong argument that the French language is misogynist -- and Irish is certainly no exception. It's especially interesting to me whether words came from Latin, as in Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, or older forms of Irish. It can be tough as an atheist to use very heavily religious expressions, but this thread is full of examples why it shouldn't really be a problem.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elin.7-1
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Wednesday (Woden's-day), Thursday (Thor's-day) and Friday (Friga's-day) came from Norse (Scandinavian) not Latin!!!!

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JamesTWils
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They are simply from Old English, actually, which, like the Northern Germanic languages, is descended from a proto-Germanic. The English god Woden would be Odin in Old Norse and the English god Thunar would be Thor in Old Norse. That said, they are clearly translations for the Latin tutelary gods of the days, Mercury and Jove.

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elin.7-1
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@JTW

Equivalents rather than translations I think. Woden/Odin/Jove/Jupiter/Zeus share similar positions is their respective pantheons, but not identical histories and characteristics (Roman and Greek dieties have more similarities than Roman and Northern Tradition dieties)

Interesting topic of discussion :o)

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lysaara

I couldn't think of what 'Dia is Muire dhuit' would translate to in English so I gave the literal translation and was told it's incorrect :/

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stardustnight

I love things like that! :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aaditsingh8
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You must have heard 'namaste' from Hindi? It means hello, and is made of two words: 'namah' and 'te' (When added, the 'h' sound from 'namah' changes to 's'). And it means 'I salute you'!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pigie

wow, that's so neat!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aaditsingh8
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Hindi grammar is soooo very specific!! You'll know it when you learn it!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/atikonium
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Actually "Namasté" means "I bow to you"

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aaditsingh8
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Yeah that's another equivalent! :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SubjectVerb1

To be more specific, it means "I bow to your divine nature." So yet another religious greeting :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stardustnight

Oh I didn't know that yet! Thanks :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aaditsingh8
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:)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AnnaBnana316

Me too. It just makes me feel like I really am there :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dzheykob
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I know, it says it in the tips and notes section...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ConODonovan
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Truly that is what it means!! And beautiful it is!. It makes me snort when I see the hello and right back atcha translation. All homage nontheless to DL for its embracing of universality.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DonallDoug1

Ta an ceart agat.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HS8J1

YES!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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And one more thing! The speaker here is saying 'dia dhuit' (the 'dh' is pronounced 'ghw' [ɣʷ], which is the way to say it in the Connacht dialect, but the standard way is 'dia duit' with the 'd' pronounced as you'd expect.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sigmacharding
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In the east of ireland in school it is pronounced like the english- "ditch"

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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That'd be because any speakers in the east would be learning the standard dialect, An Caighdeán, where "duit" would be pronounced /dɪtʃ/.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/naomhniall

Any Irish dialects doing it like the Scots: "JIA Gwitch"?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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I think you mean Scottish Gaelic, and yes: that's more or less how it's pronounced in Connamara.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hpfan5
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^Thats the pronunciation I learned from my Irish born Father from County Clare

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hpfan5
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A pronunciation between jia gwitch and dia dhuit

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Irish-relearn

I was typing in dia dhuit since that is what the speaker says but it tells me I'm wrong! Learnt munster irish and we pronounce it dia gwit and spell it dia dhuit.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lysaara

That's how I learned to spell it, too. I am coming to realise through Duolingo that my education was a dizzying array of different regional dialects, which might account for the difficulty I always had with the language...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/naomhniall

If you can't spell something at least 2 different ways in Irish......

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/emperorchiao
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Yep, you're best off learning good Cork Irish. "Standard" Irish is a hodgepodge of all the dialects.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ag3n7_z3r0
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I hoped my ears weren't deceiving me! It's extremely helpful to see these things expressed in the IPA. I'd be lost without it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hpfan5
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IPA?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Barhiril

International Phonetic Alphabet. Not Indian Pale Ale, like you might expect...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jackboii01
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Sorry but Connaught ;) Also the same goes for words like Chuaigh. We (Sligo) pronounce it Who-ee but we had a substitute teacher from munster who insisted on us saying khu-ig-h

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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I'm from Sligo too, and I'd also pronounce it that way. They speak crazy moon language in Munster anyway!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jackboii01
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Well isn't that interesting!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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I mean to say that I'd say 'who-ee', as you put it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jackboii01
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joke about toffs or something similar

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hpfan5
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Moon language?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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'Crazy moon language' is a reference to the cartoon 'The Tick'.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ChickenRunner02

I thought it seemed odd

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rewjeo
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Lost a heart here... as it turns out forgetting the o in hello counts as more than a typo...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo
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Yes, typos only count as typos if the result is not a word. Unfortunately, "hell" is a word in English, so it thinks you got a completely wrong word rather than making a typo in the right one.

So mistyping "the" as "te" would probably work but mistyping it as "he" wouldn't because "he" is a word.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alwhitbeck
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On another question I lost a heart because I put Meny instead of Menu. I don't know what Meny would be.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elin.7-1
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I found that in German too.....DL is consistent in that anyway LOL
Along with "ears" instead of "eats" umpteen times.... :o(

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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One other note: the way I'd pronounce this is 'gee-uh ditch' [dʒiə dɪtʃ]. When you have consonants surrounded by 'i' and/or 'e', the consonant is 'slender' (palatalised), while when it's surrounded by 'a', 'o' and/or 'u', it's 'broad' (velarised).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tarmaie
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I think this marks the beginning of pronunciation really killing me.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GarrettIrish

I think it really helps to look up broad and slender consonants first, then sort of come back to it. Irish pronunciation is actually pretty consistent after that. There are dialect differences and things, but that's the part that usually confuses people the most in my experience.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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In more northern dialects, the 't' in 'duit' is pronounced 'tch' as in 'witch'.

You only use this form when greeting to one person.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/smrch
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Perhaps a new greeting for Atheists uncomfortable with the religious language in the original:

"Dawkins Duit." "Dawkins is Hitchens duit" ? :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scilling
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Perhaps similar sounding greetings to the original might do: Bia duit. Bia is muireog duit.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/faith46
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Hahahahahaha God Bless'em!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lorenagay
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Snaughling here...if I had been drinking milk, it would've been ugly. Thank Dia is Muire I wasn't. (Nope, can't remember "Thank you" in Gaeilge. Frozen brain syndrome. Too much DL tonight.)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Onyx.Rose
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Right...That's just straight-up cheesy.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SubjectVerb1

You may have just won this thread.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Tyralot
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Why in this sentence is the english word 'and' 'is' in irish. Why isn't it agus?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Endosymbiosis

In this case, "is" is just a shortening of "agus." A contraction. Sometimes it's also seen as 's. I'm just a learner, though, so please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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You're spot on.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Tyralot
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Ah, thanks

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Tamhain

but if you use 's duo says you are incorrect

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sleamon

Why doesn't it accept Dia dhuit or Dia dhaoibh as a correct spelling/translation? My boyfriend is a native Irish speaker (it's his first language) from Connemara and that's how him and all of Connemara says AND writes it… Is this based solely on Leinster Irish, does anyone know? I just get frustrated sometimes when it says I'm wrong for things like that...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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There's no such thing as 'Leinster Irish' anymore, not for centuries. In most dialects 'duit' and 'daoibh' don't undergo lenition in this case: that's solely a Conemara quirk.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN
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Please report it!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/groscochon

I thought it was "hello. hello to you to mary." D:

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Seamus747
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It is "God and Mary to you". "Muire" is a unique form which applies only to the Virgin Mary, the mother of Jesus. Mary for all other women is "Máire".

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/groscochon

ok

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MarkB900265
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shouldn't Dia's Muire duit be valid?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

It should. If it didn't take it, I suggest reporting it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MarkB900265
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Reported and I keep getting it wrong because I forget it doesn't understand the contraction :(

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dovyuruk
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It sound like dia guit. Is that correct?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

Nope. This speaker is way off. It's actually like the "ch" sound, except as a "g" instead of a "c".

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN
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No scroll up, it is of the Connacht dialect per Talideon, but perhaps galaxyrocker has a clearer idea?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

No, she's not. She's using /g/, not /ɣ/. Also, she's not using a slender "d" or "t" either.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN
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Where are you from and which dialect do you speak? I am hoping you yourself are from Connemara and that would be most helpful, because you would surely have the pronunciation for that dialect. In any case, you could help us out with whichever dialect you do use. You could record for us on this site: http://www.forvo.com/languages/ga/

Thank you below, it is so fast and faint, but I will keep at it until I can understand it properly.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

I'm not from Connemara, but all my teachers were and I've spent two months doing an immersion program there, graduating from the highest level with the highest grade.

You can hear it from a native speaker here. It's the last bit of the sentence, from Bríd, who is a native speaker.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dovyuruk
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Okay. Thanks :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PPPPP37

I love the literal translation, and I'm glad it is what it is. Makes it more meaningful in my opinion.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/envythenight

Since the speaker seems to be saying the 'dia dhuit' pronunciation, shouldn't that be an acceptable alternative? It registers as a typo...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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It's Connemara dialect. If you're being asked to type in what you hear, it ought to accept the spelling you gave. If it's not, report it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alwhitbeck
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Okay I have a question. I read through the other comments, but haven't seen anything about it, so I hope I'm not repeating. Why is the M capitalized, it's in the middle of the sentence? "Dia is Muire duit."

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo
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The literal translation is "God and Mary (be) with you". And "Mary", like all proper names, is capitalised even in the middle of a sentence.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jjbaroff

Is there some particular reason that "Hello. Hello to you" is not acceptable? Said another way, is there a particular reason why it must be "Hello to you too"?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/digitalpointer
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I think because the second sentence is only used as a reply, never as an initial greeting.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jjbaroff

It actually turns out that it's just because this is in beta. They now accept this answer.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

I've heard the second one used as a standard greeting before. It really just depends on the speaker and the formality.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Seamus747
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The second one is always the reply, never the initial greeting.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

Generally, yes. I have heard it as a greeting, though. Usually more polite. Response inckudes pádraig

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/naomhniall

It can be by mistake. That's when you say: "Agus Padraig."

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/seanwtreacy

Is the d in duit supposed to sound like a g? Or is that a weirdness with the recording?

I love the wacky flavor of the pronunciation in this language. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RinC.
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I can't seem to hear the difference in pronunciation between "duit" and "daoibh". Any hints on that?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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They sound very different. I don't know what your native language is, so I'll assume you're familiar enough with English to figure out some ghetto phonetic transcriptions, though I'll include an IPA version too.

'duit' [d̪ɪʨ] is pronounced almost like the English word 'ditch'.

'daoibh' [d̪i:ʋ] is pronounced something like 'deev'.

These are only approximations, though the IPA is correct at least for the dialect I was brought up with.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RinC.
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Thank you very much! Your answer makes perfect sense, I got the difference now!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/julesmGGF
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I see your God, and I raise you that God and also Mary..

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MarkB900265
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I see your God and Mary and I raise you "God, Mary and St Patrick" to you\

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SubjectVerb1

I love this greeting. What a lovely way to honor Our Lady <3

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zinthak

I thought it was said as ''jee-uh ditch''?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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It can be, but that's a matter of dialect.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zinthak

Which dialect is ''jee-uh ditch''?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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Every other one except for Conamara Irish, though Munster Irish realises palatalisation differently, where it's more like "dʲee-uh ditʲ", where the "ʲ" is meant to represent a 'y' sound in 'tune' after the 't' in the British pronunciation of the word.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mturner2891
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Is there a way to remember the "d" sound and "g" sounds with the words that start with D? or maybe I'm hearing it wrong? Dia & Duit?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SaintMacrina
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God to you. God and Mary to you. I love this!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GaelicGirl2

I hear: ti reits, ti es murre wuts... It doesnt look at all at the text, but every language have their own pronounciation for certain letters (though irish has the most unexpected) but both the "duit" sound completely different aswell !

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TWestlund

Wow. Just read through this discussion. The creators of this program must be so frustrated with you people. You're learning Irish. This is how Irish is spoken. It means "hello". MOVE. ON.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CobaltOakTree
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Does anyone know how they said "hello" in pre-Christian times? Does one need to go further back to find an answer? Old Irish? Ancient?

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RichardMik2

On a seperate note from the many interesting comments above, can some explain to me why "is" is all of the sudden "and" instead of "agus" and when to use "is" for "and" as opposed to "agus". I first came across "is" for "and" when i learned the lullaby Einini and was confused when i heard it there as well since i already knew that "agus" was "and". Thanks for the aid.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/talideon
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'is' is essentially an unstressed variation of 'agus' - they're considered one in the same word. Consider the phrase 'fish and chips' in English: the 'and' in that phrase is often reduced down to an unstressed form, so you get 'fish 'n chips'; the "'n" is just a reduced, unstressed version of 'and'.

As to when you'd use it, well, it's used in some set phrases such as this and also where it simply sounds better due to giving a more pleasant rhythm. Most of the time, you'll be seeing 'agus' in writing though.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RichardMik2

Go raibh maith agat!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LazyLinguist5
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Just wondering, is the d in "duit" supposed to sound like a g? Or is it just an audio quirk?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cyclones04

Ummm... This is weird I did the correct translation and it even showed me the answer which is the same as mine but calls it incorrect?! What the heck!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/septicsans

Hello hello too you to? Is this meant to conversation cause i dont get it

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo
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Yes - Patrick greets Sean with "Dia duit!" and Sean replies "Dia is Muire duit!"

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FlatTooth

So would I say this whole phrase to greet a person/friend? Could I simply say "dia duit" to say hello? Thanks for your help!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo
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This "sentence" is really more of a mini-conversation -- one person says "Dia duit!" and the other person may reply "Dia is Muire duit!"

You wouldn't say both of those things right after each other yourself.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FlatTooth

haha I was wondering about that! This makes much more sense now, thank you!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hazza.yg

YEAH YOU TELL THEM GUYS

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Liqht1

Wow, what a thread. Glad I read in to it. However my question is more about the pronunciation. I want to make sure I'm really hearing it correctly... Phonetically, in Dia duit, duo pronounces this, what seems to be a noise very similar to the French R. Is this the right mouth shape?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nadine524763

Is this Irish the same as Gaelic

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scilling
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That would depend upon your definition of “Gaelic”.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Celine266257

According to what I learned, many years ago, my answer is correct.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scilling
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What answer did you provide?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/khanhcolen4A
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To certain extent it's just the way to say hello but the words are still very obvious. It's not like "goodbye" in english. I'm never really comfortable using it. You can also keep adding in saints in an effort to be more and more polite. There's a formula for the order you add them in but I can't remember it off the top of my head. I know you can add Joseph, Patrick and Bridget though

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Losa721809

I read in one of the other postings, by an atheist student, regarding the religious connotations. In English, upon hearing a sneeze, people may regurgitate, "God bless you." As for myself, I leave the imaginary beings out of it and simply say, "bless you." Be it karma or some mythological being who is doing the blessing, that is left to you and your superstitious beliefs or lack thereof. The same applies to Irish references of supernatural nonsense. I will not and have never greeted another Irish speaking person in this fashion. I will simply say, "Haigh." Which simply means, "Hi."

I may also use: maidin mhaith [good morning], or more commonly, "lá maith" [good day].

To me, a language is not just about how something is said, it is a way of communicating thought and intention. Why would I ever wish an imaginary, bronze-age, sadistic psychopathic on anyone? God be with you. Freddy Kruger be with you. Leatherface be with you. It's all the same thing, in reality. They are all evil. They are all sadistic. They are all imaginary.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JamesTWils
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A language is, indeed, more than just how something is said. Language and other aspects of culture, including religion, are intimately intertwined. You, for instance, have taken the Christian god you object to out of what you say when someone sneezes, yet you retain the blessing that came with Christian ideas about disease, instead of, for instance, simply saying "cover your mouth" or "quit sneezing on me." If you want to speak Japanese properly, there will be Shinto elements to some of the phrases you will say. If you want to speak Arabic, there will be many Muslim elements to what you say. When I was learning Russian in the 1980s, there were clearly Communist elements to the language, as well as Christian elements that simply could not be wiped away.

Whatever language you learn, though, you should pay attention to terms for insults, since you clearly enjoy dismissing those who are not like you as idiots.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GaelicGirl2

not getting into the other parts of this discussion.. but im pretty sure blessings predated christianity by many centuries. (Odin be with you)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/syntyche1981
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I utterly despise the updated voice.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

Perhaps, but it's at least a competent speaker.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AvaSimbelmyne
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wow...and I thought I was taking a lot of languages...holy cow you guys do a lot. XD

Russian is my hardest...different keys. X_X Irish is by far my favorite so far though.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JamesTWils
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No accounting for taste, I suppose. I find Russian a lot more straightforward than Irish.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AvaSimbelmyne
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:) Irish and yes, Russian, are a lot easier than learning Latin. But Russian is still harder. I suppose it just depends. I need to dedicate more time to it, but I have more urgent things than that. I love that people ARE dedicated to learn a new alphabet though. And I'm not very good at Russian yet, so maybe when I progress further I will think the same. I don't know :) But I did only start last week or so.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JamesTWils
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It'll take you a week or two, but very soon reading Russian will seem quite natural to you. After a few months, I would barely notice the shift from one alphabet to another and my main problem was not mixing alphabets when I was writing.

But I am sorry to say that you will probably find Russian as hard as Latin. It has a somewhat similar verbal system, but the nouns are every bit as complicated as Latin.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AvaSimbelmyne
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o.o oh XD I accept that challenge. I took to learning (LOTR) dwarrow language (the runic system, ancient Khuzdul to be exact (Moria)) four years ago, and sense then have been able to write and read in it fluently. I taught my friends how to and we write letters to each other. we live many states away... Thanks for warning me though, I appreciate that. I cant wait to become better acquainted with all these languages. oh, and I loved your comeback/comment to the mans quote, I just posted another comment to that.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GaelicGirl2

really? I found latin pretty easy, and this is well, like learning vietnamese or something. Ok tiger bear elephant and cat easily recognised but much more than that isnt recognisable, (and for me pronouncable or writable, or even understanding what is said, lol, if it is written im getting sómewhere, but not far).

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/77R0exoR

This translants as, "God be with you. God and Mary be with you."

This predates christianity in Ireland and is the God of all things from Ireland's pagan past.....providence. So I am informed.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa521104

Seems that consonants in Irish are palatalised not only before "i" and "e", but also after. Is that correct?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo
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More the other way around: Palatalised consonants have an "i" or "e" written before and/or after them.

Most consonants come in pairs: palatalised (front) or "slender" and velarised (back) or "broad".

You can't have a back vowel letter next to a palatalised consonant nor a front vowel letter next to a velarised consonant.

So in writing, a vowel letter may be inserted which is not necessarily pronounced but indicates that the preceding or following consonant letter is to be pronounced slender or broad.

Thus you may have quite a few vowel letters in a row -- if, for example, you have a back vowel between two slender consonants, there will be at least three vowel letters: one for the vowel sound and two front vowel letters on either side to show that the consonants are slender.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa521104

Wow, very interesting, thanks! And how to figure out, which vowel finally should be pronounced? For example, in "duit" and "dhaoibh" it's "i", but in "maith" it's "a", in "Gaeilge" it's "e"... Any rules to understand it?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo
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1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa521104

Really complicated! But practice makes perfect, I hope... Thanks a lot!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SLeason

I just typed "Hello. Hell to you too." I would not make a polite tourist

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ScarlettDe414358

Would this be like, 2 people conversing? Like, "Hello!" And the someone else says, "Hello to you too!"

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo
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I think that's what is meant, yes -- a phrase and a response by another person.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Alex196389

So, how is "Dia duit" different than "Dia diaobh" (I know i spelled that wrong, sorry.) I see that last one come up every so often but it claims they mean the same thing.

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Onyx.Rose
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One’s singular, the other’s plural. It’s like the difference between “God to you” and “God to y’all” if it were said like that in the American South. So “Hi!”...”Hi, y’all!”

3 months ago
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Learn Irish in just 5 minutes a day. For free.