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"Maidin mhaith"

Translation:A good morning

August 25, 2014



If Irish ever wants to craft its own alphabet, I wouldn't be mad. I can't seem to grasp this spelling and it's mucking up my answers.


It has. It's known as Gaelic type. Though it's similar to Roman type. the main difference is that aspiration is written using a dot over the aspirated consonant rather than an 'h' after it. And it has the Tironian 'and' symbol.


Pardon the ignorance but is 'Gaelic type' commonly used in Ireland? In other words, when I go to Ireland will I be seeing signs using both alphabets?


Not really. Road signs have place names written in both English and Irish, for example, both using the same alphabet as in English. The Gaelic alphabet is mostly archaic, or romantic/artistic, if that makes sense :)


The Gaelic type is not an alphabet. It simply uses a diracritic sign (the dot over a consonant).

In my opinion, the language would need a proper alphabet in order to make clearer the difference between broad and slender consonants; using silent vowels makes things too complicated for learners.


Irish has "a proper alphabet".

It wasn't designed for "learners" - that's not it's primary function.


For me it sounds "Matin Wah" is it correct?


More like Moh-jin Wah


I agree with you. I hear Wah as well. Focloir has examples of "maith" pronounciation.
It sounds like "mah" in Connacth and Munster or "moih" with Ulster pronounciation.



Why is Irish spelling so strange?


Because it has more sounds than the Latin alphabet has letters (for example, broad and slender versions of most consonants), so they had to come up with tricks to indicate those extra sounds.

Also because Irish like to show the base form of a word in mutated (lenited/eclipsed) forms, so they add letters rather than changing the initial letter the way Welsh (for example) does - where penn "head" would go to benn when lenited rather than to bpenn, etc, or how Cornish writes "an venyn vyghan" for "the small woman" which would be "an bhenyn bhyghan" in Irish style (the base words are "benyn" and "byghan" and they are lenited much as in Irish).


I find Irish easier than English. Irish is consistent, but English you never know how the letter combinations will be pronounced, unless you've heard it spoken, and seen it spelled previously. "Though", "enough", and "through" are good examples of that... as are "read", "lead", and "live", which all have multiple possible meanings, and pronunciations.


what's the difference between Maidin maith and Maidin mhaith? Is it a typo


It should be Maidin mhaith, because maidin (being feminine) lenites the following adjective if possible.


I'm confused as to why it's 'maidin' and 'maidin mhaith' and 'bean' but 'bhean mhaith.' Is it because one is a phrase and one is just a noun/adjective?


When you use feminine singular nouns with the definite article an, you add a lenition to the noun (if possible).

  • Maidin mhaith = (a) good morning
  • An mhaidin mhaith = the good morning
  • Bean mhaith = (a) good woman
  • An bhean mhaith = the good woman

Bhean mhaith would not be a grammatical phrase on its own.


L, N, and R are the letters that can't be lenited.


Why do you say "if possible"? When would it not be possible?


Not all letters can be lenited, so even if the noun is feminine the spelling will not change:

  • Léine mhaith = (a) good shirt
  • An léine mhaith = the good shirt


How come "mhaith" is spelled with an "h"?


Maidin is a feminine noun, so the adjective is lenited.


Can you simply say "Maidin" as a greeting, just like how you can just "morming" as a greeting in English?


This sounds more french than most of the other words i have seen...


It sounds like "ma jeune voix" right? XD


is this acceptable without the indefinite article? Gaeilge doesn't feature -'a'


From the NEID:

good morning 1 interjection - hello
maidin mhaith
go mbeannaí Dia duit
mora duit ar maidin
Dia duit ar maidin


h isn't a letter, but a marker

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