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- "You close the gate."
"You close the gate."
Translation:Voi chiudete il cancello.
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Guys, because in English it's nearly impossible to distinguish one 'you' from another without sufficient context, please change this item! It's not clear that the exercise required the plural pronoun. Also, as another commenter has pointed out, items should be 'sensitive' to the distinction between 'Lei' and 'tu' (first' or second name basis in English, so to speak). Thank you
I find that this is good practice.
Anyway, the following are accepted translations.
• Chiudi il cancello.
• Tu chiudi il cancello.
• Chiudete il cancello.
• Voi chiudete il cancello.
• [ You close the gate. ]
:) KK
novembre 2019
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Thank you, but all these answers are in plural and the problem is: "how to distinguish" which one to use!
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Click on the underlined verb, if they mean the plural it will usually be the top or only hint
No, it's not by DL! I was marked wrong for saying : tu chiudi il cancello. And list a heart unfairly. They should say what they want from us.
Totally agree! It feels unfair to write "Chiudi cancello" then have it rejected! If voi is wanted, it should say "you all close the gate" . Besides, it may take a village to raise a child, but it certainly doesn't take one to close a fricken gate, so this is not intuitively obvious!!
For clarity, they should use US Southern vernacular, "All y'all shut the gate."
Hmmm...how do we tell if this was supposed to be the plural "you" for the singular "you"?
You cannot so both the singular answer and plural option should be correct and accepted.
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We realize that, but how do we distinguish that plural is what is required from the question as it is asked???
They only give one translation in the answer when you come to the forum page. But as of 8-Oct-2017, it takes "Chiudi il cancello" as a correct answer.
As of April 2019 they went back to rejecting my 'chiudi il cancello'. Not fair to English speakers, duolingo could indicate that they mean the formal 'You' or the plural 'You' (e.g., You (fml) or You (pl)), otherwise they should accept 'chiudi' as correct without argument.
Yes. Some languages always say 'you all' to make it clear that they want the plural.
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If you are supposed to answer the plural then when you click the underlined verb the plural will (usually) be the top or only hint
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I hardly ever click the hints when taking these lessons except when the word is in yellow. Are we suppose to/expected to click on all words before answering the question at hand??? Was there a set of instructions at the beginning of this course that I missed????
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Not that I know, I wasn't even instructed to click on 'tips' before doing lessons, but it sure is helpful. I'm just saying how to tell, although sometimes the hints (for the underlined words) are wrong.
When you speak Italian, unless it's with a good friend or family, you will always use the formal form. I answered with "Lei chiude il cancello." I could have left off "lei" but I wanted to be clear to DL that I was using the formal form. Not only is this correct, but it's the FIRST hint. I'm getting really fed up with DL counting off for clearly correct answers over and over again. If my response is incorrect in some other way, DL, tell me why so I can learn from my mistakes.
Argh, always translating "gate" as "porta". One of the few times when Latin knowledge is unhelpful.
It is? Oh, I didn't notice it. Hmm, probably an error, or (more likely) "porta" can also be used for "gate" as well as "cancello".
according to this it would have to be figurative ... the gates of success ...
http://www.wordreference.com/iten/porta
Worst part is that tje hover text suggests Tu chiudi and not Voi chiudete. Very frustrating and not intuitive.
when the english is given and it doesn't specify which "you" (s, pl) is wanted, both singular and plural responses should be accepted
I agree with Elizabeth,how are we suppose to know, there is no context... we can't read your mind dl...
Once again, if Duolingo wants the plural YOU, then for English speakers, please include the words YOU ALL. Then, and only then do we know we need to use VOI, not TU!
did not accept the singular version - come on Duolingo be more specific please, not good enough
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Argh..."fermi il cancello" is incorrect. I'm mixing up Italian "fermare - to stop" with French "fermer - to close"
Italian has the singular TU and the plural VOI but in English is the same form for the singular or to the plural YOU
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How on God's green earth am I supposed to know it wants plural you? Duo beware the angry dogs are at the gate.
Its really difficult to tell whether it is asking for the plural sense of "you" or the singular sense of "you." I feel like it should indicate that in the question (maybe by saying "You all close the gate"?)
Does DL look at these comments? This discussion has been going on for six years and they are valid. Come on DL!
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Why is chiudete la porta wrong when la porta is in the hints for the gate in literally this exercise
It must be a big mother of a gate to take more than one person to close it!
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Why isn't Tu chiudi correct? It shows singular. What is the Forum page? I haven't heard of it.
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where is the indication of the second person plural here ???????????????? second single person is perfectly right too here. DL DO something about this !
Why can't I say "chiusi il cancello"? How am I supposed to know whether the statement is addressed to mulitple "you" or whether the situation requires the formal "you"?
Tu chiudi il cancello is not accepted!!! Why would this have to be plural?
The goal should not be to confuse and disappoint the students. Both tu and voi should be accepted as correct
both chiudi and chiusi mean close on a lot of websites I've looked up, but I answered 'tu chiusi il cancello' and it was wrong. i put 'voi chiusete il cancello' and DL said it was a typo??
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No indication that this is plural so either tu or voi should be acceptable answers. Think someone needs to go through all of these types of questions as this is not the first time it's happened
Obviously the moderators disagree without explanation. The answer has not changed. Or nobody is moderating the site.
Why is chiude il cancello not accepted? Nowhere does it say you all close the gate, but the correct answer is always shown as voi chiudete.
I agree - "Lei chiude il cancello" (Lei = formal 'you') should be accepted.
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I think duo should accept "tu chiede~"..how are we supposed to know they want you or you all?
MAKE CLEAR THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN YOU SINGULAR AND YOU PLURAL PLEASE DUO!
I wonder whether this is aimed at younger people who use the informal as whenever I write suo it is wrong and puts tuo, etc.
It is perfectly correct to say "lei chiude il cancello", using the formal form of "you." It is even first in the dictionary hints. It is not useful for students to have a correct form marked wrong.
I think they want you to work out which is the correct one. Porta is door and cancello is gate. Hope that helps.
I don't know the current consensus on this answer. But I typed "Tu chiudi il cancello" and DL accepted it.
