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"The red woman."

Translation:An bhean dhearg.

September 2, 2014



Isn't 'rua' the colour for living things? So "An bhean rua" - shouldn't this be acceptable?


That would be the red-haired woman. I guess I was in my Game of Thrones mindset and answered an bhean dhearg without thinking...


Not just hair but anything in nature - land, seas, plants, hair...women!


I don't think the red woman was what we would consider "natural" :P


I answered with "rua" in accordance with the hint - appearing in top place, no less - and was marked wrong. So it seems like the word has been considered (enough to appear in the hint), and then rejected for this sentence specifically.

Anyone know why?


'An bhean rua' is 100% correct Irish for 'the red-haired woman.' The fault lies with Duolingo's idiotic sentences.


the notes state that an adjective that follows a feminine singular noun are lenited if possible. Surely this should be " an bhean dhearg" so?


So there's several rules coming into play here. One is called the "DENTALS" rule. Generally, after "d, n, t, l, s" the letters "d, t, s" are not lenited. However, this rule is violated when they're attributive adjectives (such as dearg in this case). Yet, because of the "dentals" rule, you'll often hear them go unlenited in colloquial speech. Either answer should be counted correct.

Source (Note: It's under the "special cases" section)


What's an attributive adjective?


In short, you are correct: it should be an bhean dhearg. It would be just "dearg" if the sentence were "the woman is red", as adjectives do not undergo any changes when you use them as such.

Quoting directly from p207 of the standard (available here: http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/media/Final-Version.pdf)...

Nóta:- ach amháin i gcomhfhocail agus i leaganacha seargtha, déantar na
gnáthrialacha faoi shéimhiú ar aidiachtaí a chur i bhfeidhm ar d, t, s i ndiaidh d, n, t, l, s

na báid dhubha an bhean dhílis áit dhorcha na poill dhoimhne na poirt dhúbailte an tsúil thinn an áit shalach an chos thinn maoin shaolta.

The normal rules of lenition should apply for adjectives as in the examples above.


Is this a pun for pink (bándearg) ?


No, it's bán (white) + dearg (red). Just like mixing paints.


When is a color lenited?


There aren't any special rules for colours - colours are lenited when they occur in circumstances that call for lenition. There is a brief outline of the circumstances that cause lenition in the Tips & Notes for the lenition skll.

As colours are mainly used as adjectives, they are generally lenited when they are used as an attribute of a feminine noun.


The night is dark and full of terrors.


Valar morghulis.


Yeah, I don't get what this sentence means in English.


Because she is Lady Melisandre.


WHY the change of spelling of red Dhearg/dearg in the sentence An bhean dhearg?


I'm sure this question is answered somewhere else on this page, but here's the rule again:

Just as feminine nouns following 'an' undergo séimhiú (bean --> bhean), so adjectives following feminine nouns also undergo séimhiú (dearg -->dhearg). So an fear bocht but an bhean bhocht.

One important note: If you are familiar with the 'rule' DoTS after DeNTaLS, which tells you when NOT to lenite, this 'rule' is not in effect with attributive adjectives (adjectives which directly follow the nouns they modify: the pretty view, a difficult lesson, my faithful friend, etc.), so you DO lenite even when the noun ends with an '-n' and the adjective begins with a 'd-'

Hope this helps.


Both attributive and predicative adjectives directly follow the noun in Irish.
tá an bhean bocht - "the woman is poor" - predicative
tá an bhean bhocht ag siúl - "the poor woman is walking" - attributive


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