Memrise course starting where Duolingo left?
Having heard the website memrise a few times on the discussion sections here in Duolingo, I decided to give it a try. To me it seemed like a great way to quickly expand your vocabulary after having mastered Spanish grammar (or any other language's grammar). What I found troubling though was that in does not really join well to duolingo. Some words that feature in relatively early stages of memrise courses never feature in duolingo, and some words that are being taught in the final lessons of duolingo are featured way further in the memrise course. Someone starting in the middle of a memrise course who has finished duolingo would miss some frequently used words and would have to "relearn" words he already knows. It would be cool if there could be a special "end of duolingo" course on memrise, or if a course could in some way be adapted.
Any thoughts or tips on how to overcome this problem?
Here´s the course in Duolingo spanish words. I do it simultaneously with Duo and the effects are great :) Memrise helps to remember the vocabulary, but doesn´t show how to use them in sentences - here´s where Duolingo comes in handy :) I strongly recommend to use them both in order to boost your learning experience.
I'm under the impression that anyone can create a set for Memrise. Have you thought of compiling one and making it available to other Duolingoers? I think it would be really cool. :)
Yes it's true that creating memrise courses can be done by anyone. I'll see how hard/time consuming it is. Anyone that wants to help would of course be welcome
If I may, I have some suggestions based on some shortcomings I noticed when taking the spanish course. There are several concepts that Duo introduces way too late in my opinion...
Ser vs. Estar - This needs to be introduced (in a very basic fashion, of course) at the very beginning to adapt the learner as soon as possible to the fact that To Be has two distinct verbs in spanish, and when to use which. I have seen many times the question asked "why is this sentence using the word esta' instead of es?" And I go on to explain that it is really 3rd person singular of estar vs ser, and link them to ser vs estar at LearnSpanish.com
Voy + a + Infinite - Is easy to use and lets you express simple future without conjugation
Object Pronouns - A tough concept at first but it should come earlier than DL intoduces it. It allows your spanish to sound more "real life" once you start speaking in that format.
Perfect Tenses - Haber + Past Participle - Very easy to grasp and use early on once a handful of basic verbs are learned. Lets you express immediate past, and past without conjugation other than Haber to the person.
Gustar and Verbs Like Gustar - Verbs that conjugate to the object as opposed to the person - muy importante!
Verbs Past - very useful to express yourself clearly, it should be introduced earlier imho
If I think of any more I will add them - my list is at work at the moment.
Good luck - if you create a course let the forums know!
I can't help but wonder if Duolingo is trying to begin user's experience by building their confidence first with much less frustration. I would imagine fewer people would have stuck with it if the course immediately jumped beginners into those.
To add on to this, there is likely a way to find a list of contrastive features in Spanish that are by nature more difficult for English-speaking students.
Is there a link to your set you could put so that those who want to help can easily find it?
Thank you for posting about Memrise, I just started it and it looks like a great site for learning Spanish in combination with Duolingo.
You could pick any Memrise course you want, and then go through and mark off any words you're not interested in studying through Memrise as ignore, and it won't test you on those.
You could also just plain take the memrise course, and remind yourself that if words are easy for you you'll never get them wrong and soon they won't show up for review very often.
Other than that, my suggestion would be to create your own course in either Memrise or Anki, that focuses on the words you personally want to know.
I see there are already a number of courses on Memrise that are invaluable! In particular one on Conjugation, which might just be my salvation http://www.memrise.com/course/122116/easy-spanish-conjugation/
- also lists of Spanish words by frequency of use. Very impressed!
Many, many thanks for the tip to try Memrise! Highly recommended!!!