https://www.duolingo.com/MzMolly65

pronouncing leabhar?

What is the correct pronunciation of leabhar?

I hear "low-ar" on the vocal but if the bh is broad should it not sound different?

I'm willing to admit I might not be hearing this correctly so looking for clarification.

4 years ago

12 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

Look here. As for which one to trust, use either Bríd (who speaks Connacht Irish, the most spoken dialect) or Lughaidh (who is using Ulster Irish).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MzMolly65

Thank you for the reminder .. I had seen that link before but forgotten about it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MzMolly65

Interesting to hear them each. Very slight variations but all basically saying low-er, lau-er, l'or and even y'or .

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

Indeed. But remember not to trust all of them. I know for a fact that Bríd is a native speaker, and I'm assuming Lughaidh is either native or near-native given his location and his presence on a plethora of Irish learning sites.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jillianimal

I think the w/v pronunciation of bh tends to vary with dialect. I also thought w is generally the broad sound for it =/

(though I still don't understand why ea = o here).

Maybe you should wait for a Native to clear it up...so nvm.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/emmetteen

Jillianimal is right. "W" is the is for the broad sound (a,o,u).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MzMolly65

I have a link that says the W is for slender and the V is for broad .. is my link incorrect? http://mike.eire.ca/2008/12/31/gaelige/

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/emmetteen

Yeah, they got that line of the table mixed up. That author has also misspelled Gaeilge!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MzMolly65

Thank you for clarifying that, I'll fix it on my table (and send you a lingot for editing). Did you happen to notice if the rest of the table is correct?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/emmetteen

I think the rest is right. I actually find tables like this a bit confusing because I'm so used to not thinking about rules for pronunciation! Also, tables like this are useful but I wouldn't be too surprised if these rules didn't apply in all cases.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MzMolly65

Well .. after listening to the vocals from the link galaxyrocker posted above .. no one says anything the way that table suggests they will, LOL! I pity the poor Irish who hear me fumble through their language.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

It really varies based on the dialect. Munster Irish, for example, uses "v" for everything.

4 years ago
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