"What do they want with this?"
Translation:Wat willen zij hiermee?
Could anyone explain the difference between hierbij and hiermee? Hierbij was marked incorrect for this sentence.. thanks
I'll come back to this lesson because I find these words too wierd to fathom at the moment. Maybe in the future they will make sense. How you get hiermee out of with this beats me
I paint with it = I paint therewith = ik schilder ermee
I paint with this = i paint herewith = ik schilder hiermee
I paint with that = i paint therewith = ik schilder daarmee
Think of old-fashioned English, or even modern English as used in legal documents -- lots of compounds like "herewith", "therewith", etc.
In Dutch when talking about things or directions (as opposed to people), they don't use preposition+pronoun. Instead, they use adverb+preposition.
That would be more like "what do they want with it", so not necessarily "this thing here".
I would also like to know why was "Wat willen ze hierbij?" marked wrong. What about, say, a side dish at the restaurant, or something like that that actually fits with "-bij"?
Is that not the entire system of Duolingo? That you always come across words that you might not yet know the meaning of?
I'm a little confused with the words starting with 'hier' since I thought it meant here. By 'this,' is it okay to think about it as 'the thing (er) that is here (hier)?' So by 'hiermee,' 'with(mee)' 'the thing that is here(hier)'? Sorry if that's confusing!
That's what I do - I think of hier+preposition as "preposition this thing here" (like Lenkvist said) and daar+preposition as "preposition that thing there". But I'm not a native Dutch speaker, so it's possible that I shouldn't be trusted.
I thought that with words like "wat" you have to use er somewhere? Does "hier" count as an er- word?
As I understand from Lenkvist, in these scenarios "er", "hier" and "daar" correspond to "it", "this" and "that". So "what do they want with IT?" is "wat willen zij ERmee?" while "what do they want with THIS" is "wat willen zij HIERmee?" (and "what do they want with THAT?" is "wat willen zij DAARmee?")