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In English, to "believe in" someone (rather than just "believe" someone) is more to have confidence in their ability and potential e.g. Jack may have failed his mock exams but I believe in him. To believe them (without the "in") just means I think they're telling the truth. Is there the same distinction in Italian?
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Yes: "I believe in the boy" = "Credo nel ragazzo", "I believe the boy" = "Credo al ragazzo".
Since "nel" also means "on" ("on the plate"), could it also be used in saying that you can count on someone?
'Nel' only means 'in'. In Italian they say 'in the plate' not 'on the plate' . Since English uses 'on the plate', though, duo translates it 'on the plate'. It's a meaning by meaning translation rather than a word for word translation :).
Listen up, Simon. Don't believe in yourself. Believe in me! Believe in the Kamina who believes in you!
Anybody could believe in you, if they were simply aware. But you do not need their awareness or belief to rise up yourself. These things would be only so useful as a motivation, but not a way to answer itself. Otherwise we'd have to depend on others all the way, meanwhile you could just start to believe in yourself (you don't even need "reasons" from the mind to make that move. Thoughts are not reality - action is. No need to depend on thoughts as well) and then... I'm not going to spoil that for you - that's where the magic happens ;)
I'm surprised greek is not on your study list on duolingo... you seem quite the phylosopher :)
I believe in you. You got this! I'm only level six in Italian and leve 2 in Spanish (as of now) and you're level 8 in Italian and level 2 in Spanish (a.o.n.). I believe!
I'm having a hard time learning when to use nel vs nella. Also, un vs una. No matter which word is correct, the audio always sounds like she is saying the 2 syllable word.
In Italian, it's not necessary to specify the subject because the conjugation of the verb makes it clear that I am the one doing something, or that you or we, etc. are doing something.
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You can't say "credo il ragazzo": you have to use it intransitively "credo al ragazzo". That's funny because, nevertheless, it has a passive form "il ragazzo non venne creduto". The only case I can think of where it can be used transitively is something like: "ho fatto quello che ho creduto giusto" (I did what I believed to be fair).
To s84606: the syntax "credo al" is not INtransitive, but transitive, because 'ragazzo' is actually the indirect object of the verbal form "credo". That's what I think. I ask anyone to correct me, if I am wrong. I hope I have helped. Greetings. January 19, 2016.
This comment has a lot of upvotes but it's actually wrong (see the comment by s84606 below). It's the same in Spanish. Here is a link with a more detailed explanation:
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random fact but in welsh believe is credu which helped me know this, this is soo weird ive never noticed much similarity between welsh and italian without it also being similar to english. Shows how useful it can be to know slightly obscure languages (i'm second language welsh)
Welsh and Italian are more closely related to each other than either is to English. The Romans remarked on the similarity between their Latin language and the Celtic language of the Gauls, but they never made much of the more distant connection between Latin and the Germanic languages.
Whoops! I menat to ask what the translation is for "I believe the boy" (as opposed to "I believe in the boy")
This comment has some upvotes but it's actually wrong (see the replies by s84606 to other comments). Here is a link with a more detailed explanation:
If it is only 1, it is a boy or a girl, if it is multiple people, you just say kids.
mmm... well I've been using kid instead of boy and no problems till now. and if I use kids with "ragazze" I get it wrong. I just think there was a problem with this phrase as it didn't let me use kid insted of boy.
'Ragazze' is specific to a group of girls. Mixed group of boys and girls would be denoted as 'i ragazzi'. Group of boys would also be 'i ragazzi'.
Only a group of girls would be 'le ragazze'.
More or less the same as in English, I guess. Not such a fine distinction.
Who else heard the lyrics "I can fly" in their head after writing "I believe"? Oldie but goodie!
what is the different between penso/pensa and credo? both of them mean believe and think. thanks btw
When I tried to pronounce "nel rigazzo" together I had difficulty making the transition from "l" to "r". Then I noticed that Duolingo includes a slight vowel sound in order to make the transition, and that made it much easier. Is this standard?
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Usually there is no vowel sound between the l and the r. But the transition is not so difficult: try pronouncing a long l, and meanwhile make the tip of your tongue slide toward the back of your mouth. You will automatically reach the correct position for pronouncing the "r".
Because 'nello' (like 'allo', 'sullo', etc.) is used only with nouns that take 'lo' rather than 'il': i.e., those beginning with 'z' (lo zio, lo zoo, lo zucchero) or 's' followed by a consonant (lo squalo, lo stadio, lo studente . . . ).
I answered this as "I beleive in the guy" but the answer was marked WRONG and the correct suggested answer was "I believe in the boy"!!! the word ragazzo was introduced as multiple meaning boy/guy/kid all over the other questions, why it's different in here?
I don't really understand this sentence. I prefer: I believe the boy or I believe this boy.
It doesn't mean that you believe he is being honest. It's more like "I have confidence in him".
Could be more correct to say in English "I trust on the boy" than "I believe in the boy", or they have the same sense?
I am okay with the structure of the sentence but have a difficult time hearing/decifering the word pronunciations. I replay multiple times but have the same issue. Wondering if anyone else has the same problem and if there us a solution.
