https://www.duolingo.com/24spokes

Duolingo is not working for me. Here's why.

I'm trying to learn Spanish and Duolingo is not working for me. It seems that Duolingo is practicing without learning. I get things wrong and I don't know why. I get things correct and it seems like I'm guessing. I try it, get frustrated, drop it, come back later, get frustrated again for the same reasons. The game-like score-oriented approach just shows how bad I am. I don't come away feeling like a learned anything. I don't even know what I should study to make use of the Duolingo practice sessions. Not inclined to use Duolingo any longer. Instead, think I'm going to use books and take some classes and talk to some real people. It won't be free. But free is loosing its luster for me. I'm going to try paying someone local for teaching and practice.

6/9/2013, 4:24:44 PM

18 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/kristinemc

Hi! Thanks for this honest feedback. It's good for us to hear what is not working for you. I'd say you definitely have to stick with Duolingo longer to get the most out of our approach (some more info on how we go about creating lessons: http://blog.duolingo.com/post/41960192602/duolingos-data-driven-approach-to-education). Have you completed more skills than Basics 1 in Spanish?

6/9/2013, 4:58:32 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/24spokes

more than basics 1? - no - i need teaching materials tied to the skill level tests - maybe a syllabus of what's to be tested so one could study beforehand and to understand mistakes

6/10/2013, 1:56:17 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/nighteyes

Did you try reading the opening page of the lessons? It has the explanations and examples you seek. In Basic 1 they give you info about: Masculine and Feminine Nouns, Accent Marks, The Second Person Singular, Verb Conjugation.

6/10/2013, 3:46:43 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/NickDanger3

" But free is loosing its luster for me" Watch it: if your luster gets too loose it will fall off.

6/9/2013, 6:02:32 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/24spokes

Spelling bees are exciting - said nobody ever.

6/10/2013, 1:51:46 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/peter_chant

Different people learn best using different methods. Personally I don't like Duo's method of teaching grammar by osmosis.I get a bit hot under the collar every time something new is thrown in and I lose a heart because it was not explained in advance. However, I really like duolingo as a secondary resource. I value the repetition. My primary resource is a set of lesson books that start each lesson with grammar. You may need to try different approaches to find what works best for you.

6/10/2013, 2:22:07 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/profelevi
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I really wanted to just add that as a Spanish instructor myself I think that Duolingo is an excellent supplemental tool. It's free, it gives lots of repetition, it provides an organized layout that shows what you do and do not understand, and most importantly it gives you lots of rich visual and audio language "input". I wouldn't give up on it. Instead, make a list of all of your favorite Spanish learning tools (including Duolingo) and use all of them to your advantage when designing your own Spanish studies. ¬°Buena suerte!

6/9/2013, 5:56:16 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/24spokes

but it does not explain that you are screwing up a particular kind of conjugation - that's something humans are good at; but if it was turned around so that it starts by listing what is to be tested, then you'd know how to prepare and where to go to review when the mistakes start piling up

6/10/2013, 2:09:31 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/rocko2012
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No matter what approach you use, how much you learn will mostly boil down to total hours spent studying. That will be at least 1000 hours of effort to reach C2 level.

6/9/2013, 6:03:11 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/profelevi
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Rocko, random question. I see you're at level 25. Can you even go any further than that on Duolingo?

6/9/2013, 6:41:30 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Lenkvist
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No, 25 is currently the maximum for every language.

6/9/2013, 7:07:41 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/profelevi
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Interesting, so if you arrive to 25 then you can still work on your language tree and translations but you won't gain any more points?

6/9/2013, 8:49:30 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Lenkvist
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You will still gain points, but it doesn't affect your level.

6/9/2013, 8:50:40 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/profelevi
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Thanks for the explanation!

6/9/2013, 8:55:03 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/24spokes

Is that some proficiency level with the diplomatic core? My aspirations are probably far below C2 and will probably take much longer than expected. Don't underestimate how badly I can screw this up.

6/10/2013, 2:03:04 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/rocko2012
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It is from here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_European_Framework_of_Reference_for_Languages Yeah I might not ever reach that level and I'm a world class screw up too :) My point was learning a second language is a bit of a challenge no matter how you do it.

6/10/2013, 3:30:31 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Adrianrconant

Hi guys, if someone is learning Spanish and wants to practice it further, please feel free to add me as a friend. I am learning German, I speak English, Japanese and Spanish. I am from Tijuana, Mexico. Thanks Duolingo for all this. Regards!

6/9/2013, 7:38:50 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/redneckray

Don't give up, change yer approach. The "lessons" are mostly tests, they let you find what you need to learn, the internet will help you and then you will easily pass the lessons. I use a translating program to learn the definitions and correct my terrible spelling. I use several Spanish teaching sites to un-hassel specific problems. In college I was taught to spend two hours out of class fer every hour in class it certainly forces you to decide if the game is worth the candle...then if you decide to quit it won't be a failure but a choice.

6/10/2013, 12:30:56 AM
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