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  5. "Mí Mheán Fómhair nó mí Dheir…

" Mheán Fómhair Dheireadh Fómhair."

Translation:September or October.

September 29, 2014



Do "Mheán" and "Dheireadh" mean anything on their own? ("Fómhair" apparently means "fall/autumn")


Yes: meán is “middle”, and deireadh is “end”.


Shouldn't it be 'Mheáin' and 'Dheiridh' or is the genitive not needed here (as it would be in English - 'the month of September')?


It's actually a double genitive: the genetive statement Mí Mheán Fómhair also contains the genitive statement Meán Fómhair. When you make a genitive out of a genitive statement, lenite the first word of the original genitive statement. Thus you have: meán + fómhar = Meán Fómhair (gen. 1), then mí+(Meán Fómhair) = Mí Mheán Fómhair (gen 2)


Is it just me, or are Mheáin and Dheireadh pronounced as if Mh and dh aren't there? I'm hard of hearing from birth and lipread a lot, so seeing someone speak these would help A LOT; but without that, can anyone at least explain how these sounds are made? Le do toil agus go raibh maith agat!

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Mh is pronounced as a "w" or a "v" depending on context and dialect - it's a "v" in this recording.

I remember coming across a site that described Irish pronunciation in terms of tongue positions a few years back, but I can't find it now.

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