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  5. "Itheann sibh bhur ndinnéar."

"Itheann sibh bhur ndinnéar."

Translation:You eat your dinner.

September 30, 2014



And where I'm from we might say, "Y'all eat y'all's dinner."


Oh yeah, thinking "y'all" for "sibh" helps so much with the difference between the you's


We should get "yinz" and "yunz" in here too!


"Y'all's" is awesome! Also, those of us who grew up without a clear second person plural could really use the reinforcement, so i think all the examples should use "y'all" etc. too!


You's lot, youse, you guys. Love 'em.


I was going to say the same thing. I don't know why y'all's isn't more common in English. Extremely precise!


In the southern region of the US ?


Similarly, "yous eat your dinners"


Surely the lovely hiberno English word that is "Ye" should be accepted for your (plural)!


A plural for "you" (as subject) at least. That's exactly what it was in late middle/early modern English. The plural of "thee"


A little late on the response, but "you", the object form, was the plural of "thee", the singular object. "Ye" was the subject form, and the plural of "thou", the singular subject.


Yis eat yisser dinner.


That would be 'ye are'. I've seen it spelled 'yer'.


Am I the only one who thinks this language is crazy?


How is that here they write 'ndinnéar' without a hyphen, since the tips&notes say you always have to use hyphen after n letter. Is it a departure from the rule?


Hm, that was observant. I guess it's a mistake in the example, or perhaps this hyphen-rule applies only when the noun begins with a vowel.


Maybe, but careful reading of tips now brings me to this:

<pre> Words starting with a vowel Words that start with a vowel do not technically undergo eclipsis, but they do get the letter n- added to them wherever other words would be eclipsed — unless they come after a word that finishes with the letter n. A dash is placed between the letter n and the vowel — unless that vowel is a capital letter. </pre>

They don't write anything about n with dash in case of consonants...


Exactly so. We were mistaken in confusing what they call "the n-prefix" with Eclipsis, which always applies to nouns beginning with a consonant that is liable to be eclipted ('d' is one such), in a situation where it ought to do (plural possessive is one such). So "n" is here the "n" of the eclipsis, not the "n" ("n-") that precedes nouns beginning with a vowel when used with plural possessives.


There's no audio, but I suppose 'ndinnéar' is pronounced like 'dinnéar', but with an 'n' instead of a 'd' (as if it was spelled 'ninnéar')?


Y'all or you all gets my vote.


You never heard the song "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, Let Nothing Ye Dismay...."


Ye've never heard the word ye? Ye must've heard the word ye somewhere.


Is this a statement (as in 'you are eating...) or a command (imperative)? Can it be both or does the imperative of a verb take a different form?


It’s indicative, not imperative. The imperative would be Ithigí bhur ndinnéar!


Why is n in front of "dinnéar"?


Because bhur causes eclipsis, and d is eclipsed by n.


Duolinguists 300 years from now will be scratching their heads over what this even is. I don't think I've EVER heard someone seriously use the word "ye" in my life (as a native english speaker, too!)


Ye (pural you / y'all) is quite commonly used here on Ireland. I'd very rarely ever use you (pural), but we do use hiberno English


I hear ye or yiz said all the time by native English speakers. I use it myself more than "you" for second person plural.


In ireland we would actually say "ye eat ye're dinner!


The only pronoun it accepted for sibh in an earluer lesson was Ye. Now it says it wrong.... Jeez


Why is the "sibh" here? In all my past lessons, "itheann" was used by itself, so why is it appended in this particular case?


The sibh is there because it’s the sentence’s subject. Itheann can’t be used by itself (excepting an “echoform” response to a question); ithim and ithimid are used by themselves, though.


How would you pronounce this? In my head it's "itheann shiv wur ninnear", but I'm confused as to when bh is pronounced like v or like w.


The "bh" in "bhur" begins with a "w" sound (close to "were"), but I don't know how ndinnéar would be pronounced either.


The"n" as a prefix...what is the rule?


Plural possessive adjectives eclipse the noun that they apply to. You can read about how eclipsis works in the Tips & Notes for the Eclipsis skill.

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