Hints and tips for the use of Duo
Here is a compilation of hints and tips I find myself posting frequently. I hope they are helpful and that others will add to them. Many I've gained through experience and even more from other users whom I thank. Most can be found in the Guidelines posted below.
Hover Use the HOVER DROP DOWN HINTS pass your cursor over a word and a list of translations will appear.
- Here's an important tip: usually it's the first word shown that is the most suitable for that sentence!
Here is a very good dictionary/translation site with several dictionaries and a huge list of language pairs:
Tips You'll find grammar and vocabulary help for most skills in the Tips & notes on the Home Page. Click on TIPS at the start of the lesson and it will take you to the "Tips & notes.
- On the comment section always read the previous comments. Not only might you find the answer to your question, you will get loads of help, explanations, references and a good deal of humor.
- If you think Duo is wrong (hasn't accepted your correct translation, has a grammar or other error etc) use the Report a Problem or Support options. See the guidelines to find them.
- Bookmark these two Guidelines and refer to them often. They'll answer a lot of questions and make things so much easier:
Official Duolingo Community Guidelines .... (https://www.duolingo.com/guidelines). <
Here is the Guideline we've all been waiting for:
Best wishes and enjoy learning.
This is insightful and profoundly valuable commentary. I can testify that jaye16 lives by these principles. To me, probably the most important point is the content of the item called "Unnecessary changes." I have no doubt that jaye16 speaks for our community's most skilled, dedicated, and knowledgeable collaborators. I am afraid that those who most need to read these guidelines — the trolls and gamers — are the least likely to do so. Here are 50 lingots.
Thank you so much for your encouraging words. My head is getting so big I'll lose my balance. And the oh so generous lingots. Ah, yes I know what you mean that those who most need the guidelines will not read them. Perhaps, if they are served such a site with so much staunch support it'll get through. And as a final benefit it will be easier to paste the site rather than repeatedly type out the ideas. I've been told the format needs work to make it more readable any ideas would be a great help.
jairapetyan I have found the first chapter of "I'm a Stranger Here Myself". Many thanks to efisgpr for suggesting it. I'm planning to read it tonight.
The one by Bill Bryson? Yeah, it's great. I think I've read all his books. My favorite remains, "A Walk in the Woods." It's fun to hear him narrate it too. You have to read the book first though, because his narration is an abridged version. For the unabridged audiobook they employed a professional, who isn't so funny!
jaye that was really nice of you to put the link to the first chapter so that anyone reading these comments can get hooked on Bill Bryson! :) Great reading, and this particular book will be of special interest to English learners, since it deals with both American and English cultures.
jairapetyan I though you'd like it. I'm looking forward to getting the book. I like Bill Bryson and have read other books. Thanks for the info on "A Walk in the Woods" it's on my list of must reads. Also, "Mother Tongue" I just can't keep away from books about language. Be well.
Many of us do but it is not compulsory. Not using 'got' to indicate possession is not an error. Use 'got', that is. Not accept 'gotten', that's plain wrong in written modern British English. It's antiquated. It does exist in some country dialects but they are dying out fast, sadly.
I was not referring to "Have you got" vs. "Do you have." I was saying that Americans believe the past participle of "get" is "gotten." In America one would say, for example, "She had gotten it earlier;" which at least used to be considered wrong in British English. Btw, I taught for many years at the British Institutes and the British Council.
Perhaps it would be better if I asked that in a question format rather than make an assumption; so here it is: do the British tolerate or ever use the word "gotten?" Returning to America after decades of teaching British English, "gotten" sounded so wrong to me. Now I have become accustomed to it, but I still say "got" myself.
As far as I remember it's a resounding "no". It's not so much not tolerating as never even knowing it existed. I had an English teacher (from England I mean) who asked me "where did the students get that word"? She was fully qualified to teach EFL but had never heard it. :-)
To jairapetyan, the answer to your question is that no, we British do not use the word "gotten". As for do we tolerate it, I wouldn't use the word tolerate as it indicates that we disapprove but put up with it, used by an American English speaker, we just accept that's what they say and for them, its both natural and correct but for a British English speaker, we would just think they were either wrong, or using dialect.
jaye16: your English teacher was a little ignorant of history then! While in modern British English 'gotten' isn't used (except in 'ill-gotten gains') it was normal centuries ago. Remember that America was colonised a long time ago and in some respects their speech reflects this archaic form of English. Of course, I'm not saying they're backward! ;)
Here is a searchable Shakespeare concordance. Apparently the total count is 5 occurrences, of which 4 seem to mirror modern American use. http://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/search/search-keyword.php
I note in passing (for the avoidance of doubt) that Americans do use both "I have got" and "I have gotten." They're just not synonyms.
@piguy3: Nice resource - thanks for the link. I had noted from https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gotten the distinctions in meaning.
A wonderful reminder Luscinda. Indeed, I will remember to point and to laugh. I promise I will never punch my dear workhorse of a computer no matter how dumb I "have got" on days. Sadly I've completely given up on anything being done about the rogue point and tier grubbing translators running roughshod, making unnecessary changes, over somebody's genuine and careful effort; and particularly the machine translation "pasters" of 2-4 sentences scattered within a wide variety of uploads so it tends to slip under the radar. My notifications about these prolific "Machine Pasters" have all fallen seemingly into a black hole, unacknowledged, and the situation in every serious case still remaining unremediated. Yes indeed, "don't take this site too seriously" is good advice for the times when I feel a bit of a grumpysaurus.
Generally good tips, although I think you should probably organize them better. It may be hard to understand what guidelines you are referring to since the text is coming up after the link.
Also the most important tip I'd suggest to anyone using a computer or website of any sort is to first search before asking a question. If you post first, you may wait a long time to get an a response, people may not even answer it at all if it is too repetitive, and you may get down-voted to oblivion if your post is a FAQ( and has been answered).
I would add to the paragraph regarding the hover function, that what pops up are only the most common translations and sometimes the correct word needed in a particular context does not appear at all. If something doesn't make sense try looking it up in Word Reference.com or even Google Translate.
Ah, yes very good ideas. There is also: >http://www.lexilogos.com/english/italian_translation.htm# With many sites and a huge list of language pairs.
Nope nothing of the sort. Maybe some have been around longer that's the only difference. Don't put yourself on the sidelines better to jump in. You won't drown 'cause there are people around ready to help out. And don't forget on Duo you have no one to answer to. So, relax and enjoy.
About the comments - if you have a really funny quip to insert, check to see if someone else posted it already. If they did, upvote it to the sky, comment on it to make it funnier, and maybe even give the person a lingot. No, a comment like "cool," "ya," or "LOL" will not necessarily make it funnier (unless it's unexpected or part of a joke). Incredibly smart comments generally follow the same rules as incredibly funny ones. And if you happen to be taking French, know that I got yelled at by Sitesurf (one of the French moderators) for making funny comments