Weekly Incubator Update: Tracking Progress from September 27th to October 5th
The two pieces of big news this week are:
With over 99% completion, the Czech course is all set for going beta in the coming days.
Last week we had agreed to use the PUB vs the PUC numbers (see below) for the Hungarian course. This change gives them a huge boost and they are now being reported as 57% complete for the beta phase.
In other news, there has been out pour of support for the Russian Course which has not displayed progress for the last few weeks. As a contributor for a course myself, I can say that it is the support of the community with keeps the course teams going. On behalf of my fellow incubator team - Team Russian - much appreciated!
The results for the fourth unofficial Duolingo poll conducted by krispykracker are out. While there is a Nordic trend, Latin, Hebrew, and Persian too seem to have interest within the active community.
There is another poll for all Duolingo European languages, current and future, being conducted by TrioLinguist. German, French, and Italian are in the lead as of now. I too am working on my German learning these days, so it is nice to discover to be with the majority :)
PHASE 1 Progress:
English for Czech - 91% | 94% | 96% | 99% (+3)
Swedish for English - 85% | 87% | 90% | 93% (+3)
Italian for French - 67% | 75% | 82% | 87% (+5)
English for Thai - 73% | 73% | 73% | 74% (+1)
Hungarian for English - 18% | 19% | 20% | 57% (+37) ^*
Russian for English - 40% | 40% | 40% | 40% (+0)
German for Turkish - 34% | 34% | 37% | 39% (+2)
Turkish for English - 18% | 21% | 23% | 25% (+2) ^
French for Portuguese - 12% | 14% | 17% | 17% (+0)
Esperanto for English - 4% | 9% | 15% | 17% (+2)
German for Italian - 3% | 7% | 9% | 11% (+2)
Polish for English - 7% | 7% | 7% | 7% (+0)
Romanian for English - 4% | 6% | 6% | 6% (+0)
Ukrainian for English - 1% | 1% | 3% | 6% (+3)
Average Weekly Progress: +2.60% | 1.87% | 2.21% | 4.29%
* This week's Leader Extraordinaire
^ The Turkish & Hungarian teams' progress is per their own calculation.
Here are the updates from the contributing teams posted during the last week:
hideki from Team Japanese wrote 6 days ago:
hideki san, this is the only thing that I have to say: I look forward to your reverse course so that I will be able to read and understand what you wrote. Right now, I can barely understand 100 kanji characters and I am very rusty :(
Nitram15 from Team Hungarian wrote a few minutes ago:
First things first, sorry for being late with the update :/ It was a busy week and today is no exception too.
We have some amazing news for you, let's start with the most amazing one: two new members. That's right, after a short hiring process, please let me introduce Sztadiand AndrsBrny. :) Feel free to post something on their stream!
So as of today the active builders of the Hungarian for English speakers course are:
Now, let's see what you guys really want to know about: progress. This was a rather slow week, primarily because of hiring and RL problems. Completed words: 1724 (+44 compared to last week). We are still building Chapter 8 (dealing with pronouns and multiple possessions).
- PUB (percentage until beta) --> 57% (+2)
- PUC (percentage until completion) --> 20% (+0)
In case you don't understand what PUB and PUC is, please read our previous update (Progress Update 2014/09/28) -- for those reading this in jitengore's post: you can find our previous updates here (scroll down)
That's all for now, thanks for reading. See you next week :D
Nitram15, the tracker has moved to the PUB this week. :) That gives a boost to your course's reported progress. The change of criterion makes your course the Leader Extraordinaire, a feat that your team deserves for being so great with communication on top of all the hard work!
jitengore from Team Hindi wrote a few minutes ago:
Beta Week 24: Course progress
आने वाले सप्ताह में हमारे हिंदी से अंग्रेज़ी पाठ्यक्रम के विद्यार्थियों की संख्या 2 लाख से अधिक होने वाली है। आपके उत्साह और सहयोग के हम सदैव आभारी हैं। अगले सप्ताह अधिक विस्तारपूर्वक...
In the coming week, the student count for our English from Hindi course will exceed 200,000. We are always thankful for your enthusiasm and support. Next week with more details...
साप्ताहिक पाठ्यक्रम प्रगति - Weekly Course Progress.
TL;DR Good progress across the board this week. The overall average number got boosted to above 4 (4.29%) mainly due to the new standard adopted for the Hungarian course's progress. Now this course seems much closer to the beta phase reducing the wait for us learners.
The next update is expected on Sunday, 12th of October at 4:00 pm UTC.
Previous Update 20-Sep to 27-Sep
Team Russian, have you considered releasing a portion of your tree such as how Team Hungarian and Team Turkish are planning to? I'm not sure how feasible for the Russian course since I don't know exactly how the contributors have it set up but now that Team Duolingo has released the tree versioning feature, this is now technically feasibly. (Hopefully Shady_arc will read this and comment.)
Releasing part of the tree could work out nicely for a lot of reasons.
For the users.
Users (myself included) are dying to take the Russian for English course! Unfortunately the work on the reverse course is taking up all the contributors' time. Putting in a (possibly) small amount of time to finalize the first part of the tree and releasing it could tide users over and give them a great foundation for starting their Russian language journey!
For the course.
No course is perfect from the beginning. Feedback is a critical component of improvement. With part of the tree released, users could start to improve it by 1. providing valuable usage data to the course contributors and Team Duolingo, 2. providing corrections to anything the contributors may have missed while creating the course, and 3. providing feedback in the forums.
The fact that Duolingo allows courses to crowdsource feedback and corrections through taking the course is fantastic and utilizing it early could provide a lot of benefit! As the popular (and useful!) software philosophy states, "release early, iterate often".
Given the huge community support Team Russian continually receives, I know I'm not the only one that wants to help. Let's show Team Russian that we'd love for part of the course to released so we can start improving it together!
Still no movement on the Polish front :( I had high hopes for this week, since the new contributors were announced not long ago
I hope Norwegian, Latin, and/or Hebrew makes it to stage 1 soon! Norwegian has a great Ivona TTS.
One reason I'm excited by the Hungarian progress is that I'm guessing Finnish will use the Hungarian tree as their base, so any progress made by Hungarian is one step closer to Finnish.
I would doubt it. The languages, although related, are still very far apart in a lot of fundamental areas. Finnish would probably still need to structure its own tree from the ground up.
I agree. Icelandic and Hindi are technically related languages as well, but their similarities are few.
Yes, as a native Finnish speaker who is a bit familiar with Hungarian, I can't see that the Hungarian tree would be useful for us. Unfortunately.
Thanks a lot jiten for the update! :D And thanks for making us leader extraordinaire, I'm pretty sure it won't happen again so we need to celebrate this.
By the way, it's fun to see how our 37% "progress" increased the average progress so enormously... It must be an all time record.
I was just wondering whether or not to point out that a better summary statistic of progress would be the median rather than the mean. :P
I wish Esperanto could have maintained its progress from the last week when they increased by 6%, or at least reach 20% to be able to accept more contributors so they can advance faster.
Awww. Don't worry, we'll get to 20% fast enough. It's not a race. :) This last week was one of my busiest all year, so I'm afraid I didn't have much spare time for Duolingo. :(
Thanks and lingot for the update, Jiten. Think the "leader extraordinaire" award has become a bit silly, at least this week. Calculation method alone seems to have "earned" the title.
Yes last week itself, we had predicated this to happen. And honestly, they do deserve the honor based on their keeping us informed of their progress. :)
From the Japanese knowledge that I have, I think hideki is talking about the number of reports per user. Currently its around 10 and it needs to get to 2.
Hmm, Hungarian might come out this week I assume? If they're releasing it 2% from now, it might even come out today!
As scarcerer said, it is unlikely that we finish the task until the end of this month but I am more than sure that we will reach beta before the end of the year :) Please bear with us, it's hard and long work.
Mind you, ReidHT you should read our previous update in case you haven't done so. As I've told somebody else last time, imagine our course building progress as a journey. We stand at the 57% of this 'journey'.Last week we stood 55% of the journey which means that we progressed merely 2%, and there is still 43% of the journey to be done.
By the way, we are expecting a boost this week, now that we have two more people on board and can spend more time on building :) Stay tuned!
I thought it was going to be released in Beta in 2%, though? I'm really confused...
No, no, no... Our progress increased by 2% compared to last week, from 55% to 57%.
Oh. Thanks for telling me! Hmm, I suppose Swedish will be the next one out then. Maybe.