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WHERE IS THE BAR???

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Sad to see the bar showing my progress on the home page for each language go away today...and now the owl is in a track suit, asking me to set a goal, which for me is a non issue, as I'm on DUO daily working on my languages.

I MISS THE BAR. Any chance its coming back?

3 years ago

103 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/charlotte_12

Please bring back the bar and the chart per language as it was before. Perhaps you could consider to add a third button 'Set your Daily Goal' under the buttons 'Strengthen skills' and 'Real world practice'.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pablovimo
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I agree... “Daily goal settings” can be helpful, but the level, the number of points of each level and the number of points already done on each level are really very helpful too, as long as they allow us to distribute the number of times we repeat each lesson and each skill, considering that we have to obtain 30,000 points to get to the 25th level of each language. For example: knowing that, we know that we have some 400 points available for each one of the more or less 75 skills.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PeelOfShame
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Bigger issue to me - I have four languages that I'm working on. The way it used to be, I could see my individual progress daily in each language. (As I do in the iPhone app.) I can't tell if I 'missed' a language with the new graph... and I'm sure I'm not the only one who tries to squeeze in a lesson here and there through the day, and might accidentally forget a language.

And yes, I've 'missed' a language more than once. (Usually German, actually...)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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I've got that same issue, and am learning four myself, and one outside of DUO..so that one I do because its not on DUO...however the other four...are at issue for me as well. That bar is far too important for me, and it sounds like to you..for them to just let it disappear. Also, you didn't have to click or work to see that info, you just held your cursor over it...and knew from the popup. Very bad decision, not having it in there. I like the new, but I need that bar back.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pablovimo
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I agree... “Daily goal settings” can be helpful, but the level, the number of points of each level and the number of points already done on each level are really very helpful too, as long as they allow us to distribute the number of times we repeat each lesson and each skill, considering that we have to obtain 30,000 points to get to the 25th level of each language. For example: knowing that, we know that we have some 400 points available for each one of the more or less 75 skills.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/liamtbrand
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The individual progress is what I miss/need most too. I was using Duolingo for my duke of Edinburgh skill and now I will have problems because I only want to track my Spanish progress for that, but now I can't learn the other languages without messing up the recording of my Spanish progress... Which means I can't use Duolingo for other languages until I finish the course which for me still requires 10 months of commitment... Please let me know if there is still a way to see my individual progress! Thanks :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ariaflame
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Do you use any of the apps? Though they may have taken it away in the latest. I can't tell.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/liamtbrand
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Oh I hadn't thought about that, I just checked and you can still see individual language progress there, so hopefully they don't remove that! - However I still believe that the progress should be shown individually on the website as it is a nuisance to have to use the app to see your individual language progress, especially when it's a useful feature that is already implemented on the web version. Anyway, thanks for the tip! xD

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OrchidBlack
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It's not in my android app. I have no way of knowing now where I am in regard to leveling up.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ariaflame
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The coach on the app at least can tell me which one I haven't done yet. But argh.. want to be able to tell on the web too. And now it's going all over the place, it was briefly the same whether I was in Italian or French, now it's showing 20 points today for French, but I haven't done any yet (to my memory or Coach's). Sorry, showing 20 for everything but I could have sworn I did a lot more than that yesterday than what it is showing. Although apparently I'm still seeing the bar.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Salas85

Same for me. Nineteen xp already although I haven't practiced today. I don't know where they come from, but at least the bar still gives the appropriate number. My own daily xp goal is exactly 100xp and I need to compare the bar and the coach xp to make sure that at the end of the day it's exactly 100 xp. Does anyone know where do the additional xps come from?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/melody-r
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I agree! The individual progress was really useful... and now I can't tell which language I practice most... and the goals... it's really nice, but 50xp is like nothing to me, I work on my laguages daily and I have more than that. Mostly.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Angelastic

Same here, and I have a goal of 50xp per language set in the iPad app, while the web interface only has a maximum of 50 overall. I think I'll just set my goal to 1xp on the website (since I'm a bit afraid that this goal is now used to determine whether my streak is continued, and there is the occasional day when I only have time for a few points) and continue to use the iPad app to see whether I'm reaching my language goals. But now I can't see how close I am to the next level. :(

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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Seriously, how does one know where one is relative to the number of points needed to level up? Taking away the bar at the top, removes the only way I know of to gauge where one is in the total needed...(1500, 1000, etc.)

BRING THAT BAR BACK, or put in some other way to get that important info that is missing now.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MrHazard
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Like others, the setting of a goal is a non-issue as I'm on Duolingo each day (with a 295-day streak so far). However, I try to keep my study of French and Spanish parallel, so without the bar this is awkward.

Go for the goal thing as an option for sure, but the bar should be a fixture!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pablovimo
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I agree... “Daily goal settings” can be helpful, but the level, the number of points of each level and the number of points already done on each level are really very helpful too, as long as they allow us to distribute the number of times we repeat each lesson and each skill, considering that we have to obtain 30,000 points to get to the 25th level of each language. For example: knowing that, we know that we have some 400 points available for each one of the more or less 75 skills.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MrHazard
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Right on! You seem to work like I do, trying to keep the different languages in some kind of parallel.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pablovimo
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I did until I finished the four trees. I'm not now: I actually prefer to strengthen each skill by repeating it several times (usually, over twenty times) before starting to strengthen the next one and working every day on the same language towards the 25th level. That's how I reached the 25th level in German first and that's how I'm trying to reach it in Portuguese now. By the way: German and Portuguese are the only two languages I learned as an adult and, consequently, the weakest ones, though Portuguese is easier and I remember everything better than in German.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MrHazard
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That's really impressive! I haven't finished any trees yet, but my French is stronger than my Spanish ( learned some French in school and took a couple of courses as an adult). I moved far too fast at first, so I went back to a comfortable skill level and, like you, I now spend most time strengthening skills I've achieved. I don't move on until a skill is firmly in my permanent memory. Eventually I'll get back the last section that I haven't tackled yet and I'll move into new material.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Le_Sparky
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The Bar is very important indeed. I thought at first I messed up the setting somehow but somewhat relieved to find that it's not just me. Hopefully, with enough noise, the support team on Duo will work towards getting it back on the home page. Going to send them a note now...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/c.h.milor
<h1>BRINGTHEBARBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</h1>
3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rafaelbisoffi
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Yes, it is very bad if you are learning more than one language, they have to bring the bar back. It is possible to keep the new coach AND the bar.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/c.h.milor

I know! I used to be learning 4 (but then I stopped, because I couldn't) and I can't imagine the trouble you must be having with 7 languages. I really don't know why they can't keep both.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rafaelbisoffi
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I just don't know how much XP I need to reach the next level. And the coach is not very useful to me, because I naturally reach more points than the maximum daily goal due to the number of languages I am studying.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AdrianJosh
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it would be good if both are kept! I wanna see the bar hanging around!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pablovimo
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I agree... “Daily goal settings” can be helpful, but the level, the number of points of each level and the number of points already done on each level are really very helpful too, as long as they allow us to distribute the number of times we repeat each lesson and each skill, considering that we have to obtain 30,000 points to get to the 25th level of each language. For example: knowing that, we know that we have some 400 points available for each one of the more or less 75 skills.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AdrianJosh
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points on the next level to beat it makes it more fun to watch out and also the word count. i agree! did you achieve all those levels in 194 days?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pablovimo
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I did. The day streak is still working well in my homepage (it is not in others). But I already knew the four languages before. I only wanted to strengthen the basics of them before trying to learn a little bit of other languages, like Dutch or Dannish, for instance.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AdrianJosh
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ah you just took a placement exam and brushed up on all of those that's why you just have 194 days? that's great! :D

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pablovimo
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No. I didn't jump lessons or skills. I've done all of them.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hdcanis
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Yes, bring back the bar and the words. Those were more motivating factors, I was doing this coach thing mentally anyway so that's completely useless feature for me.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hdcanis
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Oh, and I know that it's quite typical that whenever some change is made, it gets a bunch of unhappy complaints even if the new form is actually better.

But I think this time the change is actually worse.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/practice2

Please bring back a separate bar for each language! Those of us doing more than one language would like to track out progress in each separately. One language my be an occasional review and the other a daily learning experience.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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The lack of anyone from the DL team commenting on this post disturbs me.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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I want to speak to this topic directly. I posted the same topic, using the same language as this post, on the Main DUOlingo forum, and they deleted my post as soon as TONS of users began responding negatively to the removal of the bar. There is another post over there about XP levels, which I am told now is the same as the progress bar, but I didn't even know that feature was called XP levels. Many many users have said the same thing, and have responded to this post saying they would like to see the progress bar reinstituted, and for me it really matters in terms of my learning the four languages I work on daily...

I am left feeling as if they keep deleting that post from the main discussion area because they realize there is a lot of negative feeling about the changes, and they just don't want to have that discussion. In short, it disturbs me that no one from the DL team is commenting on this post as well. It also disturbs me that they delete my topic from the main DL Forum, where it was getting a lively response, and people were saying the same thing I was saying.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Angelastic

It might be because this was posted in the French section rather than the Duolingo section. It would probably be better to comment/vote on https://www.duolingo.com/comment/4889872 to make it more visible, instead of this thread which only French learners are likely to see.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Butono14
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PLEASE bring back the bar!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SuperDescartes

I agree with everyone else here, the bar is FAR more integral than the daily goals thing, the bar motivated you far more and gave you an idea of where you are at while also givign duolingo that video gamey addictiveness where you just need to get more points and you know why and how many!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MrHazard
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Je Duolingo donc il doit y avoir un bar.

Je suis d'accord. We all want to go back to the bar! There's a party at the bar, Everybody put your glasses up and I'll drink to that! Boir pour ça...Remenez le bar.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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reconnaître le bar!!!! C'est tres bon.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Atrikore

I agree, please bring back the bar. I'm not saying to get rid of this, but at least keep the old part too. I want to know how many more points I need to get to the next level for each language I do. While we're at it, can we please bring back the word count as well?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adder3
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I am totally demotivated without the bar. I only do one language but seeing my progress along the bar was my motivation. I have different amounts of time each day I can allocate to duolingo so a flat daily goal is of no interest to me. BRING BACK THE BAR

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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BRING BACK THE BARR!!!!!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/c.h.milor
<h1>BRING BACK THE BAR!!!!! say it with a hashtag</h1>
3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/john_treehugger
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Bring back the Bar!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/no.name.42
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It's just a beta test so hopefully they will fix it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ReidHT
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I also want to be able to see how many words I've learned. Also I think the 'start next lesson' button needs to be brought back, I bet it was really useful. I think I had it for my first days on Duolingo but I took it for granted.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pablovimo
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I also agree with you... “Daily goal settings” can be helpful, but the level, the number of points of each level and the number of points already done on each level are really very helpful too, as long as they allow us to distribute the number of times we repeat each lesson and each skill, considering that we have to obtain 30,000 points to get to the 25th level of each language. For example: knowing that, we know that we have some 400 points available for each one of the more or less 75 skills.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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You are really getting after it. I am amazed...at how many you have going. I want to do more, but honestly its all I can handle just w/the four that I now have, plus swahili in classroom. Way to go!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/no.name.42
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I'm only really doing Spanish, French and a little bit of German.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KentSeaton

I really miss the level bar. Its always great to know where you sit with the level you are at.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FlamesOnFire

Its stupid. Why can't we have both?!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoshFrancke

I gave you a lingot =D

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FlamesOnFire

Why thank you. Seems wrong since i have 161

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/makahiwitk

Once again this must be an A/B test thing, as I always seem to miss out on the new stuff. Though perhaps in this case I'm lucky, as I like it how it is. One day though, I might get the new Italian voice ...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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The new italian voice...is FARRRRR better and easier to undertand than the old one. Dont you have that now? I thought that was changed for everyone.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/makahiwitk

No, my Italian voice is still struggling to breathe :-) However, the new voice is much better overall. There are still some words which aren't quite right (don't ask me how I know) :-)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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Well...NOW I HAVE TO ASK YOU... How do you know? lol.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/makahiwitk

If I told you, I'd have to kill you :-)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mohamed.Aman

well for me , i really liked it , because this will make me study harder and make a progress at the same time , for example i had 113 days of streak and i am level 10 , but i actually i haven't studied anything new for 3 or 4 weeks , so today i set my goal and really studied a lesson so i could get a day streak add , i really wish they could leave both this way i could follow my daily goal and my overall achievement , levels , and experience. i am not going to lie i like naked owl better :D . and i really like the words tab in the top , this tab is really helpful and let me focus on the words i forget. one last thing , i just want to say that a great effort is spent to continue upgrading duolingo to the better and meet or exceed the learning standards of gamification which make it interesting for the learners ( " us " ) , so thanks duolingo for that :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mariana.Fortes

When I read the title I thought you wanted to know how to say "where's the bar" in French, like a pub. Lol

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Xander
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I like to be able to see my XP, number of words and the progress bar for each language. Without those, all I'm likely to do is get one XP a day to keep my streak going. I already ditched Duolingo for French, German and Spanish as the lag got too bad when they changed it to the silly new interface. There are plenty of other resources I've been using to continue working on those languages. The availability of Danish on here lured me back, but it's too frustrating to fight with the horrible interface when I can't track my progress properly. :-(

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kplife
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Ugh.....

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ariaflame
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Not to mention that the chart that I'm seeing, the same for each language, doesn't appear to be matching any of my language stuff. It says I did 34 points worth today. I haven't done any yet.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ariaflame
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Well, I'm not seeing the 34 points today now. I'm seeing zero. After having just got 10. So basically the little chart is effectively not giving me any accurate information at the moment. And now up to 40 odd. I swear it changes every time I look at it. Is it just giving me someone's at random?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rljones
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There is another issue that no has yet commented on. The Bar blended points from completing lessons with skill points from immersion. It would be theoretically possible for someone (like me, for example) to earn enough points, with the help of my friendly co-translators, to arrive at level 25 without ever completing the language lesson tree. That doesn't seem a good measure of accomplishment, and it may in fact be very inaccurate if I haven't mastered such things as future tense or conditional mood or other such niceties of the language that are further down the tree.

It is important to realize that reaching the next level, or even level 25, should not in itself really be a goal for learning the language. It is only a computer measure--and probably an inaccurate one--of progress, and it deserves to be de-emphasized. A much more meaningful measurement is the regular time spent in learning, and that is what the current model focuses on. It may take some of the "gamesmanship" out of the process, and it will not by itself solve the problem I spoke of above, but it is a shift in focus that is a step in the right direction.

Those of us who are old hands will miss the way it was, but it won't truly affect the way we log on every day to learn something new. Our progress to the next level may come as a happy surprise, but that's not bad, is it?

This change will not solve all problems and may even create new ones for some of us. But I'm glad that Duo is working on improving the system. I suspect that more changes will come.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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I'm sure you're right that more changes will come...that's the way of things. I didn't know that the bar blended that information, so that is good to know, however for me, I dont do a ton of translation on DUO, but instead choose to do reading and language discussion groups for myself and with others, so my use of DUO is basically the lessons, and word/vocab increases, and of course its a daily thing which I enjoy, and the interface of DUO does help with that.

I did know, and I do know that for many people when they start they are concerned with the level, and I know that was initially true for me as well. For me now, I have begun to see that its not the level I am on or want to attain, but more about the mastery of the language...and that is totally irrespective of what level I am on. I've had people comment on things I have questioned in language, and they'll say "This is why that sentence you were asking about is right, or whatever...and they'll add that I likely already know that because I am say Level 18 or something.", but in fact I didn't know what they had said and they might be at level 7. The level is a nice fun tool, but it means much less than the mastery of the total number of words, and the grammar and idiomatic knowledge of a language.

All that said, I still found the bar to be great for me as a gauge of my progress, and now that the Progress Bar is gone, I am jealous of those who still have it. I think it should be returned immediately to use, and it is disconcerting those who run the site do such things unilaterally without thought or interaction with the members of the User Community at large, who actually do love DUO. I also get that if they interacted with us about all decisions they made relative to the software interface, it would become kind of like 'herding cats', with everyone's opinion being different, but I would think a simple Poll, might suffice to see what people thought about doing it, prior to simply slamming it down as done, or being tested.

In short, I found it useful and fun, and it's removal quite a bummer. Apparently a large number of users agree with that perspective and share that opinion.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rljones
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Plus ça change, plus c'est la meme chose, n'est pas? We can, and do, always find something to complain about. That's not necessarily bad. Sometimes we even get what we ask for. But that's not necessarily good. I hope we'll find out without serious consequences to anybody. We'll see.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/psilva00
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Not entirely related but has anyone accidently broken their streak after recently setting a daily goal? I just broke mine fresh off reaching the 100th day yesterday because I set it for 50 daily XP and failed to reach it today. I did it just to try and push myself a little bit. Had I known failing it would break the streak, I certainly would've stayed away from that feature. I'm a little annoyed, but not nearly as much as I was when I broke my first streak after 80-plus days. Anyway, just wanted to get it off my chest.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rljones
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So--now the "goal" has become a "contract," has it? If you don't produce your agreed number of widgets you weren't here? I can't see any good in this.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/psilva00
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Yes, so it seems. I'm not saying there isn't any good in it, I just wish I would have known it was mandatory to achieve the daily goal you set in order to keep the streak alive.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Angelastic

Not only is there no bar, it doesn't even tell you or reward you when you level up. I was just looking through my activity and discovered that I leveled up in French twelve hours ago, but there's nothing in my notifications about it so I don't think I got any lingots for it (I don't remember exactly how many lingots I had, so I can't be sure, but usually there's a notification for things like that.)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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That is even worse! I am very close to leveling up in both french and spanish...and I like to go up to new levels all at once with all my languages, french, spanish, german and italian...so I dont pay too much attention to one, and ignore others... I'm seriously thinking of going elsewhere...and the lack of response from those who are part of th ogranized framework of people who run DUO, is extremely disconcerting. I've had post removed which were polite but stated to "Bring back the Bar", and more than one person as a moderator has told me to stop posting my thoughts on this issue. I wrote him/her back a polite response on their stream...and they never respond. What makes sense to me is that when changes like this will occur and they know it, why not let us know a major change is happening, and if well received, continue with it, if not, respond to those who are unsettled by the changes, and let them know what the thinking is by DUO, so that we're not all left hanging, and wondering if we can even use the site anymore.

The lack of specific response to the overwhelming negativity to this change...is what is baffling. They seem to not be interested in our thoughts...unless its to tamp them down by deleting posts. Frustrating.

Thanks for your comments!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SuperDescartes

I agree so much! Duo, please loten to your community, the response to this change is incredibly obvious!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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@Super, get with Pablovimos, who has posted on this page. He helped me to find a solution to the progress bar.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SuperDescartes

Thanks tiliarch! I will use that but I hope it wont be the only solution to this, duo needs to make the bar standard again!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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Totally agree Super, but I have honestly given up on DUO in terms of them responding or changing it back.That is why I decided to do the hack...It allows me to get what I wanted.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Angelastic

I just leveled up in German today, doing practice on my iPad, and it told me I'd leveled up and gave me lingots. When I leveled up in French (when it didn't notify me at all) that was through immersion on my Mac, so it's possible that it just never notifies you when you level up via immersion, and never did, and it's just coincidental that I happened to notice it right after this change.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iwasrobbed

Someone posted a script you can paste into your browser to get both the progress bar and the new coach together for now. Search for "Greasemonkey" (for Firefox) or "Tampermonkey" (for Google Chrome) on this page: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/4889872

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/folm235

I just installed it in Chrome (you need to unzip the file and copy the code into a new script file in the Tampermonkey extension), and it BRINGS THE BAR BACK! Thanks for the tip!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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I have it too, but DUO should be doing that in the interface for everyone. The BAR is a tool everyone needs, and there is simply not a good reason to remove it. Fix, or no fix.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WahahaDrills
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I just realized that I can't see the EXPs I have on each language and how much more I need for the next level. The daily goal thing is a great concept and I really like it but, as it is, it's terribly implemented. All your stuff is mixed together, you can't see your individual experience, and you can't set individual goals. Plus, some people go WAY over 50 points a day. I've gotten 100 a few times before in one day. It'd be nice if there was more customizing you could do for it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SuzKB
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Yes, please bring back the bar.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/folm235

Bring back the bar! I only just found this great website and the bar was one of the big attractions both for me and my son. We like to track progress toward the goal, and it can be discouraging when you don't know how far you have still to go before the next level.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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Get with Pablovimo, who has a solution he can help you. He has posted on this page. BRING BACK THE BAR!!!!

Everyone loves it, and misses it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/folm235

Thanks for the tip. I installed it and the bar's back!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/boxspah
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ATTENTION TO ALL POSTERS HERE:

There is a way to get the experience bar back! Link to discussion here: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/4914732

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ariaflame
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Is anyone else also finding that the points they are getting per day seem to get revised downwards? I'm pretty sure I did 30 points in both my Italian and French yesterday, but today it's telling me I didn't do that much Italian, and I'm not sure when it's counting my 'day' as (my day or their day)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/john_treehugger
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Bring back progress bars please

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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John, there is a guy named Pablovimo, who you can find on DUO, who has a fix for this. If you want the bar back, he can help you get it. Just FYI...but DUO should do it anyway, for everyone.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nacho.Danders

I'm only learning the one language so I don't know all the implications of not having the bar, but I find I'm in favor of the coach. It takes soo long to level up so level-by-level tracking isn't really a daily motivator like the coach. Seeing all those hollow dots will help end the days of using Duo only to satisfy my streak. I don't see why we can't have both, though.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pablovimo
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“Daily goal settings” can be helpful, but the level, the number of points of each level and the number of points already done on each level are really very helpful too, as long as they allow us to distribute the number of times we repeat each lesson and each skill, considering that we have to obtain 30,000 points to get to the 25th level of each language. For example: knowing that, we know that we have some 400 points available for each one of the more or less 75 skills.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MrHazard
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For me the bar is important, but you're right. It would be simple to have both and keep everybody happy.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nacho.Danders

Oh, dear. So you only add you your streak if you meat your goal, huh? I love that.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/asafperes
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On the phone app you can still see how many points you have for each language individually, so I guess you can calculate from that until they bring back the bar.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KurtJ
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PLEASE bring back the bar! I can't think of a single good reason for it to have disappeared, and many reasons (already listed numerous times in the comments of others) to keep it. I just wanted to add my voice to those already lamenting its loss.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tliarch
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Hi Kurt. Thanks for your note. Be advised, get with "Pablovimo" who has posted on this page, because he has a way to hack the system and get you the bar back. On the other hand, its a mystery to me why they refuse to do it sitewide, clearly people liked that feature...so their intransigence on this issue is confounding..but whatever.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/zebasp
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EASY Solution (written in Spanish ) to know our XP points and how much needed to raise the level ! https://www.duolingo.com/comment/7890944

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Osprey3

The bars had an advantage. I could pick up any group of lessons I had done and go back and review the lesson individually in the group. Please know I am learning french. For example, I have no idea what words are being taught in each lesson. Review was easier too. At a glance one could see which words were being used in the lessons and one could review them. But now one has to go through the whole group of lessons.

While algorithms are a good thing but I am the best judge on where my weakness is. The bar system was the best. Please do not screw up a good model that duolingo had developed by over tweaking it.

I do hope someone is listening? Or the other option is offer two parallel choices. The new format of duolingo, I find disheartening.

6 months ago