Who wants to learn Chinese on Duolingo?
I'm dying to begin learning this fantastic language! I spend a lot of time on Duo - I learn Spanish every day but now I want to add Chinese! I'm not even thinking about learning another language right now, Spanish and Chinese are my goals. I would give all the Lingots in the world just to make an English to Chinese tree a reality! Please, please, please - Would some knowledgeable, dedicated Chinese person/people make this available?
This photo is the Victoria Harbour in Hong Kong!
Right now, we are still working on improving the "English for Chinese speakers" course. Thanks to Duo staff, a lot of useful features have been added to the incubator recently, which makes graduation from Beta seem possible now. (You're right. It wasn't even possible to graduate.)
Our plan is to start the incubation of the reverse course as soon as the current English course graduates from Beta. Do not expect the Chinese course to be added to the incubator soon when the English course is still in Beta, but do expect that we start the course construction as soon as the English course graduates.
We want to teach you the Pinyin system and the writing system of Chinese at the same time, for both of which Duolingo is not optimal yet. The incubation of Asian languages will be a lot of work. I will suggest the community try learning some Chinese from other sources while waiting.
ChineseSkill is a Duolingo clone that does the basics of Chinese pretty well. Maybe you could learn something from them. I already know Pinyin and about 1000 characters, so I would love to use Duolingo to improve a language I've already been studying!
I know the app and have suggested it to my American friends learning Chinese, but I have no intention to learn anything from it.
I think Skibture was suggesting that you look at the app ChineseSkill for ideas on how to incorporate Asian languages into a Duolingo format, not as a way to learn Chinese or English (which you presumably already know since you are working on the incubator)....judging by your response, I think you may have misunderstood. I think there is always something to learn when you look at the way someone else approaches a problem.
I understood him correctly. I tried the app and I know their ways to incorporate the language in a Duolingo style. (That's why I suggest it to my American friends.) But no, our team have our own ideas, so we're not going to take anything from the app (and hopefully ours will work better than theirs). Does that make sense? :D
Lovely picture! Any place with skyscrapers is my best friend. 我可以讲中文，可是我的中文不是太好。我有个很大的美国人的口音。I don't know if that was correct...
I'd imagine that it won't be a while until the Chinese for English course would come out. English in Chinese is currently in Beta with about 3 million users, so the course developers probably have a lot on their hands.
If you (you in general) really want to learn Chinese, you can learn from the Chinese to English course, although it might make the site all in Chinese.
I disagree. I tried the Chinese-to-English course after 3 months of Chinese study, and I wasn't able to understand anything because the instructions are in Chinese. Also, you would only get the English audio, and no Chinese audio, so the course would be nearly useless for pronunciation, which is particularly important in Chinese.
And it does make the entire site turn to Chinese, which was a little terrifying.
you could still learn some of the characters, and have a head start on that, though. I didn't try the Chinese course; I just assumed it would behave the same way as the Japanese and Russian ones did in the changing the site language thing. I don't know what half the instructions for the Japanese course say, but I can still use it. It seems fairly obvious which way they want you to translate, or if they want you to pick the right translation.
I know! I switched to Chinese by accident, and I got completely lost in the app. I needed help from a Chinese friend to turn back to English!
I had tried doing the same thing. It is doable, but you will have to change a few things. Turn off the English voice. Get a Chrome extension like SpeakIt! which you can use to pronounce the Chinese for you. You will also need a dictionary on hand to get the pinyin for your new words.
If you have a strong desire to learn from this method, it can be done. It will just take more work.
Chinese and Asian languages in general on Duolingo would amazing. I wish the staff the best of luck in the incubation of these languages!
I just submitted my application to incubator for building up the course you want. Hopefully Chinese for English speakers will arrive soon.
YES!!! I love seeing a bright young mind in action. Hopefully you will be getting some help in this endeavor... you'll need some dedicated teammates to bounce ideas off of in order to put this thing together. I wish you the best of luck, Heloisa! :D
the problem i see with an english to chinese course is writing..... wouldn't learning to write with chinese characters on an english/latin keyboard be damn near impossible?
that being said mandarin is the second language i would like to learn, so if they somehow managed to make a course, that would be awsome
Pinyin is used to type on a latin keyboard. Learning to handwrite the characters is almost obsolete now. Even Chinese forget how to write characters all the time.
Why not, we can learn writing on electronic writing pad. In my iPad i make chinese input using hand writing, but still use pingyin when come to phone because phone is too small to write on.
你好 (Hello) Talk about perfect timing! My husband and I have an interest in learning Chinese. So far I have figured out how to install the Chinese keyboard for my laptop and also for the Swype keyboard for android. Took a peek at the English for Chinese speakers course but looks like I will first have to learn the pinyin for the vocabulary so that I use it to input the answers with the Chinese keyboard.
Thanks to all for the suggestions you have made. Will definitely check them out.
We have the same language goals! I recently moved to China, so learning Chinese is urgent for me. As a U.S. citizen, I think learning Spanish is almost a duty, given the number of monolingual Spanish speakers in the U.S.
They're working on a "English-from-Chinese" course right now! I asked the course developers when the eta of "Chinese-from-English" is, and it seems like they are waiting for new duolingo software updates: Asian languages present some unique challenges. https://www.duolingo.com/comment/5118759$comment_id=5121899
For what it's worth, I find speaking Chinese easier than speaking Spanish. The tones slow the speech down, so I can actually understand the words. In conversational Spanish, people generally speak too fast for me to catch any individual words. And Chinese is a very logical language, so once you know a few hundred words, you can use them as building blocks to more complex words. But there's very few loan-words and the writing system is seriously a royal pain to learn.
I've been learning using the "New Practical Chinese Reader" series and the corresponding memrise.com course, both of which are worth checking out.
If you spend more time listening to people speak Spanish, your brain will get better at breaking it up into words, and then better at picking out what those words actually are. It's an adjustment, and I haven't mastered it yet at all, but it does slowly get easier.
Try ChineseSkill for Android and iOS. I've tried it a tiny bit but haven't really used it, but I've heard god things about it from others.
There's already a team of people who want to do it. Nothing to do for us (as users of Duolingo) but wait as patiently as possible while all of the pieces get moved into place. The good news is that there are lots of resources out there that you can use to get yourself started in the meantime :)
You are talking to me, the Chinese person, right? I applied for the incubator, but so far, I didn't get any messages. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPiWsequAZw
If you just can't wait any longer, you can learn Chinese from the Chinese to English course. But there are a few things you will need to do.
First of all, be prepared to navigate the site in Chinese. The most important thing you can know is that the word for English is 英语 or 英文. Before proceeding, you may want to disable the audio so you don't have English voiceovers driving you nuts.
Get a Chrome extension like SpeakIt! which you can use to read aloud the Chinese words and sentences for you. You can even alter the speed at which it speaks, allowing you to hear it at your own pace. Next, get a Chinese dictionary. With your phone, I highly recommend the Pleco app - it allows you to draw the characters and then it gives you the pinyin and definition. There are plenty of Chinese dictionary websites available as well.
Finally, have a Word document or pen and paper at hand. You will be learning both characters and their pinyin, so be prepared to keep your own dictionary with sample sentences. If you have zero Chinese experience, you will want to go elsewhere and learn pinyin pronunciation and tones first. It is fairly easy - you can learn it in a few hours.
So if you just can't wait, it can be done! Just be prepared to work harder for it.
I forgot to mention that you need to have a Chinese keyboard enabled. To do this on Windows 7, go to Start Menu, Control Panel, and under Clock, Language and Region select "Change keyboards or other input methods." Under the Keyboards and Language tab, click Change Keyboards... . Click Add. Then scroll to Chinese > Keyboard > Chinese (Simplified) - Microsoft Pinyin New Experience Input Style. Check it and click OK. Click Apply.
Now you should be able to switch between languages using a button at the bottom right of your screen. To input Chinese characters, input the pinyin and then select the characters from a list. Make sure the icon you see on the bottom bar is 中, if not, click it to switch from English (英).
If you don't have Windows 7, there should be plenty of tutorials around for other operating systems.