I believe 'comment ça va?' and 'ça va?' are exactly the same, like 'How are you?' and 'Are you well?' etc etc. Many different ways to say the same thing. I find it easier to think of the phrase '(comment) Ça va?' (either, or) as "How's it going?" "or How goes it?" asking more about life in general instead of 'How are you?' implying ones state of wellness. If I want to be personal/ specific towards wellness, I would ask "et toi, Tu es bien?"
But I may be wrong! :)
"Ca va?" can be seen as "everything alright?" or "everything going well?" and you can answer with "yes" or "no." "Comment ca va?" means "how's everything going?"
You can also reply to "ça va" with a more elaborate: "Je vais bien"/"ça va bien", etc... Not always a yes or no question.
"Everything's alright?" is rather "Tout va bien?" in my opinion, "ça va?" asks about the personal health and moral of the person, while "everything's ok?"/"Tout va bien?" asks about the things in general.
Yeah, I have been speaking French for about 2 years. I found this site a while ago and decided to have fun with it. I just don't feel like skipping anything.
wunel- If you're talking about perce-neige, she's french, and I am too. We're here to help, but I think that we have to pass all the lessons, if we want to make comments to the learners, so, our nivel is only where we are at this moment, but as natives, we have to pass through the lessons, unless someone would know an easier way to help without doing the lessons like the beginners.
Oh, so Ca va? just asks wether you are Ok. Comment ca va? asks what's going on in your life.
You are absolutely correct. In my experience people often drop the 'comment' apart from when they are addressing someone more formally as Vous = Comment allez vous.
What is don't understand here is why the English translation is "how are you doing" because in English we more often say "how are you going". "How are you going" is far closer to comment ça va, because it literally means how does this go, not "do". The word for French for do is faire.
I agree, it helps me to remember what the French literal meaning is, when I think of it as "how's it going?" because that also works for the inferred meaning.
So if I ask somebody in French, "commet ça va?" When I first meet them, it's like an informal, "how's it going?"
it's more often used by the older peoples in french culture, comment vas tu is a nice substitute though, as it is used by the younger part of french culture more so than ca va
I also have to remember that this is one of Duolingo's idiosyncrasies. It is a bit like having a teacher who has a faulty correct answer. You just adjust for that person. But when I expressed my frustration to a fellow Australian she said "Oh I often ask someone 'How are you doing?' so maybe it is regional!!!
While "how are you doing" is certainly used, it is rarely used in Australia, instead "How are you going" is almost universal. Is this not so in some other English speaking countries as well?
In the UK we wouldn't say "how are you going?" but we would say "how is it going?" to mean the same as "how's things?", "how are you?". it's even more informal than "how are you doing?" though"
When I travelled in Australia, nobody ever asked "how are you doing?". It was always "how are you going?". I am from Canada, and nobody I have ever encountered says "how are you going?". It is always "how are you doing?" The same can be seen on Canadian/American television - nobody says "how are you going?"
Americans and Canadians are the wierd ones that ask How are you doing? Or How are you?
Agreed. I'm from Australia and I always get these questions wrong because I respond instincitvely with "How are you going?" And yet I never learn my lesson...
I answered "How are you?" and it was fine. The "going/doing" at the end of the question isn't necessary as you pose the same question without it (As an informal greeting). But that could be an Australian thing?
Yeah, I get tripped up by that too. When I originally learned French in Australia, my teacher/classmates would normally translate it as "How's it going?", which is also close to the literal meaning. So it seems natural to add "going" to the end of the sentence.
That's interesting. As another Aussie where I'm from the majority people say "How are you going?" although there is a relatively small subset, particularly among younger people and probably influenced by American television, who use either.
"How are you going? " would refer to your mode of transportation. As in, "I am going by car, train, or plane". "How are you doing? " refers to your health or state of mind. In USA
I am in the US and I have never heard anyone use the phrase "how are you going?" ...maybe it will catch on.
Yes, and also 'How are things?' or 'how's it going?' or even more colloquially , 'how you doing?' (i.e. omitting 'are').
Why is "Hi, how are you?" correct and "Hello, how are you?" wrong?? Hi and Hello are the same thing. This makes no sense.
To me also just now! It never gave me trouble translating Salut to Hello before.
My impression is that Bonjour = Hello, and Salut = Hi. Perhaps I am mistaken.
If you look at learn French with Alexa on Youtube she says salut should be used by people you know well. She grew up in France. Not sure if things are changing with the language so salut is o.k. with anyone. She says say, Bonjour unless you know them well. Just saying.
Annoying...why is "Hello, how are you doing?" not accepted? Hello can be used casually or formally. It doesn't have to Hi and I would never write 'Hey'.
Did you wrie 'hello' instead of 'hi' , this app does not know they are the same words
Here it marked wrong for hello, it says 'hey' is the correct translation of 'salut'.
Just context. If you are talking to someone, hopefully you will know whether they are coming or going. In this case, you are asking how someone is doing, so it makes more sense to say hello.
"comment ça va" is exactly the same of "ça va"? or is there any informal/formal difference between them?
There's a formal/informal difference.
The formal and proper way to say it, is "Comment vas-tu?"/"Comment allez-vous?)
The informal way is "Comment ça va?"
The even more informal way (almost slang) is "ça va?"
Please see above (I don't know if you get notified when I reply to the first question)
Why is "Hello, how are you?" not acceptable, yet "Hi, how are you" is?
Is there something to do with formalities or grammar that hasn't been explained?
Is salut informal and is ça va informal? If so, would we ever say "Salut, comment ça va" if that's informal and formal combined? I hope those questions make sense.
It's a US usage versus those used in the rest of the world. I keep reporting it because where I come from no-one says "How are you doing?". We say "How are you going?" to mean "How are you?" or "How are you feeling?"
In french how are you going is literal. So it would be a question of how/where someone is moving or travelling to. How are you doing means "How do you exist" and is a question of the persons health and wellness.
shouldn't the reader's voice go up at the end of a question? The woman's voice does not. I think her pronunciations are off sometimes as well.
When the voice is raised at the end of Ça va, that is asking the question 'how are you doing' 'How are you going is incorrect translation. When you hear Ça va without the voice raising, that is answering. Well or OK. The going part comes from aller and to say how are you going.....Vous allez bien?or tu vas bien? ....are you going well? You can answer. 'Je vais bien or très bien. I am going well , very well. (don't forget to say Merci)
ok, I'm not sure what all you have to say has to do with my post. My point simply was that "ca va" was a question and the female voice on here was not raising her voice therefore changing the meaning of what she was saying. I was pointing out the voice's error. but thanks, I guess...
"How are you going/doing?", are valid Australian English translations, along with "how are you?".
The proper form is "Comment ça va?" (they should teach us this form instead of the other one), "ça va?" is only the abbreviate form.
As when you say: Are you" alright?" And the short form is "alright?"
the comment is assumed if you just say ca va. One translation should be correct is Hello, how's it going. It is actually more correct than what the course says.
It accepts how are you doing, but it does not accept how are you going, why?
Can this question be asked exactly this way of a group? "How's it going?" is the same in English whether I'm asking one person or many. Is it not the same in French?
Yes. When you use the personal (proper and formal form) = Comment vas-tu? You use the personal, so it has to agree to the person you talk to, ("tu", or "vous")
And when you use the impersonal form, the informal "ça", it's invariable, you say "Comment ça va?" (or the short form "ça va?") to anyone, but because it's informal, it's hard to use with someone to who you say "vous"!
That is my question, too. Duo shows both "hi" and "bye" for "Salut." Seems strange that it could have opposite meanings.
Another Aussie. I learnt that how are you going (shortened to how ya goin'? In spoken form) was unacceptable. I still occasionally go to put in g'day for salut, as it feels the most appropriate. If I am going to informally greet someone in conversation, that is what I use.
Loving the app, but I feel it wasn't designed for conversational Australian english
I got incorrect for "how are you going" instead of "how are you doing". Surely va is literally going, right?
Most people don't usually say "comment ça va? " for it's too formal. ça va is a more popular
What's the difference between "Hallo, how are you?" and "Hello, how are you?"
You don't even have say the right words to get it right you just have to say' something
The question before this, 'salut' was 'bye'. But here it is 'hello.' Is there a way to tell the difference, other than context?
Hallo is a commonly used form of hello in English. Both are correct ( except on duolingo ) and are good English
Salut is an informal greeting like hi, comment is how / how is, ca is it, va is go. So this sentence directly translated should be more like; hi, how is it going?
From what I remember i'm pretty sure salut means hi and bonjour means hello but that's besides the point hi and hello have the exact same meaning so why was it that "Hi, how are you?" is incorrect?! I mean if there's a question like "Translate this "elle mange" you could answer either "she eats" or "she is eating" so with this question why can't I reply with "Hi, how are you?" or "Hello, how are you?"
The scentence and everything is all right but my microphone has always worked fine and every time I say somthing it will say it's wrong and then give me the answer and it will be exactly what I said and I have a normal voice it is bugging me so much. Any suggestions??
I had the same problem with the German Duolingo. I finally shut off the microphone on my laptop and computer, so YOU don't have to speak aloud. There remains the same variety of skill formats offered in all the lessons, except you don't have to do the VERBAL responses. Every sentence is still read aloud to you, so you are hearing the pronunciation of the language you are studying, just not having to "fight" with the recording weaknesses. Hope this will help you!
Salut est un informel salutation, donc, en anglais peut être "Hi, Hello, G'day, how-are-ya etc. Avec le informel, bon chance
"Hi, how's it going" was marked correct as the translation for this french sentence last night ... so now it's not? What's going on?
I'm not a native speaker, but after my answer was not accepted by DL, I did some research and I figured it out that "Hello", "Hey" and "Hi" mean "Salut".
I believe it could be a technical mistake. "Hello" should be accepted.
If Duolingo won't accept "Hello' for 'Salut' then the whole program needs to be re-done
I put "Hello, how are you doing?" and I was marked wrong? it corrected me to "hey, how are you doing?"
I entered "Hello, how is it going?" and the duolingo throws, in red:
You used the wrong word. Hey, how is it going?
I asked my french friend, if Salut is only "hey", but never "hello" - she laughed :)
I'm glad someone mentioned 'Learn French with Alexa' I've learned that you need a good exposure to multiple teaching methods to progress. Duolingo is a great way to tie it all together in the 'in between' time....yes, that means in the bathroom too. I would highly recommend the early 1980's video series that was aired on PBS that you can find on YouTube. 'French in Action' Extremely helpful and immersive.
I think i said this exactly right, but it said salut is the only thing im getting right. I dont know if background noise can affect this or not.
One is more formal than the other, comment is usually used with older people or strangers
Does adding "comment" into the sentence means that the person answering has to elaborate?
Technically yes (but in real life: no)
Comment ça va? = how = you can use an adverb.
ça va? = yes or no question.
In real life:
-Comment ça va?
- ça va! (I didn't use an adverb)
-Je vais bien! (I used an adverb)
The only difference is that you can answer yes/no for "ça va" but not with "comment..."
Wow I did not know the flags were comments. Great to know you can talk to others here.
I was doing the listen and type thing it sounded way different then what it really is. you'd think they'd make it sound the way it's saposed to right? I even used turtle speed and it still sounded weird !
Can someone tell me what the difference between comment ça va, ça va bien, and ça va are?
Comment ça va=How are you ça va bien= i am fine, ça va=how are you (but in short form, the way you would normally talk to people)
I put "Salutations, how are you?" Why is "salutations" incorrect but "greetings" is fine? It was just the first word that came to mind.
Salutations is very old fashioned almost antique, we can understand it but it is not of our times
You use it for hi, or bye (depends on the sentence). If it was alone then you could use it as hi or bye.
it told me salut could mean hi hello or bye but it did not except bye !!! why does life hate me!!!!!!!!
Life loves you and salut means hello , goodbye and all other greetings unless the french take exception!
They literally just said that salute meant bye and now they are saying that it means hi.
Isn't ca va used, generally, more often by the older peoples in french culture?
I put u and they said no all the kids these days say u instead of you maybe they should update this gam
why do there have to be a formal and an informal way to say it is so hard to remember, why can't you just say bonjour all the fine and not say Salut
You could also ask. Why English doesn't dound the way it looks?
French is not Spanish. French chosed a long time ago to keep the etymology root. French was a kind of elite language.
But don't worry, French, once you understand the pronounciation rules, has a far more logical pronounciation than English. But spelling is always a problem.
sometimes the word bonjour actually does not fit in the sentence as it also indicates a different meaning of good morning...so why can't we use there salut as it indicates hello and no other meaning?
'Hi, are you okay?' is not accepted. What is the correct french translation for this?
I have trouble pronancing words so somebody plz give me a website .
i put hello how are u you and it said i was wrong cause i didnt put a comma COME ON NOW
Duolingo should also except How are thing going. Because it just one simple error.
My answer is 'hello, how are you doing?' but it says i am wrong. Please correct the required answer to accept 'hello' as well as 'hi' since they are exactly the same words.
salut may well mean "hey!" but surely it also means "hello", which was graded as an error for me
I think salut could be hi or hello
Just as comment ça va can be how are you or how are you doing
Last time I got called out on this, oh, twenty seconds ago, salut was "cheers". Getting a wee bit confused here.
I typed "Hello, how are you?" and it corrected me by saying "Hi, how are you?" I don't understand. :-(
Bit disappointed no one brought up Spongebob from this exact phrase/saying lol
As an Englishman I would never say 'hey' as suggested in the correction offered me.
I don't like either hey or hi they suit neither my age nor station.
I answered "Hello, how are you doing?" but DL didn't accept my answer, which is funny since I checked DL translation options before I answered and "hello" was one of the correct options.
Why is "hello" marked wrong here? I have used it before and it had been accepted.
Does salut mean hello or hi or both? Why is it showing my translation of hello as wrong? Something am missing?
"Hello, how are you?" Is incorrect because it's "Hi, how are you?" Really? That seems beyond pedantic.
Hello for salut not accepted? Come on! Also I always thought "comment ca va" something along the lines of "how is it going" or a more informal "how goes it".
I have answered "Hello, how afe you?" I was corrected: "Hi, how are you?" Should be Hello accepted too?
I didn't know that "hi" and "hello" are different! I got a wrong answer using hello instead of hi. Please enlighten me. Thanks
Hi, how are you doing and hello, how are you doing is same thing why it didn't accpet my answer
Doesn't the translation "hello, how are you?" mean basically the same thing as "Hi, how are you doing"?
I wrote: 'Hello how are you doing' And: 'Hi how are you'
And it told me it was wrong.
The only acceptable answer was: 'Hi how are you doing'
This is a bit annoying
Why is: "Hi, how are you?" Not a valid answer? It shows on the translation cascade.
"Hi, how are you?" Is in the option cascade as a good answer but this platform says I am wrong...confusing!!!
In english we would never say 'how are you doing' , we would say 'how are you or how are you going'.
My answer: how are you? Doulingo: wrong. How are you doing? It seems a bit facetious...
I thought comment as comment in English . But I didn't think that it is how.
Can I really be marked down for translating "ca va" as "how are you?" instead of "how are you doing?" as Duo says? There seems to me to be very little difference. But if that is the case then how do you say "how are you?"
Can anyone else hear Joey's voice from Friends when seeing this sentence?
I mean i answered " Hi how's it going" and it accepted it soooooo.......
Can you substitute other words instead of "hi" for "Salut"? I said Greetings, and it was wrong.
what exactly is the meaning of 'Salut' and how do i know when i should use it as 'bye' and when i should use it as 'hi'?
There is a series, learn french with Alexa. She is from France. She says salut can be hi or bye but is used among people who know one another. She says for people you don't know you use more formal expressions like bonjour and au revior. She explains a lot. Her series is a good way to get details.
I am sorry that I got involved in this discussion, perhaps it is my age (old)! When I heard that Ca va translated as 'How are you doing?' I cringed in despair as it was appalling English, but since posting I have heard so people using this expression that I realise it is the slippery slope of language. Sad but true I 'seen' it written the other day
I am English. I would say 'How are you?' I accept American English in the Spanish course since Duo is founded by some one from South America. I was marked on a previous question: woman's voice says 'enchanté' and I was wrong for writing enchantée. Was unable to comment on that section
I'm American and I would say, "how are you?". The translation above is Hi, how are you?, so I'm not sure what your question is.
Also, Luis Von Ahn is from Guatemala, which is in North America.
Salut is hi, but in the exercise, I only had hello, and it was correct.. Please make sure you are not confusing learners with wrong translations.
Every time I try to use the vocal thing, it tells me I'm wrong. My mic is working just fine. Am I just that bad at pronunciation? Am I supposed to say it in English? I don't understand what's happening.
I translated correctly. But iam getting the result as wrong. Iam not getting the result in green colour
Yes i was wrong. I typed in english whereas i was supposed to type in french.
It's so ennoying reapiting for 2 levels of 20 questions each the same thing..
No, what's up is more of slang and "new", but in a way it kind of does, i guess
You know what if you put goodbye how are you?It probably won't count it as correct/right:)
Um i find it a little confusing that when i have to put a definition for a word like A plus tard. It does'nt give a definition cause i dont know what that word is.
When to translate hello or goodbye,
what's diff between "Hello, how are you?" and "hey what's up"
I don't know how to be formal....... I didn't go through puberty
I thought ''ca va?'' was the same as '' comment ca va'' but just an abbreviation?? I doesn't make any sense to me how they are the same thing and how one of them is always going to be wrong?!?!
i put in'hi,how are the things going'and it said wrong.WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT?:(
Again, there are certain things in french that should not be translated verbatim.
"Comment ça va", "ça va bien", and "ça va" mean literally the same things, right?
ça va bien means i am good, but the others means the same except ça va is the shorter and the more commonly used when talking
I really dont understand ça va... it is used in so many different phrases I dont know what they actually mean.
Every time it has been used so far it has had something to do with the subject of well being or health.
What are the different uses and meanings of ça va? This is confusing.
ça va means how is it going, how are you, but the others (Comment ça va) means the same except ça va is the shorter and the more commonly used when talking ça va literal translation is "it goes", but you get the idea.
I am giving out a free lingot to someone who would like one. The requirements are that you are polite and do not beg me.
If you have a lingot to give away, give it to a helpful comment, not give it to people who say they would like one. Those people who ask you are just people who wants a lingot without doing real work. Besides, you should not be posting a string of these same comments on other disscusions. Duo Mods said that you should not be drawing yourself attention by these kinds of comments
This confused me as it says salut, which i thought meant bye. But answer said Hey. How can salut mean hey and bye?
Just saying that I typed "bye, how are you" and it said I was wrong because it was a question. Technically you could say "bye" and then ask a question
Yes, it does mean both. But if you used salut as bye in this question, it would be odd because no one would say "bye, how are you". If it was "Salut, à plus tard" then it would fit to use bye.
Salut does mean bye, but in this sentence it's hello because would it be odd though if this is "Bye, how are you" ?
So what does "comment" translate to if "comment ça va" and "ça va" both translate to "how are you?"?
Please, see the comments, it has been answered.
"Comment ça va?" is the proper form. = litterally "how is it going", and "ça va" is only the abbreviated form, it only means, (litterally) it's going (well)?
how are you and how are you all should be equal. If I go into a room and say, Hello, how are things going? it would be just as acceptable as saying it singularly.
In French, when you say "Comment ça va"? usually, you ask only one person, but I can imagine a situation where a tv presenter says "Comment ça va?" in a show looking at a crowd, as if he ask them individually, and everyone at large reply: "bien!!!"
However, it's not the way it's asked usually. If you mean "all" when talking to guys in a room, you would rather say "Vous allez bien?" to show the plural. If you say "tu" to all of them individually, it will be clear you talk to everyone as a group, but if you say "vous" to some people, you will be forced to say "Vous allez tous bien?"/"Vous allez bien, tous?" etc...
I disagree, if I understand you correctly.
If I entered a room with a group of people in it and said "how are you?" I would almost certainly be asked who I was talking to rather than being given an answer by everybody. If I said, "hey everyone, how are you?" then that would be like asking "how are you all?".
Otherwise they are different questions, just like "how is he going?" vs "how are they going?".
I work at a Frebch stire run by two genuine french people and they use comment ça va and ça va to ask how are you. They have also used the phrase comment tale vous. I ammost certainly getting the spelling wrong however i believe that it is a more formal way of saying how are you in comparison to the less formal ça va.
The sentence is "Comment allez-vous?", yes, it's more formal, and more proper.
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Im using my kindle fire to learn on this app, but i cant fine the c with the hook (i am taking french at school and i have learned what its called i just forget) on my keyboard. When i say ca it marks it as a typo, does anybody know where it is or how to get it?
ça va bien means i am good, but the other means the same except ça va is the shorter and the more commonly used when talking
As a native English speaker we use "how are you doing?" Sometimes shortened to "How y' doing?" Or "how goes it?" We would never use "How are you going" Unless asking about the mode of transport re travelling to a place
What is the direct translation of 'comment', then? Is it a verb with other conjegations?
I am not sure about this but apparently it is a adverb (please excuse me if i got it wrong). The direct translation of comment is how or what. an example for what is from the page: http://french.about.com/od/vocabulary/a/comment.htm.
-Philippe est mort. - Comment ?
- Philippe is dead.
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Before it says Salut is bye... which i knew was incorrect because my teacher told me otherwise. Now when i put bye for salut it says it means HEY which i put in the first place. I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THIS BECAUSE IT MAKES ME LOOK SILLY INFRONT OF ALL MY FRIENDS FIX ITTTTTTTT
comment ca va? ca va? ca va bien? all mean the same thing but are just said differently depending on the person's preferred way of saying it and the situation in which the question is asked.
i always say the wrong answer. for some reason i looked at google translation the answer is correct ????????????????????????????????????????????
so in a way i am saying it correctly overall after 100% effort i checked and i was wrong i said "bonjour" but it said i said "bounjor" what the HECK???????!!!!!!!?????????????!!!!!!!!
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I think a more relaxed approach should be taken to translations. Although 'Hello, how are you?' is the correct translation, 'Hello, how are you feeling' is a worthy alternative.
There's no "feeling" in the original sentence. It would be "Comment te sens-tu?"/"Comment vous sentez-vous?"
How are you feeling? is a greeting in English?