"Il lavoro unisce gli uomini."
Translation:The work unites the men.
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I believe that would be "il lavoro unisci le gente" or "il lavoro unisce il popolo". The word for people would be denoted by "le gente" or "il popolo" in my experience, wheras "gli uomini" means the men. Hope that helps
I think you are right. The first meaning of "il lavoro unisce gli uomini" for an Italian person is general: "Work unites people"
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I often hear/see uomini used where 'men' would be a very strange translation and 'people' would be much more natural
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I wrote that as well and it was rejected! I’m getting weary of the awkward translation that replaces my very used English
I got rejected too! Edit actually it turns out that I put 'work unites all men'
I wrote it as an aphorism: "Work brings men together," but this was not accepted. Granted, it does leave a dangling preposition, but I thought this was conversational Italian. The "correct" translation is literal, yes, but no American English speaker I know would use this word choice and syntax: "The work brings together the men." Are we going for strict transliteration, or learning to recognize colloquial phrases? Is this a proverb, or is it a terse declaration one might see in a newspaper?
As with many of the phrases we're given here, I think 'the work unites the men' is a perfectly intelligible phrase if situated in a suitable context and in this case it is not difficult to imagine it being used. For instance, a woman being interviewed about the closure of a local factory says 'the work [provided by the factory] unites the men [of the town]'.
To unify and to unite are not the same thing. Unify-to make a group of things become as one. Unite- bring together
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But to be correct in English it would have to refer to a specific before mentioned kind of work work
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If it were Work Unites Men (or People) would it not be "Lavoro Unisce Uomini?" (Both work and men are then more general. I don't really grasp the rules regarding definite and indefinite articles in Italian. They seem to be used, or not, in a quite arbitrary way.
Not really, because the article is almost always used in Italian (seen here).
I wrote "The work brings men together". This has the same meaning, so why is it incorrect?
Because the term "together" already has a word in Italian which is "insieme". You learn that a bit later in either the adverbs or adjectives lessons.
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This would be "Lavorare unisce gli uomini.", although I'm not sure if it sounds ok to native speakers' ears.
What does this even mean in English, I am a native English speaker and don't understand...
It means that a job they are doing together makes the men who are doing it feel like they are a community, or have a common cause, or otherwise creates a bond among them.
It might happen, for example, if a group of men work together to put out a forest fire, or search for someone who is lost, or do something else that gives them a common goal.
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I think in english we could also have translated "unisce gli uomini" in "brings people together"
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Probably a dumb question, but why is it unisce instead of uniscono? Men is third person plural, so wouldn't it be -ono instead of -e? Or is it taken as men as a singular group instead of plural of man? or is it only third person plural if you are saying "they"? Thank you in advance
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In this sentence, the subject is "the work" (singular); "the men" is not the subject, but rather the direct object.
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“Il lavoro unisce gli uomini” sounds like a general statement, so I would translate to “Work unites...” rather than “The work unites...”. As to “uomini”, we often use it as a general term to include both men and women, although this usage is changing.
When translating into English, the nouns do not require a definite article.
