Should Welsh Be On Duolingo?
I'm SophieEleanor, but my nickname on here is Singsong. Anyway, I was just thinking about if I would learn Welsh if it was on duolingo. Would you? I think I would. I just wanted to know if others agree...
Well thank you for reading! I'd love to read some replies too!
Well i'm a fluent welsh speaker having grown up going through Welsh medium-education and ive seen some demand for it here, im just not sure yet if ill have time to commit well and long term to incubating the course esoecially if not many others are. But next year hopefully ill be studying Welsh at uni next year so i could encourage others to do it with me then!
I know several Welsh people and even had a Welsh partner at one point, although he didn't know it himself he has family and little cousins that speak it fluently. I doubt I'd ever become fluent in it but it would amazing to try. Eventually it would be great to have all the Celtic and Brythonic languages on here. It definitely would be a point of difference compared to other language sites.
Completely agree with lrtward, it's not so much about which languages have more right but availability of volunteers. This is the very reason why such a 'random' language as Irish is on Duo already but more 'important' languages like Russian and Chinese aren't yet.
Irish is on because they very cleverly created a very vocal minority so it was easier for Duo to give them the server space for a course than ignore them... it was impressive but I'm not sure it'd work again. Welsh does have the same advantage as Irish though - nearly everyone who has it as a first language also has native level English fluency.
I have faith! Maybe it's because of the Welsh people I hang around but it does seem it is in revival mode as Irish is so I completely disagree those that say it isn't 'important' or worthwhile. Just because it has no value to them doesn't mean it doesn't interest other people. Besides, I could be going to Wales one day and I want to be able to pronounce some of those place names without completely butchering their language :D
You are so right; I was in Portugal last year and tried to name the place that we were staying, and an old man laughed at me. It wasn't nice; at least I was trying.
I'm really sorry that happened to you. I'm studying Portuguese right now and pronunciation is difficult. I've spoken to people from both Portugal and Brazil and it's just not easy.
Sometimes my Brazilian friends laugh when I say something wrong, but with them I know it's a reaction of surprise or a tension breaker, and they appreciate that I'm trying.
It's amazing how discouraging a random stranger can be. I hope it didn't put you off too much. Portuguese is such a beautiful language.
Generally, in life, I'd agree with you and say that Welsh as a language is in a much happier place than Irish with stronger community use, more widespread Welsh medium education and much wider media available (BBC Cymru, S4C etc)
However, on Duo, a few people that could act as course creators organised themselves, tapped into the Irish American contingent, brought in Irish learners from other websites (Reddit etc) and kept up persistent pressure on the forums with multiple threads with hundreds of comments. And that's why we have an Irish course. This one plaintive thread isn't nearly annoying enough to Duo mods. Yet (if you want it, ask, ask, ask again. Get bilinguals to apply in their dozens to the incubator. Keep trying.)
I'm not sure if we need to annoy the Duo mods so much as galvanize those parts of the community that speak Welsh or want to learn it. I could be wrong, but I don't think they'd turn down a team of bilingual people ready and willing to create a new language course.
If I knew any speakers, I would so completely be begging them right now. They're a bit thin on the ground where I live, unfortunately.
I think it would be pretty cool to have Welsh on Duolingo. I would definitely try and learn it if it was. :). And there are enough Welsh-speaking people to make the course a real possibility (especially if you think about Irish), so, yeah, maybe there will be a Welsh course.
Yes:) I'm glad that you unlike others are happy to embrace rather than forget that it was a real language.
It is a great language:) I was looking on another post like this one and some person said that it wasn't that important and it was just another useless language that people would soon forget. I don't think so. But I can't be annoyed at everyone right?
Looking at your profile I can see that you are from/living in Argentina. Did you know that aside from Wales and the rest of the UK, Argentina is the only other country with a significant population of native Welsh speakers?
I believe there was a Welsh language documentary by popular Welsh musican Gruff Rhys about this which had good reviews. I think it was called Separado. Also If you are interested in Welsh language music he is probably the best artist for it. The Welsh language album 'Mwng' by his band the Super Furry Animals is one of my favourite albums of all time. The majority of his work is in English though, but it is all really good.
I am Jon. Are you talking to me? Or someone else? Because I'm half Welsh:) ( Not Argentinian)
Yeah, I know, that's another reasson to learn it. May be in a few months I'll visit the Welsh Colonies in the south.
I wouldn't mind learning it either; although it looks awfully difficult.
Ever since I was a kid I've wanted to learn Welsh. When I was a teenager I would sometimes spend days researching Welsh grammar as both a procrastination activity and a blissful, if minor, obsession. The resources were not bountiful. I don't remember a thing except that 'dress' sounded a bit like 'frog'.
...Because it's 'ffrog'. Thanks, internet.
Welsh was the language I always wanted to learn most, for absolutely no good reason. If there is one thing I've learned about myself, it's that no good reason is the best reason. Noble intentions and grand ideals dry up pretty quick in the face of vocab reviews. Resolutions fade. WTF is forever.
Oh, Duolingo! Please, if it is feasible, help me fulfill a baffling childhood dream. I may be odd, but I'm dead serious about learning Welsh if I should find it available here.
Welsh is not a language spoken my many people but I think it would be cool to have welsh on duo lingo.
Well that is not entirely true.. Lots of people are learning it and already know it.