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"Ellos no tienen tanto."

Translation:They do not have so much.

5 years ago

122 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/impocta
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Would "they don't have that much" also be correct?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lyubomirv
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It was accepted for me.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Synesthete24

Yay, this sentence is messing with me. I am very picky with grammar... I especially hate it when I have done something wrong!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Schnookums1
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Sometimes it can be kinda hard to translate English grammar to Spanish grammar. But it's something that is learned over time.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EugeneTiffany

It is the grammar of Spanish you should be concerned about while leaving English rotting in the gutter. Leave it in the past. It doesn't matter.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JosephKnox

Thats true! Learn to think in Spanish.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/samarbarrett

That is truly a ridiculous thing to say

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EugeneTiffany

Why? Spanish and English are two different languages and for anyone fluent in Spanish, English is the last thing on their mind.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LoriettaPurpura

i agree :D :D

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ripcurlgirl
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¡Gracias Eugene!

After plodding through gratuitous posts expressing the learners' pedantry based on the grammatical intricacies of the English language, I finally find someone who articulates my thoughts exactly (in both your posts above).

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EugeneTiffany

¡Gracias, amiga!. I have to admit, it is hard for me understand just how so many can't let English go and begin focusing on learning Spanish.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ripcurlgirl
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Thank you for responding - I wasn't sure if you were still active. At least I know there is one intelligent person available in these sentence forums.
¡Hasta luego!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BonHun
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wow hows the self righteousness here? people learn languages in different ways. didnt realise it was a crime (worthy of being called unintelligent) to try and find an English equivalent to a spanish term/phrase/grammatical particle in order to understand it better. get off your high horses.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SashaHessler

In that case, why wasn't "They don't have that many." accepted?? (・~・)ノ

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NaveelKabi1

Because "many" is used for things that can be counted (such as animals, marshmellows in your hot chocolate, etc.), and much is used for things that can't be counted (how much hot chocolate you have because you can't count that, for example).

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SashaHessler

Oh, I get it. Thanks

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nokkenbuer

Although it appears to be accepted, I would argue that it should not. "Tanto" means "so much", as in commenting on the quantity of something. "That much" is often used as more of a direct comparison. As far as I know, "tanto" never means "that much" specifically. The translation is always given as "so much".

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/andres57sc
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Incorrect. "Tanto", often means direct comparison like "that much".

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ChynaBee1

Thanks for making it easier to understand

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MonNomEstTherese

I rarely hear Americans say 'they don't have "so" much.' Mostly, 'they don't have much' or 'that much.'

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexandreM715487

That much is a specific amount that's why ;)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pelexavier

make it like this. :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ReyisaMagee

Maybe.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/eshaan96

Tanto vs mucho?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/francescofel

Mucho means 'much' or 'a lot', tanto means 'so much'

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DogacanCol

What is the difference between 'tan' and 'tanto'?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlwynM
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In general use, "tan" translates as "so" and "tanto" as "so much".

There are other meanings, see the other posts in this discussion.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EugeneTiffany

One can also look in one's learned Words list and find the words by doing a search on the page in one's browser, then clicking on the found word. If there is a down arrow showing, one can click on that, too, for more translations. Some words have a huge number.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BartMilner

Yes. Also a good way of checking which words have been forgotten... although the strength bars can be a bit random, and some words (eg "araña", at least in my case) seem to get left out. It would also be very nice if they gave the Words list in English as well as Spanish, at least for the words used in the Translations. Like Mr Tiffany I'm a big fan of Quizlet, where the flashcards are voiced, the DL version is quite weak by comparison.

Also, although I do appreciate that DL is a great free resource, and it seems ungracious to ask for more, but I do wish they gave the infinitive of verbs - I've been looking them up because, since most Spanish verbs are regular, the infinitive is a really strong guide to how they are conjugated.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EugeneTiffany

Araña is not on the Words list?

That is odd.

Must have gotten stepped on.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BartMilner

:-) I've been meaning to run a check a see if other words have fallen out, and then post an issue. I think I remember that araña was on there in the early lessons, so DL's algorithm may need a tweak... Has anybody had any experience of volunteering to help? eg adding more examples to the Words list details. Feel I ought to give something back rather than just asking for more...

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EugeneTiffany

Well, I am astonished that there would be any lacking words in the Words list..

Not good.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/miguel629564

Have i seen you before?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jbtaylor

When does "tanto" mean "both"? That's one of the hints for the word.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

los vimos tanto tu como yo = both you and I saw it. tanto is used many ways, 'both' is a bit rare compared to all the other meanings and uses

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lrtward
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Right you are, rspreng. The format is "Tanto... como ..." to mean both. It helps me to think of it as meaning "as much as" instead of "both". It doesn't make sense if you translate it word for word into English this way, but it does get you into the Spanish mindset pretty well. Tanto hombres como mujeres quieren un buen sueldo. Men want a good salary as much as women (do). Or, of course, Both men and women want a good salary.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cathykirby

Gracias, a ustedes ambos, Lrtward y rspreng! Please correct me! :) Me quiero ustedes ejemplos demasiado! I have a three year old. She doesn't care when she makes a mistake. I'm taking her example here and just using the language. Gracias de nuevo. :D

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EugeneTiffany

Developing a Spanish mind set, that is the key to getting a handle on the language! That is what I am trying to do, but it is hard. A real challenge. And all this concern about correct English altogether prevents a Spanish mind set from being gained. It's self defeating.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ttbaby9
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Do you have a strategy to thinking with a Spanish mindset? Or is it self-done?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EugeneTiffany

Good question. I would say the best way to gain the ability to be thinking with a Spanish mind set occurs through utter familiarity with the language and to the point one no longer has to think about it.

Consider how much thought and special attention it took to drive a car at the early most days of doing so, especially if the car had a manual transmission. Or even a riding a bicycle requiered a lot of one's attention for a time. But ultimately, it all became automatic and one no longer had to think about everything one did.

One can gain a Spanish "mind set" not by memorizing anything, but by becoming utterly familiar with the language through massive exposure.

It is a good idea to repeat the lessons many many times. This can serve as substitute for being within a Spanish speaking country where one's day is filled with input in conderation of the language for hearring it and seeing it everywhere.

While not the same, Duolingo can provide for substancial exposure. The way it is set up allows for exposure to everything about it.

Also home movies being watched with Spanish language and subtitles switched on can help too. But one has to be well along in ones studies to get much out of that. What one can do is have the English sound on and the Spanish subtitles on, and vice versa. Pick out family movies with a lot of ordinary dialog. That would provide for the most useful type of sentences being said. SiFi, war and crime, movies would not be of great benefit.

Again, gaining familiarity with the language is the key to fluency,as well as a Spanish mind set, and not memorization. Memorization requires thinking, and having to think is what we need to get beyond having to do.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EugeneTiffany

That's sounds like a winner.

Where do you get duel text books?

And are they available in varying levels of difficulty?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ChrisWhatever

I also find that reading books with dual texts (one page Spanish and the opposite page English) is a great help.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mitaine56

jbtaylor, it's only a choice of answers

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dennis4King

I replied "They do not have enough", and I was marked wrong. What is the difference?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EugeneTiffany

Well, we know they don't have much but we don't know if they are actually impoverished and in need.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/homembom

Why "They haven't much" is wrong?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PatriciaJH
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Should be right; try reporting it with the "report a problem" button. So far, though, the German team seems WAY more responsive to reports than the Spanish team. Or else they both make changes, but only the German team sends emails.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jbtaylor

I've gotten several emails about translations I've submitted in Spanish lessons being accepted. I would assume English-->Spanish is likely the most popular program. They probably have a huge backlog of submitted corrections.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EugeneTiffany

Prolly. I have submited a number of things, a bunch even today.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bayda.asbridge

I had the same problem. Many/ much...i think both should be accepted.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/elcrichlo

One strategy I find helpful for familiarity is to label everything around me with the Spanish translation (including article for gender). My front door is labeled "la puerta", my kitchen faucet is labeled "la llave", etc. You see the label every time you look at the object and your brain starts to associate that word or phrase with that object on its own.

In reply to the comments about books: I just found a great app called Beelinguapp. It reads you children's stories in Spanish and offers the written text in Spanish and English. Children's stories are a great way to become familiar without being overwhelmed.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LoriettaPurpura

they probably don't have much money or food i feel so bad for them :-(

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/polyglotpixieme

Why not: They do not have a lot?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/theRealRabbit

What not "They don't have too much"

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WandaJNevills

The English translation is awkward. We wouldn't say that unless comparing it to something else that there is really a lot or too much of vs not having nearly as much, like "we have way too much cake for 2 people, SO MUCH cake! But they do not have so much cake. They have a very small pieceof cake." Is this really how it should translate? Is it really something that would even generally be stated in this way in Spanish? Or should it simply translate to "they do not have very much cake"?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mammad99
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They do not have so much / they do not have that much have both been accepted in the past. Just by curiosity this time I responded "they do not have this much" but it was not accepted. How do you say that in Spanish? Thanks.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mammad99
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THere were no replies after a month. I researched it and now need a verification from someone. Is this a correct translation for "they do not have this much" = ellos no tienen este mucho ?? or is it incorrect / awkward. Thanks

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OlegSkalsky
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"They haven't so much" incorrect, "They haven't got much" right. I don't understand why need "got" instead "so"

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TracyLarrabee

Why is "They don't have the same" wrong?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mitaine56

because these 2 words don't mean the same.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rumnraisin
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My guess would be because you didn't specify that "the same" applied to an amount, and so your answer is ambiguous ( - you mean "the same amount" but it could very easily be understood as "the same thing"). If you think it should be accepted anyway, report it to the course team as an alternative translation.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jeanet_jeanet

why not tantos?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Johngt44
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Plural implies many.... Tanto pan = so much bread: tantos libros = so many books

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Romulo.Np
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''They haven't so much.''

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ari-150

Are tanto and mucho interchangeable?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ttbaby9
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No

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/zoegirl03

I said they do not have as much and i got it right

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cihan129047

they have not as much" also work here

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/miguel629564

Cool!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KLTah
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can this be used in the meaning of financial situation. they don't have much to live on.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hdaniell1

Why not to much?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ttbaby9
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Don't worry about literal translation. I'm going to infer that English is your first language so you should well understand the given translation. It's best to learn now that Spanish and English have two different grammatical systems and it's mandatory for you to follow them in order to learn and understand the language fluently.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/joe176918

They do not have as much... wrong que paso?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/joe176918

They do not have as much... wrong.... que paso?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/theRealRabbit

What not "They don't have too much"

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/miguel629564

I did "They don't have as much," and it worked! XD LOL

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ttbaby9
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That's probably because it's correct...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MikeB570980

"They dont have too many" Not accepted

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hankeyster

The first part of your answer is correct, but tanto does not mean too many. Tanto is as much, or that much, or so much. It is a comparative: Thing is not AS MUCH as other thing. Too many is definitely not a comparative, and for too many, you'd say demasiados.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/clairecho22

What's the difference between tiene and tienen?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kathydeverhart

It's part of the verb conjugation. The difference is the number of people being talked about. Tiene is the 3rd person singular (or 2nd formal) (he, she, it, (or formal you = Ud.) whereas tienen is used for 3rd person plural (or 2nd formal) ie they or you all.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/clairecho22

Thank you

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kathydeverhart

Glad to help.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vera960309

Of what? I don't understand this sentence

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Slive
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Why not "They don't have so many" ?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Slive
Slive
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I think I found myself the answer: So many = tantos; So much = tanto.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SCOTTVELEZ

Is "tanto" the correct word here? Couldn't you just use "mucho"?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nilanjana_25

What is the difference between "mucho" and "tanto"?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/andyarteaga

mucho= if you can count it... tanto= if you dont count it... example.. tengo mucho dinero= if you can count the money... tengo mucho trabajo = if you dont count it.... el tiene tanto dinero que puede viajar= in this case we can`t count the money.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hannahsox
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How many words for 'much' are there gonna be???

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LoueyMarie

I'd say; when learning sentences and translations, it depends on how you say it, or it depends on the situations, because(sometimes); there's lot of words that has the same spelling but different meanings or difinitions. .. i have to think after the language i'm speaking/using right at that moment of time.(e.g when you're multi-lingual)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Benjamin855624

They do not have too much?

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mammad99
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I think that would be Ellos no tienen demasiado

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Amir.pro
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How about too much?

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rth0ma5
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Would "Ellos no tienen mucho" mean the same thing?

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Tim91292

Niether do i lol

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/b-reasonable

The pull down on tanto says it can mean " so much" or "so long" I chose the latter and you counted it wrong. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/co5TbUPR

The wording of this sentence (and a lot of Duolingo sentences) is really off and not naturally sounding (as it would be in English).

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NRaisbeck

Lomismo, mi amigos.

6 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vin273616

Can you translate it another way?

6 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zak869317

Sup

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zak869317

T alk tO Me BaBY AyYyAyaYA k ee P oN dancInG KeeP bY tHe oCeAn aHh

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/M0RM0N

☺️

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/thesnowmaster

I put they don't have this much and i got it wrong

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JeffersonB11365

Es muy triste.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/theRealRabbit

What not "They don't have too much"

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kaz515006

What about: they don't have too much?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/littlemo

All I can think of when they say "tanto" is Tonto and the Lone Ranger :) (Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels of course) :P

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LalaHuff

Why is they do not have many not accepted?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bradenz2007

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1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Wolf_Commander

relle

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Formosast

Translation is not idiomatic., but I am learning Spanish, not English

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jeri40061

I can not go to the verbs until l have completed open. What does this and how can i start these more difficult verbs? Jeri

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Travonee

Conjunctions should really be used here in Duolingo.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AshleyBake639321

I forgot the word "so."

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/learner918273645

Pero estamos alegre.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/amrind

Good question. I would say the best way to gain the ability to be thinking with a Spanish mind set occurs through utter familiarity with the language and to the point one no longer has to think about it.

Consider how much thought and special attention it took to drive a car at the early most days of doing so, especially if the car had a manual transmission. Or even a riding a bicycle requiered a lot of one's attention for a time. But ultimately, it all became automatic and one no longer had to think about everything one did.

One can gain a Spanish "mind set" not by memorizing anything, but by becoming utterly familiar with the language through massive exposure.

It is a good idea to repeat the lessons many many times. This can serve as substitute for being within a Spanish speaking country where one's day is filled with input in conderation of the language for hearring it and seeing it everywhere.

While not the same, Duolingo can provide for substancial exposure. The way it is set up allows for exposure to everything about it.

Also home movies being watched with Spanish language and subtitles switched on can help too. But one has to be well along in ones studies to get much out of that. What one can do is have the English sound on and the Spanish subtitles on, and vice versa. Pick out family movies with a lot of ordinary dialog. That would provide for the most useful type of sentences being said. SiFi, war and crime, movies would not be of great benefit.

Again, gaining familiarity with the language is the key to fluency,as well as a Spanish mind set, and not memorization. Memorization requires thinking, and having to think is what we need to get beyond having to do.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bradenz2007

tyyyyyyyr

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/seebay22

Would "they dont have long" be correct?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kayllama

I almost wrote "They don't have many tomatoes." Before I read the drop-down text....

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RobChristiansen

The indian (tonto) does not have ‘so much’

2 years ago